Fox News Poll:

Who won the second presidential debate in Nashville?

Obama 60%
McCain 40%

I have Fox News on right now and it says:

Obama 12%
McCain 86%

Now I have to wonder how many of your other polls have been wrong.

And RRA, to call McCain a "dick" is just wrong. grow up

http://elections.foxnews.com/

...And it's now

Obama 62%
McCain 38%

Well the fact that the poll shown on the tv is completely opposite just goes to show how irrelevant these polls are.

You're right. As a grown-up, I shake hands with other adults.

"There are lies, damn lies, and statistics" - Harry Truman

A handshake and a hug!

I thought it was kind of odd that McCain would tap Obama on the back, and then refuse to shake his hand.

He was just getting his attention for Cindy.

potential voter fraud

I saw the handshake (or lack thereof) and wondered what that was about as well.

I figured when he said "That One" that it would get blown out of proportion because it's a weird thing to say.

Other than that, pretty boring. Lots of finger pointing and stalling and wasting time.

You call yourself a writer??

I didn't get to see the debate, but from what I read here and from what I see on tv now (the excerpts from the debate) it looks like I didn't miss much.

You didn't. I have to say that I have paid more attention to this presidential campaign than any other I can think of, even the 2004 election. However, I had to struggle to stay awake through most of it, a struggle I eventually lost.

They both seemed to care more about scoring points off of one another than answering the questions. Two points stood out for me:

When Senator McCain was talking about the economy and said that the American people were "probably a little scared". Gee, you THINK?? I would imagine that many of the American people are pooping in their pants right about now!!!

When Senator Obama said to one of the people in the audience who asked a question, "But you want to know more about...not hear us go back and forth." I wanted to smack him on the back of the head.

The American people are scared, lots of them may be hungry, a few of them may be on the verge of being homeless, and they want someone to shine a light on their lives. BOTH candidates had the opportunity to do so last night and failed, IMO. I don't believe that either of them was aggressive enough.

Looking for Halloween costumes online I came across these masks:

Zombama Zombie
McBrain Zombie

Hellary Zombie

They are all good, but that Hillary one is really scarey.


TIS

Back to the debate, I wanted to hear more about Social Security. Btw, They had a segment on foreign policy, which was the topic of the last debate???

Anyway, one more debate to go. I saw a poll where they asked people if a debate has ever changed their minds as to whom they will vote for. A large majority said "no."

TIS

Yeah, that one will give me nightmares now. Thanks Mig!

From a Colorado focus group:

Even more dramatic was the shift in the voters’ personal reactions to the two candidates. Before the debate, McCain had a 48/46 favorability rating; that improved to 56/36 by the end. But that’s about where Obama started the evening—54/36. After an hour and a half, Obama’s favorability numbers were 80/14. As Joe Biden would say, let me repeat that: 80% of the undecided voters had favorable views of Obama and only 14% saw him negatively for a net rating of +66. Not even Bill Clinton got such a warm response in town hall formats.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/10/they_liked_him_they_really_lik.html

Well, I really gotta run, but one more topic for disussion. Do you think these polls are anywhere close to being "right?" In particular, I'm referring to this "Bradley Affect" which I really only heard about since Obama was in the running? Do you sense that it's different today then it was then? Even tho, yes, we know some simply won't vote for a black man. Just wondering. What "if" McCain ended winning by a fairly decent margin. Wouldn't you conclude that must be the reason for the polls inaacuracies?

Gotta go.


TIS

TIS,

I think we saw the "Bradley Effect" as recently as the Democratic primaries, where Obama was leading in the polls in Mass. and Ca. on primary morning, but Hillary won both handily. So mixed feelings about race still obviously exist for some people.

BUT, at this point, I don't think it will be enough to steer the election away from Obama.

It is interesting that we are hearing a lot about this and about whether white people will really go into the voing booth and pull the lever from the Obama camp. I think it is a strategy to innoculate people from having that problem. After last night's debate he solidified the notion that he can be the president, and with a month to go he needs to continue to appear "presidential," thus allowing the idea of his inevitability to become a reality.

Well, Obama certainly does look Presidential, Don T.

MCCain just looks . . . constipated . . . like he ate too many bananas.

I know you'll get this reference, Pizza Boy: "George likes his bananas. Then let him have them on the side!"


Last night, McCain looked like a bitter, old man. While I share the fears that when push comes to shove, some racists will not pull the lever for Obama, I do believe that McCain has turned off plenty of undecides with his responses from last night. Particularly the "that one" comment and the answers regarding the economy.

I also think that enough new Obama supporters have been registered (2:1 in some swing states) to overcome the rednecks, biggots, and white supremists who simply will not vote for any black candidate. I think the turnout of the new voters will be stronger than in previous elections.

He's starting to remind me of one of the guys that Walter Matthau might've played later in his career.

Hey, it's a movie website. Just making an analogy. Which begs the question; does Denzel get to play Obama?

Dear God, I do love Denzel.

Anyway, I thought that McCain's response on fixing Social Security was underwhelming. We know what to do and it's easy?? Are you kidding me?? If it's so easy, why hasn't anyone DONE IT???

Did I hear McCain say he was going to pay my mortgage?

Well, he owns so many houses, maybe he thought yours was one of his.

All those houses are tough for these multi-millionaires to keep track of.

I understand that the basic question was unfair to ask him, mostly because some of the homes are investments his wife made, they have lots of assets, etc., BUT he does have to realize that it was quite possibly one of the most stupid answers ever given. How does his campaign have the nerve to refer to Obama as elitist after that answer??

Some people believe race could cost Obama as much as 6 points in the election, and it is the great unknown whether or not it is showing in the polls. On the positive sign for Obama, all signs points to a huge voter turnout for him, which will probably more than offset the 6 point race factor, should it happen.