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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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08/29/08 01:13 PM
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Since she is under investigation for the brother-in-law thing, maybe he can replace her if she gets indicted.  Her lack of experience, while frightening, is nothing compared to her stand on issues I find to be of huge importance: Energy, Abortion and Gun Control. And I still don't understand what he thinks she'll deliver. It can't be feminists because of her stand on abortion. Being from Idaho and Alaska, she's not going to deliver Pennsylvania, Ohio or Florida, which are critical. The only thing I can think of is her age, but that's canceled out by her inexperience.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
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08/29/08 02:10 PM
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August 29, 2008, 1:14 pm Palin Ethics Investigation By Michael Luo
DENVER—An issue for Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin that is already drawing attention in the opening moments of her debut as the Republican vice presidential pick is an ongoing state ethics probe that was launched just a few weeks ago.
An independent investigator appointed by a panel of state legislators earlier this month is looking into whether Mrs. Palin dismissed a top law enforcement official in her administration because he failed to fire a state trooper, Mike Wooten, who went through a messy divorce with Mrs. Palin’s sister.
The investigation follows on the heels of Mrs. Palin’s abrupt decision in mid-July to dismiss Walt Monegan, her Public Safety Commissioner. Mrs. Palin said she wanted to take the department in a different direction, but questions emerged after Mr. Monegan said he felt pressured to fire Mr. Wooten.
Mr. Monegan said members of Mrs. Palin’s administration, as well Mrs. Palin’s husband, Todd, and the governor herself talk to him about Mr. Wooten.
Mr. Monegan told the Anchorage Daily News that Mr. Palin showed him some of the findings of a private investigator the family had hired and accused him of variety of misdeeds, including drunk driving and child abuse.
Mr. Palin told the newspaper he feared for his wife’s safety and said that Mr. Wooten had made threats against her and her family.
As part of efforts to demonstrate she welcomed the inquiry, Mrs. Palin asked the state’s attorney general to look into the allegations as well.
Earlier this month, she released an audio recording of a top aide pressing a police lieutenant about why no action had been taken against Mr. Wooten, given the allegations against him. She also disclosed there had been more two dozen inquiries from members of her staff to the public safety department about him, but she said she only knew about some of the inquiries and had played no role in them.
Excerpts of the audio recording Mrs. Palin released showed Frank Bailey, the state’s director of boards and commissions, pushing Lt. Rodney Dial in February about Mr. Wooten.
“Todd and Sarah are scratching their heads, ‘Why on earth hasn’t this, why is this guy still representing the department?’ He’s a horrible recruiting tool, you know,” Mr. Bailey told the lieutenant.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/29/08 02:54 PM
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President Bush just gave Palin a ringing endorsement. Just what McCain needs. With friends like that, who needs enemies. I read that little Trig was just born in April and that he has Downs Syndrome. That's got to be tough.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: SC]
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08/29/08 02:59 PM
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Oh, don't try to race bait me, SC. It's not very becoming of you. No baiting going on here. You're the one who keeps making racist references in regards to the Obamas (gorillas, Aunt Jemima, etc.). The only thing becoming of you here is that it's becoming tired and quite ugly. Besides, I don't have a K-Mart near me. I do know where you could get some Depends cheap though! Racist references? Again, dare I say, I have yet to actually say anything racist about anyone... No thanks. I'll leave the wearing of sheep to you. Wearing of sheep? I prefer to count them. Incidentally, thanks for welcoming me back. 
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: klydon1]
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08/29/08 03:01 PM
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I really don't know much about her. It was kind of a surprising pick. I'm sure a lot of thought went into the selection, but wow. She is anti-abortion and will appeal to Fundamentalist Christians... I will be REALLY surprised is she appeals to women, in fact it should make it clear to all the Hillary Clinton supporters just how much McCain really disagrees with the issues they care the most about! Her husband also worked for an oil services company or at least as a supervisor. I am so tired of these politicians linked to BIG OIL. McCain hasn't had any big reported scandals, but this woman has lot's of scandals in Alaska now: transparency in oil bidding process, thinks the fix has been in, current ethics investigation into HER conduct - allegation is she tried to have her ex-BIL fired from State Police, and this has credibility. What was McCain thinking?
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it"
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Saladbar]
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08/29/08 03:20 PM
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Yes, SB, the appeal to the extreme right is the best path to election for a Republican candidate. And, yes, they're down-playing her husband's involvement in the oil industry, making it seem like he's just some blue collar guy who works for some oil thing.
She opposes gay marriage, abortion and gun control, she supports drilling in the Alaskan wildlife refuge and the death penalty, and she opposed making the polar bear an endangered species.
I do hear that she is quite dynamic. I haven't heard her speak, but I was just on the phone with someone who did, and they said that she definitely makes quite a presence.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Double-J]
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08/29/08 03:54 PM
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What was McCain thinking? That a white woman is more electable at this point in our nation's history than a black man? Not talking primaries, we're talking general election. Ewe are definitely right. Nobody can pull the wool over your eyes.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Saladbar]
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08/29/08 04:06 PM
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Yeah, well it may just be a sop to white male working class demos who don't want to vote for Obama. They can say they voted for a ticket with a woman. Makes them feel better about making a crappy choice. The choice between the two is crappy because of the loaded issues behind it, but I see nothing inherently wrong with this election. If anything, it's a true landmark considering that we have the first black candidate with the full nomination, a female VP candidate, and another female who nearly took the democratic nomination. All in all, not a bad job, America. 
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: SC]
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08/29/08 04:07 PM
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What was McCain thinking? That a white woman is more electable at this point in our nation's history than a black man? Not talking primaries, we're talking general election. Ewe are definitely right. Nobody can pull the wool over your eyes. ^ I see what you did there.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/29/08 06:00 PM
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Well, she'd be the best looking VP ever. Hey, Nixon was a VP. Ewe? I get it!
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/29/08 06:33 PM
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It's being reported that Obama's campaign is "thrilled" with the pick because now the inexperience arguments are off the table with Sarah Palin one step from the White House. Yea, try to argue that one now. God forbid if McCain is elected and something happens to him, and she's in charge we have a person that has a BA in journalism, then became a member of her <9,000-population small town's city council, then its mayor for 6 years, then governor of less than two years versus A person with a law degree from Harvard, who worked as a community organizer in Chicago's South Side before serving as its district's state senator for 7 years, then serves as US senator for 3 years. Even Fox News is "reaching" by saying Sarah Palin does have foreign policy experience "because she is right up there in Alaska right next door to Russia" This would be funny if it weren't so sad.
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it"
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: SC]
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08/29/08 06:39 PM
08/29/08 06:39 PM
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...she's totally unknown to the American public. So was Geraldine Ferraro. So was Dick Cheney. So, to a degree was Al Gore. So are MOST VP picks, unless as in recent years they've already run in the Primaries. Gov. Palin may have been 'unknown' a month ago, but she won't be for long. ...Bad choice by McCain... Guess again. See you in November 
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Double-J]
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08/29/08 06:57 PM
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...That a white woman is more electable at this point in our nation's history than a black man? Not talking primaries, we're talking general election. Double-J, my Republican compadre... Politically, we are close to soulmates, and it's always nice to have you around to help knock down the liberal hordes. But please, a word to the wise...do yourself and me (mostly yourself) a BIG favor and stop, stop, STOP the sarcastic references to race, either directly or indirectly in almost every post. It isn't funny, it isn't clever and although you are apparently not worried about your reputation around here...all it does is throw a nasty wrench in what has been (and will continue to be) an entertaining and interesting thread. Aside from that, it MAY get you suspended (again?) if you take a step too many over that invisible line. Careful. ON ANOTHER NOTE...whatever your 'Party', this is an extremely exciting, historic election cycle, one that will go in the books. Two years ago, Nancy Pelosi became the first ever female Speaker of the House. Not that I'm a fan of hers and the sooner her boney ass is out of that seat the better...but still, she broke the ceiling. Earlier this year, we knew that either a woman or a black man would be the Presidential Nominee for the Democratic Party. Another first. Now...come January 2009, our nation will have either the first African American President or the first Female Vice President. It's incredible, it's happening, and it's fantastic to be a part of it. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: AppleOnYa]
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08/29/08 07:02 PM
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GREAT BALLS OF DOODY!!! Apple made a post in a political discussion with which I agree 100%!!??!  (running to the window to see if there's a blue moon) Sarcasm aside, nicely said, Apple.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: SC]
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08/29/08 07:02 PM
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Apple, I'll answer your comments with two words - "Dan Quayle".
The Republicans are bound to follow the same fate as '92. But you're forgetting, SC...Dan Quayle and his running mate WON in 1988. True, Bush Sr. sailed into the White House largely on Reagan's coattails and thanks in part to the abysmal campaign of one Michael Dukakis...but still, it was the Bush/Quayle ticket that won. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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