Great, great post, Babe. Let me say that again, GREAT .

Well I don't see the saviors that have the power now doing anything.

I think at this point, the Republicans best chance would be to lobby to lower the voting age to six, then nominate SpongeBob SquarePants, with Barney as his running mate.

Otherwise; say goodnight, Dick. See ya in 2012.

Saviors? You're 100% right, Mignon. You do need a savior to raise THIS economy from the dead. No wonder the Republicans like to refer to Senator Obama as the messiah.

It truly WILL take a miracle to unravel the mess that the Republicans are leaving behind.

Considering your last electoral prediction, I think I'll pass.

I was just being cautious, Ronnie. I'm a bit older than you, and I've seen elections turn on a dime. But this one is looking pretty good right now for Obama.

At another rally, reportedly when McCain was in his speech, saying what should we do with Obama, someone yelled: "Kill him!"

Washington Post also reports this:

Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."

Add that with the "Terrorist" and "Kill'em!" shout-outs....

Is this how McCain wants to be remembered? He wants to be the new George Wallace?

Really, you could tell from that "Terrorist!" shout-out how disturbed he was by it, and yet he did nothing else. Why couldn't he have simply stopped his well-rehearsed speech, and ask people to not say such things. Yes it would come out as hypocritical considering his VP's attack platform, but still.

But Johnny, that was a moment you could have asserted some leadership on the spur of a moment. You could have hit a double, instead you struck out.

Then again, aint that the story of the McCain campaign?

Well keep your dime until November 5.

Al Gore was up 8 in October, and lost the election. ....Oh wait. He didn't really lose the election.

Well keep your dime until November 5. [/quote]

Nah, I can afford it.

Obama gaining in 5 battleground states, polls say

10/07/08
By Alan Silverleib
CNN Senior Political Researcher

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Polls in five key battleground states in the race for the White House released Tuesday suggest that Sen. Barack Obama is making major gains.

The CNN/Time magazine/Opinion Research Corp. polls of likely voters in Indiana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin reflect a significant nationwide shift toward the Democratic presidential nominee.

Obama has made significant strides in New Hampshire, the state credited with reviving Sen. John McCain's Republican primary campaign in both 2000 and 2008.

Fifty-three percent of New Hampshire's likely voters are backing Obama, while 45 percent are supporting McCain. Obama held a lead of 5 percentage points in the last CNN New Hampshire poll, taken in early September. VideoWatch what the poll numbers mean »

Four years ago, Sen. John Kerry narrowly carried New Hampshire -- a one-time GOP stronghold. George W. Bush squeezed out a slender win by 1 percentage point in 2000.

In Indiana, 51 percent of likely voters say McCain is their choice for president, with 46 percent backing Obama, a Democratic senator from neighboring Illinois. Indiana went for Bush by 21 percentage points four years ago; Democrats have not carried Indiana since 1964. See the latest polling

In North Carolina, the two major party nominees are locked in a dead heat, with McCain and Obama each claiming the support of 49 percent of likely voters.

"Obama's strongest region is in the Raleigh/Durham area," said Keating Holland, CNN's polling director. "McCain does best in Charlotte and the surrounding counties."

The last Democrat to carry North Carolina was Jimmy Carter, a Southerner, in 1976. The state's 15 electoral votes are considered critical for any successful Republican presidential campaign.

McCain trails Obama in Ohio; 50 percent of likely voters favor Obama, while 47 percent support the senator from Arizona. No Republican has won the White House without carrying the state.

"McCain has a 6-point lead in the Cincinnati area," Holland said. "But a GOP candidate normally needs to do better than that in southwestern Ohio in order to win the state. And overall, Obama actually has a 2-point edge among suburban communities across the state."

In Wisconsin, which hasn't voted Republican since 1984, Obama is holding a 51 percent to 46 percent lead among likely voters.

"Obama continues to maintain a 'home field advantage' in the southern Wisconsin counties that border Illinois," Holland said. "He has nearly a 30-point lead in the city of Milwaukee, although he loses the Milwaukee suburbs by nearly as large a margin."

The new polls are behind several shifts in the CNN Electoral College map.

CNN is shifting North Carolina from leaning toward McCain to a tossup. CNN is moving Wisconsin and its 10 electoral votes, and New Hampshire and its four electoral votes, from tossup to leaning toward Obama.

Finally, CNN is switching Michigan and its 17 electoral votes from leaning toward Obama to safe for Obama. The McCain campaign announced last week that it was shifting its resources out of the once hotly contested industrial state, instead intensifying efforts in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

With these moves, CNN estimates that if the presidential election were held today, Obama would win states with 264 electoral votes and McCain would carry states with 174 electoral votes, with 100 electoral votes still up for grabs. To win the White House, 270 electoral votes are needed. See CNN's Electoral College map

Obama's lead has expanded by 29 electoral votes in comparison with his margin in CNN's last electoral map, which was released on October 1.

The CNN/Time/Opinion Research polls were conduced October 3-6, with 677 likely voters in Indiana, 813 likely voters in New Hampshire, 666 likely voters in North Carolina, 749 likely voters in Ohio and 859 likely voters in Wisconsin. Respondents were all questioned by telephone.

The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points in New Hampshire, Ohio and Wisconsin, and plus or minus 4 percentage points in Indiana and North Carolina.

Obama a messiah? PUHLEEZE!!

Anyone who can sit in a church pew for 20 some years and listen to such hate coming out of his preachers mouth and not doing nothing about it until recently.

Anyone who has ties to an American terrorist Bill Ayers. That goes against Obama's judgement and character.

Just my feelings might not be yours.

I agree, Miggie. He is hardly a Messiah. Last time I checked there was still only one.

One and only one.

For the past couple of months, I've been going toe-to-toe with a friend of mine who was a strong supporter of McCain. Yesterday, he informed me he isn't voting. He's says "he can't stomach Palin anymore", and McCain "no longer has any message to lead the country". So far, he refuses to vote for Obama, but I'm working on it.

And that will be the difference. The conservatives who can't stand Palin and are on the fence about McCain won't show up to vote.

First off, Obama wasn't there at the infamous "Goddamn America" sermon.

Second, I hate to bring this up Mig but....preachers/priests can be rather fucking crazy. Back when I actually went to church, had a preacher who told us of how supporting the then-upcoming Tennessee Lottery sinful, in that voting for it was "a ticket on the bus to hell."

Better yet, he later told us how that "we Christians are united with the Jews against the Muslims, even if the Jews that won't accept Jesus Christ as their savior will be destroyed on judgment day."

The difference with me and Obama is that I quit that church. Then again, Obama is like George W. Bush unfortunately in terms of the social conservative friends they tend to hang out with.

Hell mig, he's played that piety card more than McCain has, despite that one being the Republican nominee.



I have a neighbor, who occasionally I come upon in my daily walks, who is a Christian Scientist.

Does that make me, by association, a fucking quack?

A non-vote is better than a McCain vote.

These "Bible Belt" family values are making me feel warm and fuzzy all over.

My friend has said some horrible things about Obama, that I won't repeat here. But I'm sure that there's a lot of Americans that have similar feelings about Obama. Just the fact he has those feelings, and yet he can't vote for whomever is running against him, is not good for McCain.

Poll: Obama Gains in States That Went For Bush

By MICHAEL SCHERER / WASHINGTON
Tue Oct 7

On the eve of the penultimate presidential debate, a new TIME/CNN poll shows John McCain still struggling in states won by George W. Bush in 2004, a sign that last week's vice presidential debate had little effect on voter opinion.

In North Carolina, which Bush won by more than 12 percentage points in both 2000 and 2004, McCain and Obama are locked in a dead heat, with each candidate garnering the support of 49% of likely voters. In Indiana, which Bush won by 21 points in 2004 and 16 points in 2000, McCain maintains a slight 5 point lead over Obama, with 51% of likely voters, compared to Obama's 46%.


In the crucial swing state of Ohio, which Bush won by slight margins in both 2000 and 2004, McCain trails Obama by 3 points, with the support of 47% of voters, compared to Obama's 50%. Obama also holds a statistically significant 8 point lead over McCain in New Hampshire and a 5 point lead in Wisconsin, two states that Democrat John Kerry was able to win in 2004.


As a result of the new survey, CNN now considers New Hampshire and Wisconsin to be Obama-leaning states, after previously being considered tossups. North Carolina is now considered a tossup, after previously being categorized as a McCain-leaning state.


The polls were conducted between October 3 and 6, after last Thursday's debate. They have a margin of error of +/- 3.5 to 4 percentage points.


Last week, the McCain campaign reacted to a polling downturn by shuttering its operation in the state of Michigan and redistributing staff to Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Maine, where electoral votes are distributed by congressional district. In a conference call last week, Mike DuHaime, the McCain campaign's political director, acknowledged that the national mood and Obama's deep pockets had put previously solid Republican states like Indiana in play.


"I do think just the overall environment right now that we face is one of the worst environments for any Republican in probably 35 years," DuHaime said. "Any time you have that, you have states move within that margin."


After two grueling years, only two major events remain in the 2008 presidential campaign, a candidate town hall forum Tuesday in Tennessee, and a debate on October 15 in New York. In a nod to the dwindling window of opportunity, McCain again sharpened his attacks on Obama during a stump speech Monday in New Mexico, charging that Obama harbors a "back story" on every issue that needs to be explored.


"All people want to know is: What has this man ever actually accomplished in government? What does he plan for America?" McCain said. "In short: Who is the real Barack Obama? But ask such questions and all you get in response is another barrage of angry insults."


Campaigning in North Carolina, Obama countered by charging that McCain and his aides were "gambling that they can distract you with smears rather than talk to you about substance."

Obama win preferred in world poll

People outside the US would prefer Barack Obama to become US president ahead of John McCain, a BBC World Service poll suggests.

Democrat Mr Obama was favoured by a four-to-one margin across the 22,500 people polled in 22 countries.

In 17 countries, the most common view was that US relations with the rest of the world would improve under Mr Obama.

If Republican Mr McCain were elected, the most common view was that relations would remain about the same.

The poll was conducted before the Democratic and Republican parties held their conventions and before the headline-grabbing nomination of Sarah Palin as Mr McCain's running mate.

BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus says the results could therefore be a reflection of the greater media focus on Mr Obama as he competed for the presidential candidacy against Hillary Clinton.

The margin of those in favour of Mr Obama winning November's US election ranged from 9% in India to 82% in Kenya, which is the birthplace of the Illinois senator's father.

On average 49% preferred Mr Obama to 12% in favour of Mr McCain. Nearly four in 10 of those polled did not take a view.

On average 46% thought US relations with the world would improve with Mr Obama in the White House, 22% that ties would stay the same, while seven per cent expected relations to worsen.

Only 20% thought ties would get better if Mr McCain were in the Oval Office.

The expectation that a McCain presidency would improve US relations with the world was the most common view, by a modest margin, only in China, India and Nigeria.

But across the board, the largest number - 37% - thought relations under a president McCain would stay the same, while 16% expected them to deteriorate.

In no country did most people think that a McCain presidency would worsen relations.

Oddly, in Turkey more people thought US relations would worsen with an Obama presidency than under Mr McCain, even though most Turks polled preferred Mr Obama to win.

In Egypt, Lebanon, Russia and Singapore, the predominant expectation was that relations would remain the same if Mr Obama won the election.

The countries most optimistic that an Obama presidency would improve ties were US Nato allies - Canada (69%), Italy (64%), France (62%), Germany (61%), and the UK (54%) - as well as Australia (62%), along with Kenya (87%) and Nigeria (71%).

When asked whether the election as president of the African-American Mr Obama would "fundamentally change" their perception of the US, 46% said it would while 27% said it would not.

The US public was polled separately and Americans also believed an Obama presidency would improve US ties with the world more than a McCain presidency.

Forty-six per cent of Americans expected relations to get better if Mr Obama were elected and 30% if Mr McCain won the White House.

A similar poll conducted for BBC World Service ahead of the 2004 US presidential election found most countries would have preferred to see Democratic nominee John Kerry beat the incumbent George W Bush.

At the time, the Philippines, Nigeria and Poland were among the few countries to favour Mr Bush's re-election. All three now favour Mr Obama over Mr McCain.

In total 22,531 citizens were polled in Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Panama, the Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, Turkey, the UAE and the UK. A parallel survey was conducted with 1,000 US adults.

He wouldn't have done nothing about him if the story never came out.



I agree with you. But If my preacher was spewing such bullshit out of his mouth I would be outta there so quick your head would spin.



No But you aren't running for President.

Which candidate gave full throated support to an organization presently advocating Secession by a state from the Union?

Newest Obama Ad:

So the McCain campaign's answer for overtaking Obama's lead is to dig up old attacks that Hillary tried and failed miserably at? Attacks McCain himself previously condemned in such high-minded terms?

This would make McCain's Reverend Hagee and the Palin's Kenyan witch hunter now fair game. Or when didn't Palin sat -- and NOT get up and leave -- during a sermon that declared terrorist attacks on Israeli citizens to be God visiting judgment upon the Jews? She sat through a blatantly anti-semetic sermon. What does that say about her character?



Obama was 8 when Ayers was a radical (now a former anti-war extremist who long ago changed his ways) and didn't know him. OTOH McCain was 58 when he hung around with good buddy and major rip-off artist Charles Keating.

Who cares about the economy? I certainly don't. Two wars? Meh. What I really want to hear more about is Obama's distant associations. That's going to make the difference in my life how he suddenly does a Vulcan mind meld and appropriates the past lives and thoughts of everyone he comes in contact with.

My favorite ad of the year so far. Agree or not, vote or not for Obama, his campaign have been undisputedly the kings of the campaign commercial so far this fall:

"A Fly on the Wall..."

Look, I can understand people being upset about the Senator's association with Reverend Wright. He was his pastor. The Obama Family christened their children in his church. Why they didn't leave the church is a personal decision. Perhaps they felt that our Constitution protected their pastor's right to say what he wants about the imperfections of this country. That's what it's there for.

As for his association with Ayers, c'mon, Mig, you can't be that easily influenced. Senator Obama was EIGHT years old when Ayers was committing his crimes. They served on a non-profit board together, they live in the same neighborhood and their children go to the same school. I serve on the board of the Music Parent's Association at my daughter's school. I haven't done a background check on the other members or asked them what they were up to 40 years ago. If I decided to run for local office and one of them offered to host a "Meet the Candidate" night at their home, would I hesitate? NO, and neither should have Obama. It's patently absurd to say that this association means that Senator Obama "pals around with terrorists". It's demeaning to him and to the American public.

As for your remark about Ronnie not needing to worry about his neighbors because he's not running for President, do you realize how silly that sounds?? You have to worry about who lives next to you before you can think about running for President?? WHAT??????

As for calling Senator Obama a messiah, you can thank the McCain campaign for that. They're the ones that "christened" him that, not me.

Women Voters Prefer Hillary Clinton to Sarah Palin in 2012 By a 2-to-1 Margin

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/women-voters-prefer-hillary-clinton/story.aspx?guid=%7B202417EF-4CBF-4FF5-895B-BFC98CF6D3FA%7D&dist=hppr