I think they have AIG insurance, actually...

How is it racist to refer to someone as articulate or not articulate?? It describes their public speaking skills. Some people have it and some don't. Michelle Obama does. What does that have to do with race?

I must say, of all the ridiculous ways you've chosen to drag things on ad nauseam, this one has to be the most ridiculous.

I was half-joking, in case you couldn't tell by the Chappelle comment.

Nonetheless, my point was merely that people who tend to be closet racists often seem to point out things like how "articulate" a black person is as a sort of back-handed complement (again, leading into the second part of my post).

Ad Nauseam...sounds like a side-effect from taking a pill.

And you're actually right, it is a back-handed slap.

Remember Barbara Bush's remark, upon hearing of the New Orleans refugees after Katrina when they were sent to the Astrodome for temporary shelter: "It's better housing than they've ever had."

Eh?

Well, to be fair, those FEMA cubbies sure did look cozy...

Maybe so if those trailers had ever been deployed instead of months after the fact.

Speaking of which, you agree DJ that Lieberman, if McCain picks him as his VP, would backfire?

I don't know, the Astrodome seemed pretty comfy to me...

Hmm, as long as McCain picks someone with a pulse as his VP, I'll be content.

Even if he's pro-choice?

My My what has happened to the Conservative movement? Has Bush really fucked it up that badly?

My saying that Michelle Obama was articulate is comparable to Barbara Bush's Astrodome comment?? OK, I take back what I said earlier. THAT is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

If I had said that Ted Kennedy was extremely articulate that same night (which he was, because he's an excellent public speaker), what would that remark be considered??

It was an observation. She spoke at the convention. She spoke well.

And she did.

Go for it, Double-J!! Next thing you know, they'll be commenting on how 'clean' she looked. Honestly, I'm not sure why anyone would even feel compelled to point out how 'articulate' Michelle Obama was on Monday night. She's always been articulate, and her views have been quite clear for these past many months.

Seriously, though...I'll admit that in the general sense it is VERY exciting to witness the historic event of the first ever Black man to be the Presidential Nominee of a major political party. It would've been equally exciting had Hillary become the first woman to do the same.

That doesn't mean I'd vote for either one of these socialist pigs. But still...history has been made and we are here to see it.

Apple

I thought Senator Joe Biden was extremely articulate tonight.

Did you know that Bush is the biggest-spending President since LBJ?

No offense, but we're being Conservative kosher here as you fancy or as a banner to fight her....

Bush, Obama, McCain, aren't they all technically "socialist pigs"?

I mean what's the difference?

Rove tried to kill Lieberman VP pick

Republican strategist Karl Rove called Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) late last week and urged him to contact Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to withdraw his name from vice presidential consideration, according to three sources familiar with the conversation.

Lieberman dismissed the request, these sources agreed.

Lieberman “laughed at the suggestion and certainly did not call [McCain] on it,” said one source familiar with the details.

“Rove called Lieberman,” recounted a second source. “Lieberman told him he would not make that call.”

Rove did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Rove, President Bush’s former top campaign adviser and arguably the most prominent political operative of the past generation, has no formal role in McCain’s campaign. But he knows much of the Arizona senator’s high command and has been offering informal advice, both over the phone and in his position as a Fox News analyst, since McCain wrapped up the GOP nomination.

His decision to wade into the vice presidential selection process could provide Democrats fresh ammunition to tie McCain to the polarizing Bush.

It is also chafing some Lieberman allies and others wary of the selection of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

“Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on,” grumbled one veteran Republican strategist.

From his perch on Fox, Rove has touted McCain’s fierce primary rival as strong vice presidential material.

“Romney is already vetted by the media, has strong executive experience both in business and in government, has an interesting story to tell with saving the U.S. Olympics, and also helps McCain deal with the economy, because he can speak to the economy with a fluency that McCain doesn’t have,” Rove said on “Fox News Sunday” in June.

The sources spoke about Rove’s involvement after Robert Novak, writing his first column since being diagnosed with brain cancer, reported Wednesday that McCain and some of his close associates would like to tap Lieberman for the number two slot but that putting an abortion-rights-supporting former Democrat on the Republican ticket was likely to be unrealistic.

The column said Lieberman had made that clear to McCain personally at the behest of a “close friend,” but a Lieberman source called that “totally and absolutely false.”

Reached by phone, Novak would say only: "I don't talk about my sources."

The maneuvering comes just days before McCain is to publicly unveil his pick Friday at a large rally in Ohio. A senior campaign official said Wednesday that McCain has settled on his ticket mate and that the person is to be notified Thursday.

Lieberman has his advocates, especially among those who believe McCain needs to make a transformative pick to help disassociate himself from Bush and the GOP, but most establishment Republicans believe tapping the Connecticut senator would blow up next week’s Republican convention in St. Paul, Minn., and create major problems for McCain and the conservative base of the party this fall.

A source close to Lieberman said: "If it's Lieberman, none of us know about it" — meaning staff, aides and friends. The source said Lieberman is currently on vacation on Long Island, N.Y.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080828/pl_politico/12922

If McCain picks Lieberman, I'll watch every minute of the GOP convention.

Just to see the riots and burning cars set ablaze by the Pro-Lifers will be worth it.

So yeah, I'm with Rove....Lieberman is a pick that won't work, but Romney is even WORSE.

Seriously, even Appleonya probably snorted at Romney's "Conservative Patron Saint" act during the Primaries.

"Yes, I was a Pro-Choice Governor until 2006, but now I'm all for the babies!"

Christ, please just stick with your movie reviews... at least there you make sense 10% of the time!

and that's 10% more credit than you gave me last time.

You're slipping old man, or shall I say....FLIP FLOP, Kerry-style!

I guess I'm a bad liar then... I knew that! Okay, so you just suck then.

OMG... they're ending Bill's speech with a lame rendition of U2's "A Beautiful Day" -- the same song I was told to use for brides preparing for their weddings! -- and no one until me realized that that was one of the most DEPRESSING songs on the planet at the time! lol After my first wedding edit, I refused to use the song... but then Billaryama used it... haha

The speech was 4 hours ago. You're a little behind.

I missed it the first time, because I assumed it would be during the primetime coverage starting at 10pm ET -- but I chimed in at like 9:50 and discovered it already happened! I couldn't help but think that Obama didn't trust him enough (who would??) to be primetime -- but at the same time I was like, why the fuck are some unknown schmucks talking (and being ignored on Fox AND CNN) during primetime when Billy Boy wasn't??

Meh. I'll watch it online. Fuck both Fox and CNN!

They wanted the network coverage to start right off the bat with the "buzz" about Clinton's speech, and go right into the highlights, instead of starting off with speculation on what he might say. Then they could go right into Biden's nomination.

I didn't watch Biden yet -- I wanted to -- but had a buddy over, and had to catch up with a few eps of Gene Simmons Family Jewels -- and Saget's roast -- first... lol

When are you going to watch Obama's? Over the weekend?

Tomorrow, live. I hope. (Despite Netflix, the Netflix Player, On-Demand, and In-Demand)

Now, THAT'S news!!!

Ok, sorry to take this topic off track, but Geoff, how great is that show? I am NOT a fan of reality tv whatsoever, but I really enjoy his show. He really is a very smart man, and is absolutely brilliant when it comes to promotions and marketing. Did you happen to catch the roast that they did for him? Hilarious!

Cardi,

I watched the rerun of Gene's roast the other day it was funny. That Lisa Lapenelli cracked me up. Fammly Jewels is a good show.

Bill hit a grand slam imho last night. I urge anyone interested in this convention and the next one to consider watching it on C-Span. You actually get to hear every speaker, and you hear them uninterrupted by the network and cable gasbags who talk over the speakers, speculate about who is going to do what next (they are cinsistently wrong), what this or that means to the American people, and on and on.
I finally folipped over to C Span and realized I don't ned these idiots telling me what to think.