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Re: GF locations
[Re: Turnbull]
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08/20/08 01:31 AM
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J Geoff
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I don't know 100% on Guggenheim, though... it's been challenged a few times, and recently I got yet another challenge which also seemed convincing -- I'd have to dig it out of my email. Will try to do that soon...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: GF locations
[Re: J Geoff]
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08/20/08 08:08 AM
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stracci
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I thought I remember hearing that the Woltz mansion scene was somewhere out west - that's why the scene with Woltz and Hagen walking by the pool features body doubles - there was not enough money in budget to fly them out for one scene.
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Re: GF locations
[Re: stracci]
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08/20/08 08:43 AM
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I thought I remember hearing that the Woltz mansion scene was somewhere out west - that's why the scene with Woltz and Hagen walking by the pool features body doubles - there was not enough money in budget to fly them out for one scene. I don't have Lebo handy, but if memory serves the interiors and exteriors were different places. The exteriors were shot out west and the interiors supposedly at the Guggenheim on L.I.
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Re: GF locations
[Re: The Last Woltz]
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08/20/08 12:32 PM
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J Geoff
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Here's the email I got corroborating the exteriors of Woltz' mansion being the Hearst/Davies estate: Just a quick note that as I have read your list of filming locations, and one of the most famous scene locations in the movie is incorrectly identified for quite some time now. I can assure you that the estate that is the location for the exterior shots of the Woltz Estate is NOT Harold Lloyd's Green Acres OR the Guggenhiem Estate in the East. It is the Marion Davies Estate on Coldwater Canyon Drive in Beverly Hills. I walked by it every other day with my dog for 10 years! Anyone who has lived in that area, as I have, knows that property. (And also Harold Lloyd's which was just down the street from me). And for further verification it is featured, in full color, in the coffee table book "Estates of Beverly Hills" for anyone to see. It was recently put up for sale for $165 Million Dollars and was featured in quite a few magazines.
I hope this puts to bed the exterior Woltz location issue. Here are some photos. This is the same estate seen in this thread, so that can be put to bed (tho it already was, without the horse's head), ...though I need to fix it on the GF Site. I assume the interiors were indeed shot at the Guggenheim estate.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: GF locations
[Re: J Geoff]
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08/20/08 12:45 PM
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Here's what Lebo wrote in "The Godfather Legacy" (second edition, p. 137): "The Godfather relocation scouts had obtained use of one of the most glamorous residences in teh country, the Guggenheim family estate on Long Island Sound, which had been donated to the state of New York. "Scenes filmed at the Guggenheim estate included a walking tour of the grounds with Hagen and Woltz[emphasis added], a visit to the stable to meet the still living horse Khartoum, conbersations over dinner, and the discovery of the head." He makes no mention of the Davies estate. Could Harlan be wrong?
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: GF locations
[Re: Turnbull]
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08/20/08 12:47 PM
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J Geoff
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Could Harlan be wrong? Say it isn't so! A comparison of the landscaping/building is in order... I don't have time right now, though.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: GF locations
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/20/08 02:33 PM
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Santino Brasi
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Hmmm, they mush have renovated it, the pool looks a lot wider in the first picture, also, Watching GF on Bravo has to be an Infamnia
He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: GF locations
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08/20/08 02:37 PM
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Hmmm, they mush have renovated it, the pool looks a lot wider in the first picture, also, Watching GF on Bravo has to be and Infamnia The pool is definitely wider, and the buildings on the sides have been expanded too. But, if you look at the fine details such as window and door locations, and even the 2 palm trees located behind the main building in the exact location in both photos, IMO it is clearly the same estate.
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Re: GF locations
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/20/08 02:39 PM
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I'm fine. Thanks for asking. :)How are you? I am doing good, I just started High School on monday
He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: GF locations
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/20/08 02:45 PM
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Santino Brasi
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wow, the weird thing is, I went on monday, then TS Fay hit and schools have been closed since, they are even closed tommorow
He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: GF locations
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/20/08 02:49 PM
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Santino Brasi
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Sonny: Hey, listen, I want somebody good -- and I mean very good -- to plant that gun. I don't want my brother coming out of that toilet with just his duck in his hands, alright?
He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: GF locations
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/20/08 02:59 PM
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Santino Brasi
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Where'd ya get that Beauty scar tough guy... Eatin Pineapple?
How de fock am I gonna get a scar like dis eatin pineapple?
He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: GF locations
[Re: J Geoff]
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08/23/08 01:40 PM
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J Geoff
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Here's another email I just got, in reference to where Sonny was shot... As far as the exact location of he scene in which Sonny is gunned down at the tool booths, I have it for you. My friend and I carefully studied the scene after hearing a rumor that it was filmed in proximity to Nassau Community College on Long Island. I found the EXACT location yesterday on my bicycle. I will supply you with some photos in the future. The scene was shot on an abandoned runway used at Mitchel Field Air Corps base from WWII. It is still there to this day, but presently used as the Nassau County Police's vehicle training course. The radio tower is in the rear of the shot, as well as the water tower in the front of the shot. It also appears as if there are remains of some metal anchors used from the tool booths (unknown). here is the link to the Google aerial mapGarrett M., Long Island, NY
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: GF locations
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/23/08 02:31 PM
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Close. They actually use "stick". I like your version better. Frankie also tells Michael, "Clemenza promised them ooshcots." Bonasera tells Vito: "And those two punks, they smiled at me."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: GF locations
[Re: Turnbull]
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08/23/08 04:24 PM
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Close. They actually use "stick". I like your version better. Frankie also tells Michael, "Clemenza promised them ooshcots." Bonasera tells Vito: "And those two punks, they smiled at me." TB, I can't quite make out what Frankie is saying which you are phonetically spelling as oosh. I think he may be mispronouncing a word because he's basically saying he promised them D*ck or s**t (cazzo). Can you make out that oosh any better or anyone else on the Board have better ears than me?
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