Both games are underway.

I'm hoping that Saturday's game goes in Philly. I'm taking my kids and a couple other dads are bringing their crew.

Nice, Klyd!

I almost feel bad rooting against you now.

Almost.

1933 - Jimmie Foxx AL / Chuck Klein NL

I don't think it's ever been done.

You'd be right except for one problem. Neither of them were Jewish.

Aw, fuck it.

Let's go Cubbies.

Good try.

In 1979 Dave Kingman, then with the Cubs, led the NL while Gorman Thomas of the Brewers led the AL. In 1982 the pair again led their leagues, but this time Kingman was a Met, and Thomas was tied in HRs with Reggie Jackson, who probably isn't Jewish.

Another oddity in 1982 was that it was the only time where the Cy Young Award winner had a higher batting average than the league HR hitter. Kingman finished at .204 while Steve Carlton hit .218.

Back to the thread...It looks a little gloomy for the Mets now. I was surprised that there were so many empty seats at Shea, not only because of the playoff race, but because it's the last year for the stadium. I also heard on the Met telecast that because the Mets lost, Santana will pitch Saturday on three days' rest after 125 pitches in the previous start. I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.

I think most of the empty seats were due to the weather forecast. It was supposed to be heavy rain all night, but it never happened. The tickets were sold. It was all no-shows.

You sure they're both Jewish?

I hated Dave Kingman, but to this day, I've never seen anyone hit a ball as hard as he did at Shea Stadium. Not Daryl, not Piazza. Although they were both better ballplayers, and probably better people.

I loved Dave Kingman as a kid. For a while, he was the only reason to watch the Mets to me.

I remember Thomas was Jewish, but about 20 years ago I read this in an article about Jewish mlbers.

what's most unbelievable is that is that if he do not throw a complete game shutout he will go down as the guy who did not earn his millionaire contract. he, of the sub 3 ERA, over 200 K's and over 20 quality starts. and he should have over 20 wins as well, if not for those guys who blew up the season.

santana holds the mets future in his hands. the stakes are high.

An absolutely unbelievable performance by Johan Santana!

On three days rest, he tosses a three hit, complete game shutout to keep the Mets wild card hopes alive, going into the final game of the regular season. We still need some help from the Cubbies (who have to beat the Brewers for us today or tomorrow), but we still have some hope. It is absolutely CRIMINAL that he won't really be a Cy Young contender due to all of the blown saves, because he's clearly one of the three best pitchers in BOTH leagues.

On a more humorous note. How bad is Hank Steinbrenner's ulcer right about now, after watching Johan single handedly keep the hopes of his crosstown rivals alive?

First the Yankees choose to give Randy Johnson all that money instead of Beltran, then they refuse to give up young players for Johan.

4-0 Cubs

Brewers lose!

We're pretty much in control of our destiny. We win tomorrow and we're guaranteed at least a one game playoff on Monday.

Oh yeah. Congrats on the division, Counselor. Maybe we'll meet up in the playoffs.

If the Mets play Monday, I'll probably be there. I'm trying to get tickets for tomorrow too.

Me too, Lou. As we speak. I'm waiting on a callback from my sister-in-law. She has a pretty good hook into Shea. If she can't come through on short notice, I'll figure something out. If the Mets won't be denied, neither will I.

When are they going to connect Cashman with no winner.

Santana is the best pitcher in the MLB by far.

one of the most unbelievable things I've notived too was that Gil Meche was one of the best pitchers in the MLB in the second half of the season along with him.

I got back late last night from Philly after watching them win the division. It was an amazing time and 45 year old Philadelphia-born Jamie Moyer won his 16th game. He won the clincher last year too.

It was an incredible moment, which was made more wonderful by being with my kids when it happened.

pizzaboy, you are right about Steinbrenner kicking himself for not unloading Kennedy, Hughes and Cabrera for a star pitcher. If he made the deal, the Yankees would be in the playoffs, and the Mets would have been eliminated weeks ago.

Bel-tran!

Another bullpen meltdown. What else is new.

Milwaukee just took a 2 run lead.

Figures...

The fat lady is clearing her throat.

These 5 pieces of garbage better not be on the team next year.

Aaron Heilman
Luis Ayala
Duaner Sanchez
Scott Schoeneweis
Luis Castillo

Well, the Brooklyn Dodgers' fans used to say it all the time...

"Wait 'til next year".