What media out there doesn't lean to the left besides Fox?

Anyone who is still undecided, see below and beware.

Any Conservatives/Independents who are smart enough to know what's at stake...see below and GET THE WORD OUT.

Any far leaning lefties who truly believe they are making the right choice...you are fools and not worth wasting precious time.

Best,
AppleOnYa

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Pat Buchanan
Oct. 17, 2008

As Americans render ... judgment on George Bush, are they aware of the radical course correction they are about to make?

This center-right country is about to vastly strengthen a liberal Congress whose approval rating is 10 percent and implant in Washington a regime further to the left than any in U.S. history. Consider.

As of today, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the San Francisco Democrat, anticipates gains of 15-30 seats. Sen. Harry Reid, whose partisanship grates even on many in his own party, may see his caucus expand to a filibuster-proof majority where he can ignore Republican dissent.

Headed for the White House is the most left-wing member of the Senate, according to the National Journal. To the VP's mansion is headed Joe Biden, third most liberal as ranked by the National Journal...

What will this mean to America? An administration that is either at war with its base or at war with the nation.

America may desperately desire to close the book on the Bush presidency. Yet there is, as of now, no hard evidence it has embraced Obama, his ideology, or agenda. Indeed, his campaign testifies, by its policy shifts, that it is fully aware the nation is still resisting the idea of an Obama presidency....

Obama's convention put him eight points up. But, as soon as America heard Sarah Palin in St. Paul, the Republicans shot up 10 points and seemed headed for victory.

What brought about the Obama-Biden resurgence was nothing Obama and Biden did, but the mid-September crash of Fannie, Freddie, Lehman Brothers, AIG, the stock market...and John McCain's classically inept handling of the crisis.

In short, Obama has still not closed the sale. Every time America takes a second look at him, it has second thoughts, and backs away...Obama knows Middle America harbors deep suspicions of him. Thus, he has jettisoned the rhetoric about the "fierce urgency of now," and "We are the people we've been waiting for," even as he has jettisoned position after position to make himself acceptable.

His "flip-flops" testify most convincingly to the fact that Obama knows that where he comes from is far outside the American mainstream...

Thus, though he is the nominee of a party that is in thrall to the environmental movement, Obama has signaled conditional support for offshore drilling and pumping out of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

While holding to his pledge for a pullout of combat brigades from Iraq in 16 months, he has talked of "refining" his position and of a residual U.S. force to train the Iraqi Army and deal with Al Qaeda.

On Afghanistan, he has called for 10,000 more troops and U.S. strikes in Pakistan to kill Bin Laden, even without prior notice or the permission of the Pakistani government.

Since securing the nomination, Obama has adopted the Scalia position on the death penalty for child rape and the right to keep a handgun in the home. He voted to give the telecoms immunity from prosecution for colluding in Bush wiretaps. This onetime sympathizer of the Palestinians now does a passable imitation of Ariel Sharon.

No Democrat has ever come out of the far left of his party to win the presidency. McGovern, the furthest left, stayed true to his convictions and lost 49 states.

Obama has chosen another course. Though he comes out of the McGovern-Jesse Jackson left, he has shed past positions like support for partial birth abortion as fast as he has shed past associations, from William Ayers to ACORN, from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright to his fellow parishioners at Trinity United.

One question remains: Will a President Obama, with his party in absolute control of both Houses, revert to the politics and policies of the Left that brought him the nomination, or resist his ex-comrades' demands that he seize the hour and impose the agenda ACORN, Ayers, Jesse, and Wright have long dreamed of?

Whichever way he decides, he will be at war with them, or at war with us. If Barack wins, a backlash is coming.

I read as far as

and knew I needed to read no farther.

MSNBC?

But what about his evolved views on:

Gays: "Someone's values are going to prevail. Why not ours? Whose country is it, anyway? Whose moral code says we may interfere with a man's right to be a practicing bigot, but must respect and protect his right to be a practicing sodomite?"

Guns: "The Second Amendment guarantees the individual right to own, possess, and use personal firearms, and as President I will ensure that this right is not compromised. People convicted of violent crime should forfeit their right to own firearms, but sportsmen, hunters, & law-abiding Americans should be allowed to use guns for pleasure or personal or family safety. Private ownership of guns gives citizens of this free republic the means to protect life, liberty and property -- and I will fully & faithfully protect that right."

Race: "Any man or any woman, of any color or creed, can be a good American. We know that from our history. But when it comes to the ability to assimilate into a nation like the United States, all nationalities, creeds, and cultures are not equal. To say that is ideology speaking, not judgment born out of experience."

Adolf Hitler: "An individual of great courage...Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path."

Israel: "The Israelis want this war desperately because they want the United States to destroy the Iraqi war machine. They want us to finish them off. They don't care about our relations with the Arab world."

To point out just a few. So yeah, if Pat Buchanan wrote it, it must make sense.

Current National Polls as of 10/18/2008:

The media is leans so far right it's sickening Yea, there are some Left leaning, some way leftleaning but IMHO generally speaking it's way way way rightwing. Think about it. We heard all about Obama's Rev.Wright; Did the media cover Palin's witchdoctor episode? NO

"If" Obama had a pregnant unmarried daughter don't even try to tell me the media wouldn't be shouting "disgrace" from the mountaintops. Palin's daughter gets a pass that Obama's would not.

Barely did they touch the "Keating Five". We can't criticize McCain (he's a war hero ya know) BUT get all over Obama for Ayers story.

A while back there was a story about McCain having an affair with a campaign woker. True or not true, IF it were Obama, he'd be front and center headlines. I challenge anyone to say it's not the case. I am sure "they" are still searching for dirt as we speak.

If it were Obama who left his first "ill" wife and was carrying on with his current, you bet your ass the media would be covering it and the right would express their self-righteous phony outrage.

If Obama's rally's were inciting the hate (I'm not talking pidly stuff like NoBama or McBush type stuff..I'm talking hate) The media would be right there front and center.

Let's not even get into how the media has been kissing GWB's ass for 8 years, giving him a free ride (along ith the ball-less Congress). People call it leftwing because the rightwing is so good at what they do in bullshitting people.

TIS

Obama draws record crowd of 100,000 in St. Louis

Posted October 18, 2008 1:23 PM


by John McCormick

ST. LOUIS - Standing under the Gateway Arch, Sen. Barack Obama spoke this afternoon before a crowd his campaign said totaled 100,000, a new U.S. record for his presidential bid.
"All I can say is wow," Obama said as he took the stage, his home state behind his back across the Mississippi River.

The Illinois Democrat had in May attracted about 75,000 to an event in Portland, Ore., before that state's primary election. In Berlin, he drew more than 200,000 during a foreign trip in July.

The campaign provided a name and number for a St. Louis police officer to verify the estimate. He could not be immediately reached.

In the first of two Missouri stops today, Obama misspoke at one point, mentioning where he will be this evening instead of where he was this afternoon. "If we can rebuild Baghdad, we can rebuild Kansas City," he said.

Obama also defended his tax cut proposals, which Sen. John McCain had criticized earlier in the day during a stop in North Carolina.

"John McCain is so out of touch with the struggles you are facing, he must be the first politician in history to call a tax cut for working people 'welfare.'" Obama said. "George Bush and John McCain are out of ideas, they are out of touch, and if you stand with me in 17 days they'll be out of time."

Every four years, Missouri commands attention because of its bellwether status. It has voted for every presidential winner since 1900, with the exception of 1956.

And a CNN/Time/Opinion Research poll released earlier this week showed Obama and McCain in a virtual tie in the state.

As a resident from a neighboring state, including one that shares a major media market with Illinois, has also offered Obama advantages in Missouri.

His campaign said this was his seventh trip to Missouri since he secured the nomination. McCain, meanwhile, is schedule to stop in the state on Monday.

The ability of Obama to give attention to Missouri so just more than two weeks before Election Day stands in stark contrast to Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic nominee who had virtually conceded Missouri at this point in his campaign.

As it has in other states, economic stress in Missouri has boosted Obama's campaign here, as voters express strong frustration with the nation's current direction.

If he is to win the state, Obama will need to boost turnout in the urban centers of St. Louis and Kansas City to counter the state's strong base of conservative evangelicals.

Obama's campaign, however, has been aggressively registering new voters, especially in the major urban centers of St. Louis and Kansas City, where it hopes to dramatically increase voter turnout.

"We are going to break every turnout record in Missouri and this nation," said Rep. William Lacy Clay, a Missouri congressman who was part of Obama's warm up act.

Clay and others cautioned voters waiting to hear Obama to be aware of potential polling place problems, while offering a toll free number for those who have trouble casting their votes.

Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri said she expects her state's outcome to be close because of its tradition that "sometimes a one-point victory in Missouri is called a landslide."

McCaskill also criticized Republican running mate and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for a comment she made this week about campaigning in "pro-America" places.

"We have reached a new low in American politics when someone dares to say that one part of America is more pro-American than another part of America," McCaskill countered.

Even before Obama secured his party's nomination, he started making trips into the state, including one in May where he met with workers in Cape Girardeau, the boyhood home of conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh.

"We're going to spend a lot of time in Missouri making sure we win this state," Obama said during that stop.

Everything is still looking good for Obama. He is sooo right telling everyone not to get "cocky" BUT, am I the only one that thinks there is a "chance" that this election could be, dare I say the "L" word?????? I know, I know!!! This is so different though. I have a gut feeling.

I do believe on election day, we will get a fairly good idea when they start showing voting turnout.

All that aside, as far as the electoral votes go, all the sources show Obama with close to or more than the 270 (some 300). According to Chuck Todd and others McCain simply must", not only keep the states that Bush won, but steal at least one of the blue states from Obama.

With early/absentee voting starting already (I voted last week), I doubt they have a planned "October surprise" But that doesn't mean that shit can't heppen (that's where we try not to get too cocky)

TIS

With Obama being black, I wouldn't put any money on what is going to happen in the end. All indications are that Obama could double McCain's Electoral Vote.

It's okay, TIS. Put it in the books; this one's over.

My advice to the right leaning, inbred, trailer dwellers, who continually lower the national average on IQ points: Enjoy your guns and religion now, Suckeeeeerrrrrrrrs.

If you would have told me a year ago that I would turn into a full blown Obama supporter, I would not have believed you.

I really don't like the electoral votes trumping the popular votes BUT wouldn't it be a kick in the ass for the Republicans IF McCain won the popular vote and Obama the electoral votes? Paybacks can be a mutha!!!! (I feel safe in saying, that's not gonna happen)


TIS

I didn't say I was upset, or that it was outrageous -- I was just pointing out a subtlety in wording. If the article talks about a 2-point change in the polls, then the headline should reflect that fact -- not simply saying so-and-so's leading in the polls.

Me too, Lou. I think the protracted battle against Hillary is what really endeared him to me. I still HATE the Clintons.

I never hated the Clintons. In fact, I probably was leaning towards Hillary when it was a 3 person race. After 8 years of Bush, I probably would have voted for anyone running as a Democrat. I just didn't think I'd be enthusiastically voting for anyone.

Who's leading is all that matters.

Unbiased reporting should matter, too.


But meh. I don't know who I'm voting for, like many others across the States. But at least I, for one, don't fall for that shit. May the best man win! (I just wish the best man was running, too -- whoever that might be)

Not sure what I would have done. I know I couldn't have voted for her, but would I be willing to throw away a vote on an independent nutball like Ralph Nader? That's the question.

I had never heard of Obama until his speech at the Dem convention in 04. I remember asking myself, "who is this guy?" When he was considering running for President, I knew who he was and took interest in what he had to say.

Bottom line, for me anyway, is I haven't felt this much hope or excitement in a Presidential election since JFK. That hope/change feeling is here again. I was too young to vote for JFK, but even at 12 I felt the excitement he brought about.

Anyway, I don't look for any benefits for he first 4 years, as far as noticing change. I think to dig us out of this mess we are in, it'll take at least one term for us to notice and real change, but let's hope that our new President can get the country back on it's feet again.

TIS

McCain and Palin today accused Obama for being directly responsible for the attacks on "Sam the non-Plumber", and the fact the media won't leave him alone. Excuse me, but it was McCain that decided that this guy would be the center of his campaign for the last 3 weeks. I guess the media shouldn't have reported the guy isn't a licensed plumber, owes back taxes, and only makes $40K a year.

I don't think 99.9% of the people ever heard of him until that 04 speech. I remember before the speech, the commentators stating how "Obama was going to electrify the convention, and we would be seeing him running for national office in the near future".

Stop, TIS. You know you weren't 12 until the Reagan administration; probably his second term.

Oh, you are so nice PB. Where do I send the check???

Slightly off topic, back to JFK. He sparked my political interest actually. I was at a Catholic school at the time (which consisted of about 50 kids total). JFK's motorcade came down the street. Needless to say the nuns/Priests were all jazzed at the thought of the first Catholic President. Even at a young age, I watched some of his speeches, was drawn to his sense of humor and charm. Anyway, what a thrill to wave as he sat atop the seat of the car. That day I purchased a JFK pin for $1.00 (must have been at least two weeks allowance) . My mom was pissed off that I "wasted" my allowance. Deep down though, I was glad I did.

TIS

Who are you kidding? You voted for Johnson.

Andrew Johnson.

Hey, where'd you come from??? You watch how you talk to your elders. You're not to old to get whooped boy!!!


TIS

TIS, that reminds me of a "mock" election that I voted in while I was in the 4th grade. In November 1968, in a student election at Our Lady of Mount Carmel school, on Bathgate Avenue in the Bronx, a nine year old Pizzaboy "voted" for, gasp, Richard M. Nixon.

*49 year old Pizzaboy hangs his head in shame.*

Sorry, Mrs. T.

To SC, in my Ms. T voice, "I pity the fool"


I'm looking for coverage/story on the 100,000 crowd in St. Louis Mo. That's gotta be some kind of record no? Our "lefty" media doesn't seem to be covering it much though.


TIS

NOTE: I had to go Daily Kos, a Leftwing blog, to find pics, but here is what 100,000 people look like. Continue to scroll down for pics. The picture I posted is from Huffington Post.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/18/12630/064/131/634471

Incredible.

Here's another pic: