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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #513698
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McCain's brother: "Northern Virgina is 'Communist country'"

Republican presidential candidate John McCain's brother made an apparent joke at a campaign rally this weekend that might not play well in parts of newly competitive Virginia.

Joe McCain, speaking at an event in support of his brother, called two Democratic-leaning areas in Northern Virginia "communist country," according to a report on The Washington Post's Web site.

"I've lived here for at least 10 years and before that about every third duty I was in either Arlington or Alexandria, up in communist country," Joe McCain said at an event in Loudon County, Va.

Joe McCain then apologized, but the remark drew laughter at the event, according to the report.

Virginia has long been a Republican stronghold in presidential elections, but Democrat Barack Obama is running even or ahead of McCain in recent state polls. Obama is being helped by fast-growing communities in the Washington, D.C., suburbs of Northern Virginia, which tend to vote more Democratic than other parts of the state.

One of those areas is Arlington, Va., where John McCain owns a condominium.

"This was Joe McCain's unsuccessful attempt at humor," said McCain campaign spokeswoman Gail Gitcho. "John McCain and Sarah Palin are committed to winning the support of voters in Northern Virginia and understand the region's importance to victory statewide."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hby_5Pku5ywmfC_rEtEV5BcYKR5gD93KDFPO0

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #513699
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

lol

Did you make that up, Ronnie?

It's all over but the shoutin'. Put it in the books. Obama in a landslide. grin

I won't go negative on McCain, though. I respect him too much. He's served the country that he loves well.


No I didn't, but I found it at some looney toons liberal blog. They're worth something sometimes.

As for your predictions....didn't you sometime back openly worry that McCain was gonna squeak by in an election after the Palin pick?

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #513700
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

lol

Did you make that up, Ronnie?

It's all over but the shoutin'. Put it in the books. Obama in a landslide. grin

I won't go negative on McCain, though. I respect him too much. He's served the country that he loves well.


No I didn't, but I found it at some looney toons liberal blog. They're worth something sometimes.

As for your predictions....didn't you sometime back openly worry that McCain was gonna squeak by in an election after the Palin pick?


Yes, I did. But pessimist that I tend to be, you'd have to be blind not to see what's now happening. grin


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #513705
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One factor that's received little attention of the Board is the potential impact on the presidential race of Nader Barr. Any comments?

Barr has been as high as 6%, but is down around 1% now. Nader I'm not sure of.

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: olivant] #513708
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Barr has been as high as 6%, but is down around 1% now. Nader I'm not sure of.


Nader has reached his nadir. whistle


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: SC] #513714
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I think Nader is insignicant this election. Of course he'll get some votes, but the days of him being a spoiler, I think, are over. Not to say that another spoiler couldn't enter the mix, but not this election, not for the Dems anyway.

Never did like Bob Barr, but I'd guess he'll do better than Nader. If this turns out to be a neck and neck race, maybe Barr would be a spoiler for the Repbulicans by getting even a small margin of votes.

What about Ron Paul? lol Is he on the ticket. I laugh, BUT he has a large number supporters. I've seen them pop up during the primary, even on liberal sites. He did very well considering.

TIS

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #513715
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette


What about Ron Paul?

TIS


I'd sooner vote for RuPaul.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #513721
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"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #513725
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Is Palin now the gaffe machine?

Palin: "Place in Hell Reserved for Women Who Don't Support Other Women"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_131967.html

TIS, you're in trouble! lol

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #513726
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Q: You not only have had combat experience in Vietnam, but you were also a prisoner of war. When you look at terrorism right now, with people like Osama bin Laden, do you have any reservations about watching strikes like that?

John McCain: You could say, Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted? Most of us have never heard of him before. And where there is a parallel with Vietnam is: What's plan B? What do we do next? We sent our troops into Vietnam to protect the bases. Lyndon Johnson said, Only to protect the bases. Next thing you know.... Well, we've declared to the terrorists that we're going to strike them wherever they live. That's fine. But what's next? That's where there might be some comparison.


http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1998/11/vest.html

Speaking of which, you New Yorkers heard of this Bin Laden fellow before?

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #513727
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Madeline Albright said today that that particular comment she made was not referring to politics, and was taken out of context. I haven't heard any further detail. Yea, I think we could let both McCain and Palin go for it. They're doing a "heck of a job" shooting themselves in the foot. lol



TIS.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #513735
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Let's all praise our new Messiah, President-to-Be B. Hussein Obama....


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: AppleOnYa] #513736
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Geez, Apple, you're really grasping at straws there. You must be getting desperate.

Hmmm, you fit right in with the McCain campaign now.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: SC] #513739
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TIS, I'll keep a special place "warm" for you. Klyd and I are going to be down there anyway for making a Karen Carpenter joke earlier in the week.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: AppleOnYa] #513744
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Let's all praise our new Messiah, President-to-Be B. Hussein Obama....



Well at least you've accepted the fact he will be the next President.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #513747
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Madeline Albright said today that that particular comment she made was not referring to politics, and was taken out of context. I haven't heard any further detail. Yea, I think we could let both McCain and Palin go for it. They're doing a "heck of a job" shooting themselves in the foot. lol



TIS.


The actual statement: "There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't help other women."


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #513754
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
What a joke. The Republicans have been in control for how many years?? The Dems finally took the majority less than two years ago, the White House remained Republican, and yet one little housing bill is to blame for the complete and total devastation that has rocked our economy??? Puh-leeze!!



confused


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In truth, and looking at the OVERALL picture of the last 6 years or so, no single party deserves all the blame. Our government, as a whole, along with the banks and the mortgage brokers combined with all the finger pointing from both political parties is what really has caused our economy to go into the shitter!


ohwell



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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: olivant] #513758
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Originally Posted By: olivant


No, you're wrong.


No, you are wrong olivant! The passing of the bill that was pushed through by the dems allowed the office of federal housing enterprise oversight to relax restrictions on the mortgage finance companies investment holdings. It allowed the easing up of, what was once, very strict bookkeeping restrictions. So in turn Fannie and Freddie went out and bought about $15 - $20 Million MORE in subprime mortgages. This was pushed for by the democrats because they wanted to help revive a market that they felt was hindered by very strict lending standards. Not only was this meant to try and help lower income families get mortgages, but it also was meant to allow others to refinance their existing mortgages. With the passing of this bill and the easment of lending restrictions and bookkeeping practices, subprime loans were being given to HIGH RISK borrowers with already shakey credit.



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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: AppleOnYa] #513760
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Let's all praise our new Messiah, President-to-Be B. Hussein Obama....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI


Don't you mean B. HUSSEIN Obama?




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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Don Cardi] #513769
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Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
Originally Posted By: olivant


No, you're wrong.


No, you are wrong olivant! The passing of the bill that was pushed through by the dems allowed the office of federal housing enterprise oversight to relax restrictions on the mortgage finance companies investment holdings. It allowed the easing up of, what was once, very strict bookkeeping restrictions. So in turn Fannie and Freddie went out and bought about $15 - $20 Million MORE in subprime mortgages. This was pushed for by the democrats because they wanted to help revive a market that they felt was hindered by very strict lending standards. Not only was this meant to try and help lower income families get mortgages, but it also was meant to allow others to refinance their existing mortgages. With the passing of this bill and the easment of lending restrictions and bookkeeping practices, subprime loans were being given to HIGH RISK borrowers with already shakey credit.





Try to keep track of what you post. Your post on the previous page that I replied to contained the following:

"... a bill to create a national housing trust fund that would be financed by diverting revenue from......guess where? ....... Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government sponsored mortgage giants!!!"

No such diversion ever took place. It is that part of your post that I quoted above to which I replied.

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: olivant] #513784
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Originally Posted By: olivant


Try to keep track of what you post.


I promise to do so when you start keeping track of constitutional amendments! lol wink j/k


Seriously though, you really need to research about what I shared here in regards to what took place with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. There were a lot of little "added" side ammendments to that bill which at first may have been proposed with good intentions but in reality wound up hurting our economy.



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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: dontomasso] #513792
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Alaska state employees to testify in Palin probe

ANCHORAGE (AP) — Seven Alaska state employees have reversed course and agreed to testify in an abuse-of-power investigation of Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.

There is no indication, however, that Palin or her husband will do the same.

Palin, a fist-term Alaska governor, is the focus of a legislative inquiry into whether she abused her office by firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. Monegan says he was dismissed because he would not fire the governor's former brother-in-law.

Lawmakers subpoenaed seven state employees to testify in the inquiry but they challenged those subpoenas. A judge rejected that challenge last week. Because of that ruling, Alaska Attorney General Talis Colberg says the employees have decided to testify.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Just Lou] #513795
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If I was her I'd want that man fired also. Tazzing his own 10 year old son. He needs to be tazed.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


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My daughter had a history assignment about the election. They were given a packet to read, and then asked questions. The first question asked what makes this election different from any other. I told my daughter that no matter who wins, either the first African-American president or the first female VP will be elected. She told me that this is the first election since the 1950s (I think she said 1952, but I could be wrong) that neither of the candidates is serving as either the current President or VP. Until she said that, it hadn't occurred to me.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #513798
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
My daughter had a history assignment about the election. They were given a packet to read, and then asked questions. The first question asked what makes this election different from any other. I told my daughter that no matter who wins, either the first African-American president or the first female VP will be elected. She told me that this is the first election since the 1950s (I think she said 1952, but I could be wrong) that neither of the candidates is serving as either the current President or VP. Until she said that, it hadn't occurred to me.



Hmmm. That's interesting. I find myself questioning it, thinking back to prove it wrong. lol I guess t just seems like thre must have been that scenario in recent years.

ohwell
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If I was her I'd want that man fired also. Tazzing his own 10 year old son. He needs to be tazed.


Mig, you must know something I don't. confused Who used a taser on their son? Her ex-brother-in-law or his boss?


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It's also the first time in history that two sitting U.S. Senators are going head-to-head.

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Her ex bro-in-law.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


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There are a few facts about the taser incident that aren't mentioned. It was a 'training cartridge' on the lightest setting and alligator clips on the boys shirt were used, instead of the usual skin contacts. The boy had asked to see what it felt like, and Palin's sister, who was present, didn't object.

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Since we are on "firsts", I found this a while back on BHO. smile

June 7 (Bloomberg) -- [i]Barack Obama's political career boasts a long list of firsts. He is the first presumptive presidential nominee to be a native of Hawaii and the president of the Harvard Law Review. He's also the first candidate with more than 1 million contributors.

Obama, an Illinois senator, is the first presumptive presidential nominee in modern times to have a father who wasn't a U.S. citizen, the first to earn an undergraduate degree from Columbia University in New York and the first to have attended Occidental College in Los Angeles.





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