There is another poll out today showing Obama is now trailing McCain. No question Obama's slippin. Could McCain have gotten to him five months ago?

Its still a long way to November, and it may be McCain has peaked too soon.

Keep in mind neither man has crossed the 50% mark.

Two faced piece of shit.

Lieberman to Speak at GOP Convention
By Perry Bacon Jr.

Sen. Joe Lieberman, completing a dramatic political transformation over the last eight years, is now scheduled to speak at the Republican National Convention next month, according to GOP sources.

The Connecticut senator, who calls himself an "independent Democrat" and attends some Democratic meetings on Capitol Hill, has become one of the McCain's closet allies, campaigning with him everywhere and rumored to be on his list of potential running mates. Lieberman is now on a trip to Georgia with Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, another close McCain ally. The pair is visiting the war-torn state in their capacities as members of the Senate Armed Services Committee, while also effectively acting as McCain's emissaries there.

Lieberman has at times sharply criticized Sen. Barack Obama, particularly on his opposition to the Iraq war, which Lieberman forcefully backed.

Lieberman, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee in 2000 and a White House candidate for the presidency himself four years later, seems unlikely to give the kind of fiery speech that then-Sen. Zell Miller (D-Ga.) offered against then Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry at the 2004 GOP convention in New York. Lieberman's speeches introducing McCain tend to focus on the Arizona senator's work on bipartisan compromises in the Senate and their shared views on Iraq.

Lieberman joins a list of speakers at the convention that already includes President Bush, Vice President Cheney and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Good points DT. Few people realize that the campaigns are not looking mostly at the overall numbers, but at the numbers by state and within certain categories of potential voters such as race/ethnicity, and religious affiliation. Another thing. Those who report poll numbers usually don't tell us if the poll was of likely voters or of registered voters.

Goombah,

I know who she is. I have seen her on many political shows. She was an avid Hillary supporter. She always seemed to have a smile on her face. Too bad.She was only 58.


TIS

Several networks are reporting that she has died.

Yea, I guess she has died. Earlier today I think it was CNN that reported she died, only later to find she hadn't actually died, but was on life support and in very critical condition. Then CNN corrected their story.

At any rate, how quickly you can check out!!


TIS

RIP Tubb-Jones

Obama VP pick

Biden is a good man. Excellent choice for Obama. The only question now is if the Clinton lemmings will fall in line.

Anybody who calls Rudy Guiliani to the carpet for using 9/11 as a political crutch is alright in my book. During the debates, Biden said "Rudy Giuliani. There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There's nothing else!"

Here is Newsweek's account of what went into the selection process. Of particular note is why Clinton was not selected.

I know a lot of Democrats considered the Obama/Clinton ticket the "Dream Ticket", and unbeatable. The fact of the matter is, putting Hillary on the ticket would have been the one thing that would have united the unhappy Republicans on the fence, and rallied them behind McCain. That's the last thing Obama needs in a so far close race. I still think Obama is going to win fairly easily, but putting Hillary on the ticket was very risky. Biden is the safest choice, which is the smart move when you're still the favorite to win.

I think it's a good , safe pick that will counter the experience issue to some extent. He didn't last long in the primaries though.

It goes to show that time seems to heal a lot of things. 20 years ago Biden had to drop out of the presidential race due to an embarrassing set of circumstances, overshadowed only by Gary Hart. The comedians had a lot of fun with him, and I thought his national aspirations were sunk completely.

McCain's campaign, apparently anticipating the Biden pick, has tv ads ready with video clips of Biden saying Obama is not ready to be president. They'll run in key battleground states.

Although I think, at this point anyway, it'll be very close, I agree with you JL. I think the Republians were salivating at the thought of HRC on the ticket. Biden was alway my choice. He is long winded, but he is a plus for Obama IMHO. Plus, I'd bet anything if he was asked, he'd know how many houses he owns.

Btw. I signed up for that famous text mail, and never got it. What a fun idea that was. The media was going crazy following all of the "possibles" all day long.


TIS

Kly,

I heard last night that the Republicans had ads ready for all of the possible candidates. I'm guessing the Dems are putting together theirs as well. Ahhhhh Politics.

TIS

Not only that, but I'm sure we'll also get to see those clips of Biden saying that McCain WOULD make a good President, and that he (Biden) would be happy to serve with a President McCain.



Apple

Much as I hated to, I had to agree with that. I liked and still like Rudy, think he was a terrific Mayor and showed great leadership on and after 9/11. However, had it not been for 9/11 and the national fame it catipulted him into... Guliani would never have even been considered as a Presidential candidate. I was sorry he let people talk him into running at all.

I tried to tell that to many of my friends (including some here on the BB) who seemed to feel otherwise back in the day!!

psst...but we haven heard the last of Rudy. Besides delivering the Keynote Speech at the RNC...watch him be elected Governor of NY in 2010

Apple

I agree, Lou. As high as I've been on Obama, if the Clinton Pig's name ended up on the ticket, I honestly don't think that I could've voted for him. I've come to hate her that fucking much. I'm very relieved right now.

I agree with Apple about Rudy. As an almost 49 year resident of New York City, take it from me, he was the guy you wanted as Mayor after the Dinkins debacle (the absolute WORST mayor of my lifetime). BUT, Rudy had no business running for President. Touting himself as America's Mayor for the last seven years, constantly taking credit for the Post 9/11 revival of the City, and his overall boorish personality, made him a poor candidate. He wouldn't have even carried New York.

And I agree with TIS; I think it will be VERY close. But Biden gives him his best chance.

It was the smart move.

I didn't get a text message.

Clearly Obama's message isn't reaching out to Americans across party lines. Maybe he needs a better network.

I know I'll probably get jumped on here BUT I heard that if she didn't get VP pick that Hillary may run for NY Governor (or was it Mayor?) Don't hit me!!!

Btw, I thought of a cute campaign bumper sticker.

"Get Your O-Jo Working. Hu????? Hu??? Ok, I won't quit my day job.

DJ, you know everything about these things. Why do you think I didn't get my text? Too many sent at one time. Could it be like "snail" mail and maybe I'll get
it tomorrow?

TIS

Agreed.

With Rudy's "brand," how could he not beat a blind guy, who fell ass backwards into the job, who has admitted to more sexual conquests this side of Bill Clinton?

You love her so much, get her to run against Ah-nold out in La-La Land.

IMO, not nearly as damaging as the current and forthcoming ads of McCain paling around, praising, and endorsing Bush.

We'll see, 'Just Lou'...we'll see.

I just saw the ad. It's fairly effective, but nothing more. It shows Biden commenting on Obama's readiness, but it clearly shows it during a Primary Debate which takes away from it's impact. Obama's inexperience is also not exactly breaking news. It also shows his comment about "serving with McCain", but the exact quote is "I'd be honored to run with or against John McCain". Again, not much of an impact to me. Biden and McCain are known good friends

It's not your phone, it's clearly a warning sign not to vote for Obama! Just think, what if that was your allowance from the weekly collective or your delivery of socialized medicine! Where would we be then?

Possibly. But at the moment, we're looking at the ad only.

When you combine that, with whoever McCain's choice of running mate is, along whatever ads are to come (from both sides), AND with the Fall debates on top of that, then one party might be in a bit of a pickle as Election Day draws near.

Of course...I don't dare contemplate which party that may be.

'Nuff said.

Apple

You got to hand it to McCain, being prepared to get rolling with the anti-Obama/Biden ads from ther get go.

There are reports that he's so good at planning ahead, that he'll finish his concession speech by Labor Day.

Oh, this is beautiful.

Ha ha ha ha!!

That's hilarious!!


TIS