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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/29/08 11:22 AM
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I12, I understand the whole Boston-NYY thing. I wanted the Yankees to beat them this year, as I do every year. But I wouldn't be running my mouth about Boston after the way that the Yankees have dropped the ball (pun intended). Here's a team that should be doing much better. We haven't been able to hit the side of a barn this season. I agree, SB. You are a true fan of the game and of good sportsmanship in general. I like you, Irish. You're a nice and respectful young guy, but when it comes to sports, you still have some growing up to do. The idea that a Boston loss is as good as a Yankee win is ridiculous. Especially since, as Babe said, the Sox have owned the Yanks these last few years. So far the Sox, not the Yankees, are the team of this century. So just sit back, hope for some good off season moves, and hope for the best next year. 
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/29/08 10:27 PM
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I12, I understand the whole Boston-NYY thing. I wanted the Yankees to beat them this year, as I do every year. But I wouldn't be running my mouth about Boston after the way that the Yankees have dropped the ball (pun intended). Here's a team that should be doing much better. We haven't been able to hit the side of a barn this season. Like I said, I'm not too worried about Boston this year, ESPECIALLY if they lose Beckett. Tampa's got the division and Boston only has a 2 game lead over the Twins. So, they're no "lock" yet. Personally, I think it'd be funny if they missed the playoffs and a bigger story than the Yankees missing the postseason, since they won the World Series last year and all. But even if they do make the playoffs, Anaheim owns them and would probably sweep 'em.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Irishman12]
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08/30/08 02:58 AM
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Personally, I think it'd be funny if they missed the playoffs and a bigger story than the Yankees missing the postseason, since they won the World Series last year and all. I think it's funnier that the team with the biggest payroll didn't make the playoffs. The Yankees payroll is ALMOST double that of Boston's.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
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08/30/08 09:30 PM
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Personally, I think it'd be funny if they missed the playoffs and a bigger story than the Yankees missing the postseason, since they won the World Series last year and all. I think it's funnier that the team with the biggest payroll didn't make the playoffs. The Yankees payroll is ALMOST double that of Boston's. I think it's funnier that the team with the lowest payroll in the division is kicking both of our teams' asses. Incidentally, 2007 Red Sox were the most expensive World Series champion team of all time. Just saying... (Awaits responses of "2008 Yankees - Most Expensive Team To Ever Miss Playoffs...")
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Double-J]
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08/30/08 11:09 PM
08/30/08 11:09 PM
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I think it's funnier that the team with the lowest payroll in the division is kicking both of our teams' asses. It ain't funny, but it's ironically true. I won't argue against the Sox becoming something I hate... a big payroll corporate entity... I liked them a whole lot better when they were struggling (albeit with good personnel) to finally win. I've too much "history" with them to switch allegiances, but Tampa is gonna be an exciting team to watch. (Still, I'd like to see the Sox get into the Series, and win, of course).
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Irishman12]
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09/03/08 09:50 AM
09/03/08 09:50 AM
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Exactly my point. Yes, Larry Bowa's gone. He shouldn't need someone to motivate him. Jeter doesn't, Nady doesn't, Damon doesn't, etc. Larry Bowa was the guy, who I thought should have been manager if Torre had to be replaced. I agree that motivation should come from within at this level. I think the primary external source of motivation comes from teammates, particularly veterans. Guys like Paul O'Neill, Tino Martinez, Bernie Williams and Scott Brosius were no hall of famers, but they came to the park every day and played hard and played to win. Jeter, Posada and otheryounger players in the mid-90s grew up in this environment. When all your teammates show up and take BP seriously, then you take it seriously; when your teammates dive for a ball or run into a wall; then you do the same. The best I ever saw at setting the example was Pete Rose. He set the tone and work ethic of the Big Red Machine. He came to Philly and also won a championship. Mike Scmidt hit the nail on the head when he later said that Rose told him and others that the Phillie team was the most talented in the league, but couldn't be the best until they learned to be the best every inning of any game. I'm not sure if this ties into the Cano thing, but if he sees Bobby Abreu avoid the wall and play as fly into a triple or A-Rod getting thrown out at second on a hit where he didn't go full speed, complacency might pass for acceptability.
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