I would love to be able to vote for McCain, but just can't. He keeps talking about being a "Maverick", and shaking up Washington, but his record just doesn't support that. He votes along party lines and with George Bush 90% of the time. Plus his pick of Sarah Palin isn't putting "Country First". Does anyone in their right mind think she is best choice to be his VP? He picked her for one reason, to try to win an election. Obama is far from perfect, but he's about as opposite of George Bush you can get, and I'm willing to take the chance on "Change".
Right. Maverick or not, too many people are forgetting that you have this little group of people at the other end of Pennsylvania Ave. that are called collectively (I think this is right) the Congress. And I think I'm right again that it is only this group on the federal level that can pass laws and appropriate money.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
8 more weeks. Nice chart, SB. I'm sick of people saying Obama is going to tax, tax, tax. He has said over and over again. If your family is making less than $250,000 a year, you will not see a tax increase.
Double J, I notice that you tend to make disparaging remarks regarding the comments of others. You seem to believe differently than what they've posted. Perhaps you could explain WHY you feel the way you do and how you believe that Senator McCain would do differently if elected.
I'm sure there are many undecideds out there. They do say that education is the key - so please explain.
Double J, I notice that you tend to make disparaging remarks regarding the comments of others. You seem to believe differently than what they've posted. Perhaps you could explain WHY you feel the way you do and how you believe that Senator McCain would do differently if elected.
I'm sure there are many undecideds out there. They do say that education is the key - so please explain.
I just find it utterly hilarious that Patrick asserts that if Obama is elected, anyone earning under $250,000 won't see a tax increase.
I echo what SC has posted just above. It might be helpful further if posters would state what taxes they believe a candidate as president will propose for increae or decrease. Afterall, the federal government assesses an array of taxes including corporate and personal income taxes, security taxes, medicare taxes.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
You confusing me with SB again? Or are you agreeing with me that Double-J is a sheep wearer? (Careful with your answer.... you might make the "Rainman" signature).
Double J, I notice that you tend to make disparaging remarks regarding the comments of others. You seem to believe differently than what they've posted. Perhaps you could explain WHY you feel the way you do and how you believe that Senator McCain would do differently if elected.
I'm sure there are many undecideds out there. They do say that education is the key - so please explain.
I just find it utterly hilarious that Patrick asserts that if Obama is elected, anyone earning under $250,000 won't see a tax increase.
I don't even need to explain that.
I say you should, liberal.
Really, in the same week when McCain gets pissy and doesn't go on Larry "Softball" King's program, and Obama goes on THE O'REILLY FACTOR and apparently held himself well (enough to be complemented by O'Reilly as being "tough, not a wimp")...
What reality are we in when a Democrat candidate is seen as tougher than a Republican candidate?
ABC News has exclusively learned that Alaska Senator Hollis French will announce today that he is moving up the release date of his investigation into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her office to get the Alaska public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, fired. The results of the investigation were originally scheduled for release Oct. 31 but will now come almost three weeks earlier, according to sources. The announcement is set for 9 a.m. AKDT time.
The Alaska state senator running an investigation of Gov. Palin had accused the McCain campaign of using stall tactics to prevent him from releasing his final report by Oct. 31, four days before the November election.
"It's likely to be damaging to the Governor's administration," said Senator Hollis French, a Democrat, appointed the project manager for a bi-partisan State Senate Legislative Counsel Committee investigation.
Palin, who has denied any wrongdoing and has said she has nothing to hide, has hired private lawyers to represent her in the matter.
Two things I wonder about this article: One its from ABC News, the other that statement about "damaging" came from a Democrat. Remember 4 years ago when CBS News had that botched scoop of how Bush didn't do his National Guard duty? Ehh...
Still haven't seen the Obama/O'Reilly interview, but apparently O'Reilly was impressed:
Chatting with Obama By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com Friday, September 5, 2008
Like him or not, you have to give Barack Obama credit for waging a smart, focused campaign. Destroying the Clinton machine was a major achievement and so was putting together a successful convention in Denver. Obama is now firmly a part of U.S. history, no matter what happens in the presidential election.
The problem some Americans continue to have with the Senator is that he is long on charisma but short on detail. This frightens some voters. Who the heck is this guy, anyway? So when Obama finally agreed to speak to me this week, specifics were on my mind.
First, the man. The Barack Obama I witnessed is self-confident, determined and driven. He was acutely aware of his surroundings from the moment he entered the room. He looks you in the eye and touches your shoulder. He understands how to connect one-on-one.
As far as philosophy goes, Senator Obama is convinced that the federal government should be in control of income distribution and, to some extent, should regulate the free marketplace. That is a classic liberal position, and Obama promotes it well.
The Senator also believes that poor Americans have a basic right to free health care and monetary supplements from the government with no strings attached. The American substance abuser, for example, would derive the same benefit as a hard working, laid off worker would. Again, classic liberalism. No judgments made regarding entitlements.
So, if Barack Obama does become president, there will definitely be change. His left-wing base will demand it, and he will come through. You can decide if that's change we should believe in, but keep in mind that the unintended consequences of government interference in the marketplace are impossible to predict. Free markets have a way of chafing under government imposition.
On the foreign policy front, Obama has convinced me that he is tough but cautious. He rose up quickly because he vehemently opposed the Iraq war. But now I see a man who understands the victory that has taken place in Iraq. I don't believe he wants to screw that up. I could be wrong.
After going mano-a-mano with Obama on television, I am also persuaded that he is a sincere guy—that he wants the best for all Americans. He's an ideologue, but not a blind one. He understands that his story is incredible, and, I have come to believe, he is grateful to the American system for allowing it happen.
It is true that we don't know whether Senator Obama has the ability to solve complex problems, but you can say that about all presidential contenders.
Like most politicians, Obama has used guile and good luck to accumulate his power. He can be ruthless, kind, unfair, and generous. In short, he's a real person trying to achieve an unreal position—that of the most powerful person in the world.
You confusing me with SB again? Or are you agreeing with me that Double-J is a sheep wearer? (Careful with your answer.... you might make the "Rainman" signature).
"Oops, I did it again..."
Mi Dispiace. I did mean SB. Those keys are just too close.
But, MSNBC and others seem to have confirmed that Palin listed the Alaska Governor's plane on eBay, but didn't sell it there. She sold it to a campaign contributor and at a loss.
Liai, liar, pants on fire!
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"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
MSNBC and others seem to have confirmed that Palin listed the Alaska Governor's plane on eBay, but didn't sell it there. She sold it to a campaign contributor and at a loss.
Double J, I notice that you tend to make disparaging remarks regarding the comments of others. You seem to believe differently than what they've posted. Perhaps you could explain WHY you feel the way you do and how you believe that Senator McCain would do differently if elected.
I'm sure there are many undecideds out there. They do say that education is the key - so please explain.
I just find it utterly hilarious that Patrick asserts that if Obama is elected, anyone earning under $250,000 won't see a tax increase.
I don't even need to explain that.
Perhaps we are all not as wise as you. Please explain.
Perhaps we are all not as wise as you. Please explain.
Oh shit. We're not as wise as JJ? We're all Forrest Gumps?
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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...I just find it utterly hilarious that Patrick asserts that if Obama is elected, anyone earning under $250,000 won't see a tax increase. I don't even need to explain that.
Perhaps we are all not as wise as you. Please explain.
I'm almost as wise as Double-J, and apparently he momentarily forgot the way people think around here...so I'll try to explain.
While those people may not see an increase in personal taxes (which even that I don't believe, look what Clinton did in March, 1993)...it would certainly have an effect when businesses of all kinds have to raise prices, from the mom & pop store to the publishers who put out the magazines you buy at checkout (including 'US', which wasted no time trashing Gov. Palin); doctor/dentist fees; federal taxes on things like telephone and cable svc. among others, and employer taxes which may or may not result in hiring freezes, reduction in benefits and possibly layoffs.
You people who think 'taxes' just means what comes out of the paycheck (although that's plenty already)...well, I guess you're just not as wise as the rest of us.
Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
The cost of living is going to rise regardless of who is elected in November. Clinton raised taxes and balanced the budget and we had one of the longest periods of economic expansion in our history. Dubya came in and slashed taxes and created an economy fueled by borrowing from China and then taking that money and sending it to Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. It is an insane policy which must be corrected. This means everyone is going to have to sacrifice. For you right wingers who are allergic to taxation, this will be a test to see if this "Country First" slogan McCain has recently adopted has any meaning or is just more republican rhetoric.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
Thank goodness you explained that, Apple! There's no WAY I'm going to vote for Senator Obama if he's going to do something like THAT!! Gosh, I don't want to see a rise in the cost of goods, like food, fuel, utilities, people losing their homes because they can't keep up with rising costs, employers slashing jobs, unemployment on the rise...
Thank goodness you explained that, Apple! There's no WAY I'm going to vote for Senator Obama if he's going to do something like THAT!! Gosh, I don't want to see a rise in the cost of goods, like food, fuel, utilities, people losing their homes because they can't keep up with rising costs, employers slashing jobs, unemployment on the rise...
Oh, wait!! We have that NOW.
Good one.
Also, Apple, you might explain why the Republican controlled Congress from 2001 through 2006 with a Republican President increased the national debt by $5 trillion. As a result, mortgage and business finance as well as individual finance had to compete with the US Treasury for customers thus increasing interest rates and diminishing the capacity of businesses to invest.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
I get a laugh out of McCain pointing a finger at the current administration in blame for the Freddie Mac/Ferdie Mae mess. No doubt he now wants to distance himself from Bush. You REALLY believe that W. didn't attend the convention because of Gustav? Bullshit. He was told to stay away. Same for the v.p. (what's his name - the guy who shoots his friends). They send him off on some Mickey Mouse trip (kind of sounds like Fredo).
OK... it's the smart political move (to try to back away from the terrible job the current administration has done) but didn't McCain vote 90% along with W. all along?
And what's this "change" thing McCain's talking about all of a sudden, stealing Obama's theme. Wasn't it Reagan who asked "are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" It's been 8 years of a downhill spiral, enough of the bullshit already.
Anyway, for anyone else, on either side following this election closely, it is a roller coaster ride at times no?? And the polls, OMG!! How reliable are they? I wouldn't dare to ever get overly optimistic because who knows how it'll end up, but I have been reading a whole lot about the ground work Obama supporters are doing in registering new voters. While, we couldn't know how many will actually come out to vote, it sounds as though they are making huge strides in these registrations. Could this be a surprise in the end? Maybe, using Obama's word from his speech, "something's stirring."
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
The national polls mean less and less as time goes by. Pay increasing attention to the state by state polls. They indicate which candidate will receive their electoral votes.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
The national polls mean less and less as time goes by. Pay increasing attention to the state by state polls. They indicate which candidate will receive their electoral votes.
You're 100% correct. I'll have to look for it, but there was one site that gave McCain only a 14% mathematical chance of winning the election, based on State polling and what the current Electoral Vote projections look like.
The national polls mean less and less as time goes by. Pay increasing attention to the state by state polls. They indicate which candidate will receive their electoral votes.
You're 100% correct. I'll have to look for it, but there was one site that gave McCain only a 14% mathematical chance of winning the election, based on State polling and what the current Electoral Vote projections look like.
CNN has Obama with 239 electoral votes to McCain's 189. Fox: 228 to 200
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
The national polls mean less and less as time goes by. Pay increasing attention to the state by state polls. They indicate which candidate will receive their electoral votes.
Who are the people being polled in all of these polls?
I get a laugh out of McCain pointing a finger at the current administration in blame for the Freddie Mac/Ferdie Mae mess. No doubt he now wants to distance himself from Bush. You REALLY believe that W. didn't attend the convention because of Gustav? Bullshit. He was told to stay away. Same for the v.p. (what's his name - the guy who shoots his friends). They send him off on some Mickey Mouse trip (kind of sounds like Fredo).
OK... it's the smart political move (to try to back away from the terrible job the current administration has done) but didn't McCain vote 90% along with W. all along?
Smoke and mirrors.
Nevermind that while the GOP is saying how Obama is wrong on this and that, I want to ask them this:
If so, then how come after Obama advocated sending more troops to Afghanistan, McCain/White House followed suite?
How about how McCain/White House was all about no time tables and no withdrawing or surrendering, but very soon after the Maliki government supported Obama's withdrawal plan, a mother fucking public political undercut punch if there ever was one, McCain/White House followed suite with that "Time Horizontal" or whatever the hell it was called.
If the guy is foolish, why follow him then?
"Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi
I wouldn't dare to ever get overly optimistic because who knows how it'll end up, but I have been reading a whole lot about the ground work Obama supporters are doing in registering new voters. While, we couldn't know how many will actually come out to vote, it sounds as though they are making huge strides in these registrations. Could this be a surprise in the end? Maybe, using Obama's word from his speech, "
