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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Longneck]
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10/02/08 11:34 PM
10/02/08 11:34 PM
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ronnierocketAGO
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Biden did well at countering Palin's "Obama voted to ..." with "McCain voted for it too because it...." a few different times. That was big to me that she tried to distort the facts and Biden constantly caught her and put everything into context.
She did better than expected but that doesn't say much about the public opinion of her, does it?
If the CNN polling is any indication, and its not necessarily... Is Palin Qualified to be VP?Before DebateYes: 42 No: 54 After DebateYes: 46 No: 53 ------------------------- Alright, most CNN viewers usually are Democrat-leaning, so basically she didn't get much traction with them. No surprise at all. No, I wanna see the ABC/CBS/NBC polls on this one.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
#513281
10/02/08 11:35 PM
10/02/08 11:35 PM
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Matey, ever heard of the term token? Yeah, like how Barry is a token "half-black" candidate? Who's Barry? Barry Bonds? Nah he's full-black man. I think he's talking about Barry HUSSEIN Obama.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Just Lou]
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10/02/08 11:40 PM
10/02/08 11:40 PM
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Freddie C.
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Fox News text Poll.... drum roll please..... Palin-86% Biden-12% Is that anymore funny than you continually quoting liberal/left leaning polls and articles?
"The Dewey Decimal System... What a scam that was!"
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Freddie C.]
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10/02/08 11:51 PM
10/02/08 11:51 PM
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Posts: 13,145 East Tennessee
ronnierocketAGO
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Fell free to post any right leaning polls that show some different results. Shit, or get off the pot. I guess that I'll get off the pot. Go Mets!  As I said before, the CNN/FOX NEWS polls are no surprise. Agree?
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Freddie C.]
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10/03/08 06:44 AM
10/03/08 06:44 AM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 17,300 New York
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But to get back to my question, do you agree that if Governor Palin was elected that it would be a major step backward for women? I answered your question to the best of my ability - I think that it would be a step backward for ALL Americans. I believe that the current Republican candidate and his running mate would simply be a continuation of the failed policies of the current administration. In all good conscience, I can't vote for anyone will is not committed to ending what I feel is an unjust war. I can't vote for someone who calls himself a maverick, and yet whose ideals are not very different from President Bush's. I can't vote for any candidate who is committed to overturning Roe v. Wade. Those are personal choices that I make in voting. It has nothing to do with who Sarah Palin is as a person. I don't think it would be any different if it was McCain/Romney on the ticket. I think it simply would have been more of the same.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Freddie C.]
#513303
10/03/08 08:52 AM
10/03/08 08:52 AM
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Posts: 22,902 New York
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I'm not doubting that at this point Obama is the clear front runner. It's when he's actually in office that I'm worried . Now you know how I felt after W stole the election from Gore.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Mignon]
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10/03/08 10:14 AM
10/03/08 10:14 AM
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What's gonna matter is the next two debates. Now is the time for the "Maverick"  to pull out his trump card if he expects to win. What trump card?
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: dontomasso]
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10/03/08 11:38 AM
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Mignon
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What's gonna matter is the next two debates. Now is the time for the "Maverick"  to pull out his trump card if he expects to win. What trump card? If he has one.
Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Don Cardi]
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10/03/08 12:00 PM
10/03/08 12:00 PM
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I looked at it like a football game. Biden won the game, but Palin covered the spread. EXCELLENT analogy Lou! I like it! And perhaps Biden edged her out due to his scoring on a bad call by the officials.  "After further review the call on the field stands. McCain/Palin will be charged with their first timeout." Palin may lack depth on the issues, but she is likeable and has a folksy appeal that resonates with many Americans." She and her family are unique among the candidates. I think Biden was well advised not to attack her or correct her. She was evasive on some questions, falling back on the energy issue often, but once the candidates get rolling, many forget what the question was. I missed a half hour in the middle of the debate, but once again Biden made two references to Scranton. There is a flurry of campaign activity in northeastern PA. Yesterday, polls indicated that Obama has opened his largest lead yet. The economy is determining the election.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: klydon1]
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10/03/08 12:44 PM
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J Geoff
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I usually don't get into these discussions, but after last night -- while "likable and folksy" -- I have absolutely no faith in Palin as #2 of the free world. Many times debaters seem to avoid the questions asked, especially when they don't have a good answer, but she took it to a new level. She didn't "debate" so much as made it a point to use all her minutes to get her bullet-points in regardless of the question. Whenever Biden asked her a specific question, she danced around it. She also looked incredibly nervous and the antithesis of a candidate. Now, I'm not comparing her to the disaster by the name of James Stockdale (under Perot) or Dan Quayle, by any means, but she makes me nervous. I hate Hillary, but at least she presents herself as someone who knows what she's talking about -- whether right or wrong.
I don't particularly like either presidential candidate. We need something other than "more of the same" but at the same time, we need someone with experience who won't be irresponsible in finishing what we've started (regardless of how it was started). Almost every election it seems to be the lesser of two evils. I don't think anyone is particularly trustworthy, either.
The last two debates will hopefully produce a clear, convincing winner. And I hope the American people will listen to the issues discussed rather than voting strictly on party lines or because there's a minority or a woman on the ticket.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: J Geoff]
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10/03/08 01:16 PM
10/03/08 01:16 PM
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Posts: 18,238 The Ravenite Social Club
Don Cardi
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She also looked incredibly nervous and the antithesis of a candidate.
I expected her to be a bit nervous at the begining of the debate. Senator Biden has had many years of experience standing in front of television cameras and speaking to, and in front of, millions of Americans where as Governor Palin is just really getting her feet wet in addressing an Americn audience of this magnitute. All in all I think that she wound up doing a really good job and wound up being pretty calm and collective. And it looked as though Senator Biden himself saw this and respected her for it. I would love to know what Biden and her were talking about and laughing about when they introduced each other to their respective families after the debate was over. I hope the American people will listen to the issues discussed rather than voting strictly on party lines or because there's a minority or a woman on the ticket.
So do I Geoff, so do I.
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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