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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Double-J]
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08/29/08 07:12 PM
08/29/08 07:12 PM
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What was McCain thinking? That a white woman is more electable at this point in our nation's history than a black man? Not talking primaries, we're talking general election. Speaking of history.....was Palin's hear from 2008 or 1968? Better go get me a buzzcut.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: SC]
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08/29/08 07:15 PM
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OK, no doubt they (Bush/Quayle) won in '88 riding Reagan's coattails, but IMO they lost in '92 because of Quayle... Maybe. But then that point adds no credence to your statement about a VP candidate being 'unknown' to the American Public. By 1992, Qualyle had been VP for 4 years, and was VERY well known to the public. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: AppleOnYa]
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08/29/08 07:17 PM
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OK, no doubt they (Bush/Quayle) won in '88 riding Reagan's coattails, but IMO they lost in '92 because of Quayle... Maybe. But then that point adds no credence to your statement about a VP candidate being 'unknown' to the American Public. By 1992, Qualyle had been VP for 4 years, and was VERY well known to the public. And that's why they lost. Quayle was a quack!
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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08/29/08 08:23 PM
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...Why Poppycock didn't dump Quayle, I'll never know. Loyalty. Plain & simple. It's all in Mary Matalin's book 'All's Fair - Love, War, and Running for President'...co-written with hubby James Carville about their budding romance while working for rival 1992 campaigns: "Because his staff had been treated so badly (by the Reagan Administration), Bush was very good to Quayle. He also truly liked and respected the Vice President, and took his counsel. The rest of the President's staff was not always as generous."There was talk of pulling Quayle as VP on the '92 ticket and moving to him a position in the President's Cabinet. "Whatever the scenario, an absolute prerequisite was that Quayle himself step down voluntarily.""Dan Quayle is an honorable guy. I believe if he had known empirically he was hurting Bush, and if a face-saving plan had been worked out, he would have pulled himself off the ticket. He said so that night on Larry King Live. He was never called upon to do so.Apple
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A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: AppleOnYa]
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08/29/08 08:34 PM
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you are apparently not worried about your reputation around here... You could have saved yourself some typing and left it at that. Because that sums it up nicely.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Double-J]
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08/29/08 08:51 PM
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In that case....why are you here at all??? ***** By the way...just noticed my 'Registered' date. Can't believe I've been a BB member for 7 years!!!
Happy Anniversary to ME  !!!
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A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
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08/29/08 09:10 PM
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I honestly don't believe that DJ has posted anything overtly racist. The two board's administrators disagree. One of the moderators disagrees. Some of the members have voiced disagreement. Even if I don't agree with all of his political views, I respect the kid for speaking his mind and not wavering on his opinions. Politicians (Republican OR Democrat) should have the same character. But we know they won't  . No argument there. Can we put this to rest and continue with what has otherwise been one of the best political threads in the board's history?
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: SC]
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08/29/08 10:56 PM
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OK, no doubt they (Bush/Quayle) won in '88 riding Reagan's coattails, but IMO they lost in '92 because of Quayle... Maybe. But then that point adds no credence to your statement about a VP candidate being 'unknown' to the American Public. By 1992, Qualyle had been VP for 4 years, and was VERY well known to the public. Quayle was a quack! You say potatoe . . . 
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: AppleOnYa]
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08/29/08 11:14 PM
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In that case....why are you here at all??? ***** By the way...just noticed my 'Registered' date. Can't believe I've been a BB member for 7 years!!!
Happy Anniversary to ME  !!! Happy anniversary, Apple. This is certainly an historic election, and will be particularly memorable. I thought the last two would be hard to top. McCain and his staff must see something in Palin, and I believe she will want to make a splash at the convention. She has to if the ticket is to be viable. McCain certainly can't match the excitement of Obama, and perhaps if he picked Ridge (who, I thought, would have been a very good running mate), he wouldn't have been able to break free from the "More of the Same" theme. By the way, Biden, who is sometimes called Pennsylvania's third senator, will spend some time here. Like Hillary Clinton, Biden spent a part of his childhood in Scranton and still has family there. He'll surely rely on his roots to make an impact on an area that went decisively for Hillary in the primary.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: olivant]
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08/30/08 02:19 AM
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Of course, a financial variable is the amount of money raised by the RNC. They'll just raise the price of gas to cover those expenses. Ooops, sorry, wrong thread. 
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: olivant]
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08/30/08 10:58 AM
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One thing to watch for is the fianncial impact that public campaign financing will have on McCain's ads, etc. Obama is flush with cash and will use it to unload on McCain after the Rep. convention. Of course, a financial variable is the amount of money raised by the RNC. Its funny how in 2004, Kerry did what McCain is doing this election, while Obama now is like Bush 4 years ago....and Bush swamped and emptied his entire warchest and beat Kerry in states like Iowa, and almost in Minnesota. Obama has the $$$, and he wants to win, and honestly I would have done the same thing. Sure it made him look like a dick for saying he wouldn't earlier, but again he don't wanna pull a Kerry. Then again, who would?
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: AppleOnYa]
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08/30/08 10:59 AM
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...Why Poppycock didn't dump Quayle, I'll never know. Loyalty. Plain & simple. It's all in Mary Matalin's book 'All's Fair - Love, War, and Running for President'...co-written with hubby James Carville about their budding romance while working for rival 1992 campaigns: "Because his staff had been treated so badly (by the Reagan Administration), Bush was very good to Quayle. He also truly liked and respected the Vice President, and took his counsel. The rest of the President's staff was not always as generous."There was talk of pulling Quayle as VP on the '92 ticket and moving to him a position in the President's Cabinet. "Whatever the scenario, an absolute prerequisite was that Quayle himself step down voluntarily.""Dan Quayle is an honorable guy. I believe if he had known empirically he was hurting Bush, and if a face-saving plan had been worked out, he would have pulled himself off the ticket. He said so that night on Larry King Live. He was never called upon to do so.Apple Umm, I smell a good WHAT IF column....:)
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Just Lou]
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08/30/08 05:58 PM
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Turn the GOP convention into a telethon? Gustav prompts talk of altering RNC agenda
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- As Hurricane Gustav's power increased and the storm bore down on the Gulf Coast, Republicans grappled Saturday with problems both logistical and political.
Sen. John McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, plans to meet with officials in charge of the party's convention planning in Minneapolis-St. Paul on Sunday to review the latest news on Hurricane Gustav and what their options might be and then consult with the presumptive presidential nominee to determine what changes may need to be made.
"I wouldn't call it a nightmare, but it is a very perplexing challenge," said a GOP official planning the event.
A senior McCain source said Saturday that officials are considering turning the convention into a service event, a massive telethon to raise money for the Red Cross and other agencies to help with the hurricane.
"He wants to do something service-oriented if and when the storm hits and it's as bad as its expected to be now," the McCain source said.
They are also hoping to get McCain himself to a storm-affected area as soon as possible.
McCain had suggested to a Fox News interviewer that the convention could be suspended if it seemed that a festive gathering was inappropriate in light of the destruction the storm may bring. VideoWatch as the Gulf Coast prepares for Gustav ยป
Republican Govs. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida, Haley Barbour of Mississippi and Rick Perry of Texas -- whose states that lie in the path of Gustav, named a Category 4 hurricane Saturday afternoon -- will skip the GOP convention because of the storm.
The storm has forced last-minute changes in the convention's announced schedule: If the convention -- originally scheduled to start Monday -- commences by Tuesday, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's speech will probably move to that night from Wednesday.
Other changes were being contemplated Saturday afternoon.
The hardest decisions, like whether to cancel a day or two of the four-day gathering or to or condense days, will be made at the last second, GOP officials said. But the logistics of those decisions are being discussed.
There are two scenarios under consideration for President Bush's speech, slated for Monday night. If the president is on hand to speak, his wife, Laura, will give a short speech. If he is not, the first lady will give a longer speech, and the president will speak via satellite from the White House or a location affected by the storm.
That decision will probably not be made until Sunday evening or Monday.
Officials won't discuss in detail how McCain's plans might change. They won't talk about McCain in any detail, but he is likely to go Monday or Tuesday to an aid station in an area hit by the hurricane, if it continues on as expected.
Earlier Saturday, President Bush declared a state of emergency in Mississippi, following similar declarations in Louisiana and Texas.
The president ordered federal aid to supplement state and local efforts in the areas in the forecast path of Hurricane Gustav.
Bush checked in with the four governors whose states are in Gustav's potential route.
The president pledged the full support of the federal government to those states, White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said.
Bush and his administration were heavily criticized in 2005 for not moving fast enough to send federal help to the Gulf Coast when Hurricane Katrina hit.
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