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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Patrick]
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08/28/08 07:35 PM
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This speech tonight is going to be historical. Any of you older guys remember watching JFK at the LA Coliseum? I bet that was pretty cool to watch. Welcome back, Patrick. JFK was arguably one of the best orators of the 20th century and his speech at the convention was rousing.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: AppleOnYa]
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08/28/08 08:20 PM
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I thought Michelle Obama was extremely articulate last night.
Now who is being racist?  Seriously, for some reason that reminds me of the Chappelle show with the colored milkman skit. "He's such a fine athlete and so well spoken!" Go for it, Double-J!! Next thing you know, they'll be commenting on how 'clean' she looked. Honestly, I'm not sure why anyone would even feel compelled to point out how 'articulate' Michelle Obama was on Monday night. She's always been articulate, and her views have been quite clear for these past many months. I hear Michy's actually in line to be the new mascot for Mrs. Butterworth and has a deal in the works as the next spokeswoman for Aunt Jemima... Zing! 
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/28/08 08:48 PM
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What happens to Obama's speech if the Jets game goes over?? He tries an onside kick.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/28/08 09:07 PM
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On CBS here in NY, the Jets game is on until 10:00, when they'll air Obama's speech live. What happens if the game runs over? Will it be a Heidi moment?? I suspect the network would stay with the game. You can watch the speech on many other networks... MSNBC is carrying the whole coverage now.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/28/08 09:58 PM
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I say no chance they'd stay with a pre-season football game, over Obama's speech. The Giants are on NBC right now too, and I'm sure there's no chance they stay with it too. These games are nothing more than "practice". The Browns/Bears game is on the My Network so it's still on.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: SC]
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08/28/08 11:05 PM
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He is an excellent speaker, no doubt. However, he also spoke of hope. The last election was one of fear. This truly was a speech about hope, about what is possible in the future. He spoke of patriotism, of love for this country, for his family, and his plan to fix what he sees broken.
And yes, SC, when he said that in 10 years, we will end our dependence on foreign oil, it was very reminiscent of JFK's pledge that we would have a man on the moon by the end of the decade.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/28/08 11:09 PM
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And yes, SC, when he said that in 10 years, we will end our dependence on foreign oil, it was very reminiscent of JFK's pledge that we would have a man on the moon by the end of the decade. If I'm not mistaken, that pledge was from JFK's inaugural address. Hopefully we'll be hearing more from Obama like this in January.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: SC]
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08/28/08 11:12 PM
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Wow.... a wonderful speech!
Very reminiscient of JFK - a young man speaking of our country's future and it's possibilities; of our responsibilities.
He did what he had to. He spoke of Bush's failures, he spoke of his programs and policies he wants, he spoke well and forcefully.
He threw down the gauntlet and I don't think the Republicans can pick it up. Hi SC and welcome back!  I agree with everything you said. Very reminiscent of JFK. Awesome speech.!!! All I can say is "wow"!!! He seemed to cover everything. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/28/08 11:40 PM
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Wouldn't that be wonderful?? To be hopeful instead of our leaders trying to keep us afraid??? You said a mouthful, SB, and once again hit the nail on the head. Beautiful speech. Stirring message (especially in the context of the 45th anniversary of the MLK speech). And a beautiful family. My favorite line of the convention was Hillary Clinton's remark that it was appropriate that the Republican Convention be held in the Twin Cities because you can't tell Bush and McCain apart.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/28/08 11:41 PM
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I saw Senator McCain's ad, congratulating Senator Obama on making history tonight. Very classy of him, I must say. It's set to run just this one night.
Hey, TIS. I thought you might be watching tonight! Speaking of McCain, word non-leaked leaked that Governor Pawlenty of Minnesota may be McCain's VP. Poor McCain, he sought to steal Obama's thunder by leaking this VP news tonight, and instead its just a fart. Really, every strongly-pimped McCain VP candidate is toxic in some way, and while Pawlenty aint Chernobyl-lethal like Libermann and Romney would be, Pawlenty is possibly the biggest running mate-dud since Dan Quayle.* Also, anyone really think Minnesota will actually go GOP this November? I mean to put it another way, how much money would you put on that? *=Really, its amazing how in spite of that fuck-up of a pick, Bush Sr.'s campaign was strong and powerful enough to win in a landslide in spite of Quayle.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: SC]
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08/28/08 11:44 PM
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Thanks, TIS!
I'm sure you noticed some of the similarities to JFK's style. One line that comes to mind that reminded me of JFK was Obama saying, "change doesn't come FROM Washington, change goes TO Washington".
Very JFKish.
I thought that was his best line as it succinctly defined his message that his campaign wasn't about him, but about all of us. He looked like a king in command. I look forward to the Republican Convention and the debates. These campaigns will be spirirted...as they should be.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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08/28/08 11:46 PM
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But Ronnie, wtf do the ultra conservatives want? I mean, you just can't put Pat Robertson on the ticket.  It's all moot anyway. Unless racism rears its ugly head in this election (And I know, I know. It might), Obama wins in a landslide. I'll tell you one thing. If the Dems lose this year, with the stars all aligned, we may as well fold up the party.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Don Cardi]
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08/28/08 11:50 PM
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....had to catch up with a few eps of Gene Simmons Family Jewels -- lol
Ok, sorry to take this topic off track, but Geoff, how great is that show?  I am NOT a fan of reality tv whatsoever, but I really enjoy his show. He really is a very smart man, and is absolutely brilliant when it comes to promotions and marketing. Did you happen to catch the roast that they did for him? Hilarious! I'm not a regular watcher, but do catch parts of an episode every now & then. It's certainly better than the phony-baloney 'Hogan Knows Best' (in which Hulk Hogan appears to be the ONLY intelligent member of the family). George Foreman's show is a bit staged and stiff as well. Family Jewels: Used to not like they way a member (or two) of his family did commentary while Gene sat there saying nothing...but then realized that's part of the schtick. As family reality shows go (and most of them suck), it's really not that bad. Worth saying though, that NONE of these even comes close to 'The Osbornes', which was the daddy of ALL family shows. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: klydon1]
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08/28/08 11:52 PM
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I saw Senator McCain's ad, congratulating Senator Obama on making history tonight. Very classy of him, I must say. It's set to run just this one night.
Hey, TIS. I thought you might be watching tonight! Speaking of McCain, word non-leaked leaked that Governor Pawlenty of Minnesota may be McCain's VP. Then Obama can modify one of his campaign slogans about McCain to "More of the same...and Pawlenty more." (That's a groan. But it's good, and memorable.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: SC]
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08/28/08 11:57 PM
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.... One line that comes to mind that reminded me of JFK was Obama saying, "change doesn't come FROM Washington, change goes TO Washington". Very JFKish. True. Only difference is that when JFK said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your COUNTRY!"...to the best of my knowledge he hadn't stolen it from another guy's speech and molded it into his own words so that he could make people think he was just like that other guy whose speech he just stole from. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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