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Re: NFL '08
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09/08/08 01:23 AM
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but the biggest upset perhaps was Kyle Orton and rookie Forte blasting the Colts at home. I didn't get to see the second half of the game, I figured the Colts would have come back. Not only is it amazing the Bears won but they won by 16! Maybe those Super Bowl Predictions weren't that far off giving Chicago 18/1
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: Longneck]
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09/08/08 02:28 PM
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The Bears looked like a team that could win the NFC if they kept it up all year, the Colts looked like Peyton Manning's knee was bothering him and they forgot to call some running plays. The defense looked bad too. Marvin Harrison had a costly fumble, again. This was supposed to be an easy game on a tough schedule. Bah. There's still 18 games to go You may be right about the knee. I knew Manning was certainly not a fleet footed QB, but he appeared more immobile than I had remembered. The defense kept getting into third and short situations, and it seemed the Bears would always convert by just a yard. Harrison was looking his age. I agree that they could have run the ball more although they weren't getting a lot on the ground. LN, did you think that the Colts were throwing too many passes beneath the coverage. While I didn't see the whole game, it looked as though Manning was very accurate on longer passes for a guy, who missed the preseason. I agree with DS that this was a good win for the Bears, but they may have a way to go before they can think about the playoffs. They're headed in the right direction though.
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Re: NFL '08
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09/10/08 09:57 PM
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Fuck. Ed Johnson's latest off-the-field problem is one the Indianapolis Colts won't tolerate.
The team will waive their starting defensive tackle today as a result of his arrest early Wednesday morning in Hamilton County for possession of marijuana. Advertisement
The Colts promised swift disciplinary action once they had completed their fact-finding mission, and delivered. They are jettisoning a player who had started 18 games, including one in the postseason, after being signed as an undrafted rookie in May 2007.
"We consider every violation of a team rule or NFL policy on an individual case-by-case basis,'' Colts president Bill Polian said in a statement released by the team. "If club discipline is appropriate, we consider the past record of the individual involved and the extent to which team rules were violated when imposing penalties.''
While at Penn State, Johnson was disciplined three times by the school. That included being suspended for the entire 2005 season, reportedly for alleged sexual misconduct and confinement of another student against that person's will. No charges were filed from that incident. Johnson also was suspended for Penn State's 2006 Outback Bowl game for violating unspecified team rules.
Polian stressed that Johnson knew his history required him to fully comply with team rules.
"He was repeatedly told this during the offseason,'' Polian said. "Along with his teammates, he was reminded as recently as (Tuesday) of coach Dungy's rules of behavior.
"Unfortunately, he chose to violate those rules. Given the circumstances surrounding Ed's original employment with the Colts . . . we have no choice but to take this action.''
The Colts took a flier on Johnson following the 2007 draft despite his checkered past. Relatively speaking, it wasn't a huge investment. Johnson signed a one-year contract for $285,000, the league minimum for rookies. His base salary this season was $370,000, again the league minimum, and he will receive only one-seventeenth of that ($21,764).
It's uncertain how the Colts will adjust to Johnson's absence. They could return Raheem Brock to tackle from left end, or stick with one of their backup tackles -- Eric Foster, Dan Muir or Darrell Reid -- to play alongside Keyunta Dawson.
Johnson's latest troubles began at 12:08 Wednesday morning. A Hamilton County police officer stopped Johnson's 2009 Mercedes on westbound I-465 for going 72 mph in a 55-mph zone.
When Johnson opened his car door to talk with the officer, "the officer noticed the odor of marijuana coming from inside the vehicle,'' according to Vicky Dunbar, a public information officer with the Hamilton County Sheriff's Department.
A subsequent search of Johnson's car, initially by a K-9 unit, revealed an undisclosed amount of marijuana in the center console.
Johnson, 24, was given a citation for speeding and arrested on marijuana possession, a Class A misdemeanor. He was transported to the Hamilton County Jail where he posted bond and was released.
Johnson could not be reached for comment. But in an interview with JOCKlife.com, he thanked the Colts for giving him the opportunity to play in the NFL. He did not address his arrest. Dammit! He was a good player, a much needed player. I guess you could say good for the Colts for cutting anyone who gets arrested i.e. Kenton Keith, also didn't re-sign Rhodes after his DUI so he was sent to hell (Oakland) for a year before resigning with the Colts..... but damn man. Ed Johnson? Well, he should be signed with the Bengals within a few days...
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: Longneck]
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09/15/08 10:13 AM
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Yep, the Chargers got burned. I disagree with the call on the field, but once the whistle blows, of course, you can't challenge the ruling of an incomplete pass.
The referee, in retrospect, should not have blown the whistle and allowed the play to continue even if he saw it as an incomplete pass. After the ball was scooped up and taken out of bounds, he should have made the incomplete call, and then subject the call to review.
If the game had been played in San Diego, there is no way the referee would have announced on the field that the call should have been ruled a fumble, but because the whistle blew, it's Denver's ball.
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Re: NFL '08
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09/15/08 01:36 PM
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With all this talk about the Raiders getting ready (supposedly) to fire their coach, I think the head coach, who is probably most deserving of being shown the door is Marvin Lewis. They keep going bacwaards, and Carson Palmer is not the QB many thought he would be.
Also, Romeo Crenell seems to have trouble managing the game. Last yer against Pittsburgh he took a timeout to decide if they should challenge a call. He challenged; it wasn't overturned; and they lost two timeouts, which were critical.
Last night, he let too much time elapse in the final 30 seconds of the second quarter, and even though they were in easy field goal range, they ran a play with eight seconds, which was picked off.
I thought that when he was down by 7 with 3:20 in the game he should have gone for the first down on 4th and 7, instead of the field goal. They never got the ball back, plus they let 7-10 seconds run off the clock before taking two of the timeouts.
Goombah would be the best guy to weigh in on this.
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Re: NFL '08
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09/17/08 04:17 PM
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With all this talk about the Raiders getting ready (supposedly) to fire their coach, I think the head coach, who is probably most deserving of being shown the door is Marvin Lewis. They keep going bacwaards, and Carson Palmer is not the QB many thought he would be.
Also, Romeo Crenell seems to have trouble managing the game. Last yer against Pittsburgh he took a timeout to decide if they should challenge a call. He challenged; it wasn't overturned; and they lost two timeouts, which were critical.
Last night, he let too much time elapse in the final 30 seconds of the second quarter, and even though they were in easy field goal range, they ran a play with eight seconds, which was picked off.
I thought that when he was down by 7 with 3:20 in the game he should have gone for the first down on 4th and 7, instead of the field goal. They never got the ball back, plus they let 7-10 seconds run off the clock before taking two of the timeouts.
Goombah would be the best guy to weigh in on this. Marvin Lewis needs to go, he can't get the Bengals past 9-7, 8-8, 7-9 type of records and he got rid of a Pro-Bowl Caliber RB in favor of a guy who has not been healthy for a full season in the 3 years he's been in the league. Carson Palmer is an elite passer, one of the few bright spots on the team this year. Lane Kiffin needs to go just because he can find a better job somewhere else and the Raiders and self-implode without him. Al Davis is really the one who needs to go here, but that won't happen unless he dies. Romeo Crennel just doesn't seem to be made out for the job to me. Great coordinator maybe, not so much as Head Coach. He has done some good things as far as changing the attitude of the Browns a bit but I don't know how much further he can take them.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: NFL '08
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09/18/08 12:06 AM
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Lane Kiffin needs to go just because he can find a better job somewhere else and the Raiders and self-implode without him. Al Davis is really the one who needs to go here, but that won't happen unless he dies. Personally I'm getting a kick out of Lane Kiffin. He is the only guy to ever push Al Davis' buttons while still working for him. While it may be unprofessional I don't know anybody who doesn't respect him for it. Al Davis has and will continue to ruin this team so I hope Kiffin is around for a while just to add amusement to the chaotic environment. The Raiders could be so good if Al Davis would just step back and let coaches coach. I don't know how much more of it I can take.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: NFL '08
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09/18/08 12:35 AM
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Lane Kiffin needs to go just because he can find a better job somewhere else and the Raiders and self-implode without him. Al Davis is really the one who needs to go here, but that won't happen unless he dies. Personally I'm getting a kick out of Lane Kiffin. He is the only guy to ever push Al Davis' buttons while still working for him. While it may be unprofessional I don't know anybody who doesn't respect him for it. Al Davis has and will continue to ruin this team so I hope Kiffin is around for a while just to add amusement to the chaotic environment. The Raiders could be so good if Al Davis would just step back and let coaches coach. I don't know how much more of it I can take. I completely agree with everything you just said.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: NFL '08
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09/19/08 12:28 AM
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I'm a little late on the discussion but, aside from how the San Diego/Denver game ended in controversy, Does anyone else think Mike Shanahan is awesome for going for the two point conversion to win the game rather than playing for the tie? That guy has guts because he could have looked stupid if it didn't work.
Has anyone heard him talk about why he did that? I wonder if it's because he knew the game was handed to them with that blown call, so he thought he might as well work for the win. Or maybe he had a hot date and didn't want to go to overtime? It was a gutsy move, but he had a couple things going for him. The Chargers were on their heels. A minute ago they were celebrating a victory, and therefore they went through a roller coaster of emotion. Also, the Chargers weren't expecting it. It was a good call. Shanahan's teams have underachieved the last several years, so I'm not sold on Denver, and think the Chargers will eventually have the last laugh in that division.
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Re: NFL '08
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09/19/08 10:17 AM
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Probably, but I'm also not convinced of Norv Turner's ability to be a head coach. I think he's a great offensive coordinator, but nothing more.
With Jay Cutler's problem with diabetes last year, I wouldn't be surprised if Denver is legit. It looked like Cutler was going to be a good quarterback early on but people forgot about him with his health issues, which he supposedly has under control and is in much better physical and, I'm sure, mental health. The Bronco's could be a surprise story this year. I'm not a fan of Norv, but he did survive a bad start last year and got the team to the AFC Championship. I don't think you need to be Vince Lombardi to win the AFC West this year. Cutler has a lively arm and can put up big numbers, but his recklessness has hindered him as he has always been plagued by more than his share of turnovers. In fact, but for the blown call against SD, the story line of the game would have been Cutler's 4th quarter interception and fumble deep in SD territory.
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Re: NFL '08
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09/19/08 11:20 AM
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Side note, are the Vikings going to try and get quarterback Jeff Garcia from Tampa Bay? He is apparently not in favor there and is still a decent quarterback.
Also, why isn't Daunte Culpepper playing for anyone? If the corpse of Gus Frerotte can play for Minnesota, it seems like the once great Culpepper would be a much better candidate. That bridge is burned between Pepper and Minnesota. I guess he had an offer from Green Bay for 1 mil but turned it down and retired saying no one would give him a shot. I really don't know why Gruden would bench Garcia. Chris Simms is still unsigned, and Tim Rattay. I'd give Simms a shot in Minnesota.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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