....And for you gamblers out there, the current Vegas Odds are:

Obama: -180

McCain: +140

I'm starting to get tired with B. Hussein Obama's constant harping on McCain's record of voting 90% of the time with Bush. While this number is accurate, as recently as 2005 it was 77%. B. Hussein Obama's claim that we can't take a 10% chance on change is extremely misleading. He wants Americans to believe that every one of those votes was the wrong decision, when B. Hussein Obama himself has voted with Bush 41% of the time. In other words, B. Hussein Obama disagreed with only 49% of that original 90%. In fact, B. Hussein Obama has voted with the Democrats 97% of the time - not exactly breaking with traditional politics.

B. Hussein Obama?

You know, we could as well call him B. Hussein O.

Only disagrees with half. Well, as long as it's only half...



The Obama is needed for the Osama connection.

If we can link Obama to Osama (Joe Bi)n La(den) and Saddam (Barack) Hussein (Obama) we can get all the ignorant dumbfucks to vote for us and then the election is ours!

...Seriously. If You're trying to use a guy's middle name as a reason not to vote for him there is something wrong with you.

How about people are using his middle name because it's his middle name. Anyway, even the omitting the middle name doesn't eliminate his decades-long association with known terrorists.

Actually, that lunatic Keith Oberman initiated this association by 'middle name' thing during the primaries earlier this year...when he constantly referred to one of the Republican candidates as " Mitt 'Willard' Romney "

Apple

Hey, WILLARD was a good movie.

Don't beat up on poor Crispin Glover.

A fine point, but when a candidate is off about "Change" and criticized his party, i.e. President, and claims he is off about not doing the Same Old Shit of the last 8 years....that 90% number may be effective on the campaign trail.

If this election is about bullshit, so far McCain smells the worst.

You need to do more research or just consider not typing on this Board.

Mitt Romney "initiated" the name-game by referring to Barack as Osama during a speech Romney gave in South Carolina during October, 2007.

Keith Olbermann is just about the most articulate host of any talk show and the correctness of his facts are just about beyond dispute. He repeatedly points up the errors in O'Reilly's statements such as O'Reilly's statement that Americans massacred German soldiers at Malmedy during Battle of the Buldge.

This the same Romney who made fun of his liberal state to conservatives at a dinner earlier this year while campaigning for President...you know, that state he was a PRO-CHOICE GOVERNOR of for 4 years?

What an asshole.



I don't care much for Olbermann himself, just maybe a click or two better than O'Reilly on the dipshit meter, but oh I remember that WW2 gaffe by O'Reilly, and Fox News wiped it off the official transcript, but MSNBC showed the video of O'Reilly's screw up.

That's what I don't get about alot of TV personalities...can't they sometimes admit they fucked up on the facts, apologize, and move on?

Then again, as I've said it before, I would rather be corrected and look silly than be wrong just to stroke up my ego.

Olbermann can be an ass too. It is fun to watch him pick apart O'Reilly though.

McCain scores points with me for genuinely disliking Romney.

Remember that debate when Romney said that McCain wasn't conservative because the New York Times endorsed him?

The look on McCain's face, he wanted to strangle that fucker right on the spot.

But I tell ya, if Obama wins and its Romney that's the GOP nominee in 2012, and if I'm still around and DJ/Apple pimp him out as their Conservative Savior...

I'll LMAO.

Romney is looking at 2012 no matter who wins. McCain isn't going to run for a 2nd term, and there's no way they'll let Palin run for the top spot. (I don't think)

Has he said that he won't run for a second term?

And yeah, as someone at the American Conservative Magazine argued, Palin isn't the future of the GOP. If that scenario you described happens, Romney/Pawlenty/Huckabee will fight in a brutal steel cage match, with Palin perhaps the first to go.

I can't imagine McCain running a second term, but I don't think he's ever committed to one only.

Btw, has there ever been a President who, going in, says they only want to run one term???? I can't imagine it would be wise for any candidate to admit. Then again, considering McCain's age, maybe most people would find it acceptable? Then again, if they do, it show's they worry about him being too old to rule.

Anyway, as far as Palin goes, she is he "Obama" of the Republican party (at least I think that's how the Republicans feel). She's peaked IMHO, but holding back from interiews is only buying time. There has to be a reason......and we know what that must be. Bottom line, thus far, it still looks like a very very close race.

TIS

McCain-Palin becoming Palin-McCain?

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - The banners, buttons and signs say McCain-Palin, but the crowds say something else.

"Sa-rah! Pa-lin!" came the chant at a Colorado Springs rally on Saturday moments before Republican nominee John McCain took the stage with Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a woman who was virtually unknown to the nation just a week earlier. The day before, thousands screamed "Sa-rah! Sa-rah! Sa-rah!" at an amphitheater outside Detroit.

"Real change with a real woman," read one sign at a Wisconsin rally. "Hurricane Sarah leaves liberals spinning," cried another.

In the short time since McCain spirited the 44-year-old first-term governor out of Alaska and onto a national stage as his running mate, Palin has become an instant celebrity. And since her speech at the Republican National Convention, watched by more than 40 million Americans, she is emerging as the main attraction for many voters at their campaign appearances.

"She's the draw for a lot of people," said Marilyn Ryman, who came to see her at the Colorado rally inside an airport hangar. "The fact that she's someone new, not the old everything we've seen before."

McCain has sought to portray Palin as a bulldog who will help him "shake things up" on Capitol Hill.

Washington, he said Saturday, is "going to get to know her, but I can't guarantee you they'll love her."

"We do!" came a cry from the crowd.

At a rally in Albuquerque later, McCain acknowledged the juice she has injected into his campaign.

"The response to her has been overwhelming, it's been incredible," he said.

Perhaps recognizing the excitement she is generating, the McCain campaign was planning to keep Palin with McCain for several more days, rather than dispatch her to campaign by herself, as had initially been discussed.

On Saturday, McCain and Palin rode their post-convention wave into the competitive West, where Democrats have made recent gains in traditional Republican strongholds.

After a day of talking up economic themes in the Midwest, the pair attracted thousands at a rally in Colorado Springs, a city at the foot of Pike's Peak that is home to many conservatives and military families.

It was McCain's first appearance in Colorado since the Democrats had their convention in Denver last month.

Both campaigns consider the battleground state in play with the election less than two months away.

"Colorado, it's going to be a hard-fought battle here," Palin said. As soon as she began speaking, a group of supporters interrupted her with a cheer of "Sa-rah! Sa-rah!"

Palin is even getting the star treatment from celebrity magazines, Web sites and television programs, which have played up her personal story as a mother of five children, one of whom is 17 years old, unmarried and pregnant.

The excitement with which people are turning out to see Palin could complicate a key line of attack that the McCain campaign has been building against Democrat Barack Obama for months.

Republicans have sought to cast Obama's support as nothing more than shallow adoration and hype befitting a movie star. They have mocked his appeal among Hollywood types and compared his star status to that of lightweights like Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. They say there is nothing of substance to back up the candidacy of the Illinois senator.

Palin herself asked in her convention speech what happens "when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot — what exactly is our opponent's plan?"

Obama has been careful in his comments about her, saying Saturday that she has flip-flopped on spending earmarks, but also calling her a "skillful politician."

While campaigning in New Mexico, which is shaping up to be another competitive state, Palin and McCain staged their own Hollywood-like entrance at a rally.

After a rousing introduction by actor Robert Duvall, McCain and Palin made their entrance by bounding off a "Straight Talk Express" bus that drove straight into the rally's convention hall, underneath a giant America flag that was raised like a curtain.

As a delighted crowd screamed its approval, the rally was clouded by either exhaust or stage smoke.

Voters interviewed at rallies said their support for McCain has been cemented with his pick of Palin, who is a social conservative and reassures many who were wary about McCain on those issues.

Patricia Hoskins said she was already backing McCain but that Palin "really lit the fire under me."

And in the brief time that McCain and Palin have been campaigning since she introduced herself to the nation, many women at their events have said they identify with her personal struggles.

"She's every mom," said Lindsey Denny, a mother of 7, including a set of quintuplets, two of whom have special needs like Palin's infant son with Down syndrome. Denny said Palin's inclusion on the ticket was "110 percent" the reason why she went to see her Saturday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080907/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_palin;_ylt=Aj6LBx.k.eDxbDHSYfDjQtDCw5R4

William Henry Harrison...who died a month after his inaguration.



Two reasons why:

(1) She's practically become the star of the GOP ticket, and not McCain. They probably want him to be "the guy" again and regain the spotlight you know?

(2) Perhaps she may fold like a deck of cards under serious questions of foreign or domestic policy, or that she maybe seen as an airhead or worse, she'll say something that'll piss off McCain-lean voters with something like: "Victims of rape should be forced to bear their rapist's child."

All the speculation during the RNC was that Romney was sucking up to McCain knowing that 2012 he would get a chance to run again for the top spot no matter who won this election because McCain would not seek a 2nd term. AFAIK, McCain has never come out and said this, but he would be 80 years old at the end of his 2nd term.

Before anyone can compare Obama and Palin, the GOP has to take the leash off her. So far all she's capable of doing is give a speech with McCain looking over her shoulder.

That's so true. He's just an under-achiever, in the long run. Why couldn't he go all out and make it a point to associate himself with terrorists and the nazi-party, like the Bush family?

Plus, he is black, which makes him less intelligent.

I'll be writing in Mitt Romney on my ballet.

Hi, I'm the Afghani-Iraqi war, have we met?

It would be so helpful if the Board's moderators would filter potential Board posters with an intelligence/cognition test.

The Congressional Joint Economic Committee published its fndings in November 2007 that estimated the costs of both the war in Iraq and in Afghanistan at $800 billion. There are 1,000 billions in a trillion. Do the math.

OK. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, (why do I suddenly feel like I'm doing a McCain imitation of him trying to remember how many homes he owns?).... Damn, now I lost count.

1, 2, 3 .........

Yes, but that's 800 billion that had to be taken away from other programs who in turn had to ...borrow the funds to make up for the insufficiency caused by the allocation of war funds. Thus, when thought of in these terms--the amount of loans sought by those 'programs' who lost their funding to the war--that 800 billion figure begins to swell.

Fuck it. Just stand a post, son!

That doesn't make any sense. $800 billion is $800 billion. It doesn't matter what it was spent on. You either have the revenue to spend on it or you don't. If you don't, you borrow it. Because federal reveunes from 2001 through 2006 were not sufficiient to pay for federal expenditures during those years, the Republican controlled Congress (which also formulates and approves the annual federal budgets) authorized the Treasury Departmdent to borrow approximately $5 trillion.

Oh, that's why everyone says John Sidney McCain when talking about the republican candidate .

Any facts to back up your terrorist statement?

Don't bother, she'll simply ignore you when forced to confront with facts.

Governments typically finish in the red each and every fiscal year, there's nothing abnormal about that. The question is, how much. You say it's 5 trillion. And I say when you combine the 800 billion spent for the war (+) additional 800 billion or so that must be borrowed to make up for the 800 billion taken away from 'programs' and allocated to the war (-) about a 1/2 trillion from that 5 trillion figure that is interest accrued (+) about another trillion or so used for homeland security here at home and at our bases and embassies around the world: you end up with a deficit of about 2 trillion and not 5 trillion, with the remaining 3 trillion (rightfully) used in the 'war on terror'...Point Being: Republican is the party of economists, not Democrat.

Last President to balance the budget?

Nixon, who wasn't mentioned at all at the 2008 RNC, unless I'm mistaken. Too bad because he was the last GOP President who oversaw the cutting of some spending, unless I'm mistaken.