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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: DE NIRO]
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10/03/08 06:31 AM
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The Blade Itself I just finished the First Law Trilogy by first time British writer Joe Abercrombie. It's amazing to me that a debut writer can create something that fully deserves to be mentioned along with giants like George Martin, Simon Green, Moorcock and Tolkien. Best trilogy I've read in years. The trilogy is in a fantasy setting in a world not dissimilar to our own. But that's where similarities to other writers stop. Abercrombie is one of the most shockingly original writers today. As one reviewer wrote "You could compare him to Dickens but Dickens was never this entertaining". Another reviewer talks about the "Scorsese like characters", which is also completely valid. There are characters who make Joe Pesci's Tommy look like a pussycat. Abercrombie's interest is in real characters, not washed out worlds or magic systems. The closest comparison I can think to what George Martin has done in his "Song of Fire and Ice" series but frankly Abercrombie's writing flows better and is much better edited. And no one writes better action or battle scenes. The first book of the Trilogy, " The Blade Itself" introduces most of the main characters. It takes place at a time when the world's oldest empire, the Union, is under attack by enemies from North and South and is rotting from the inside from corruption. There is Inquisitor Glotka, a loyal servant of the Union who seeks to ferret out dissent or treachery and has few scruples at how he does this. Glotka himself was tortured years ago in a war. Glotka used to be quite the dashing hero and now looks so bad he makes children run and hide. There is Colonel West, a Union Army officer, who is lowborn and has to deal with the contempt of noble officers who hate taking orders from him. There is Captain Jezal, another officer who is West's friend but is more interested in West's sister. Jezal is totally lazy and only has his position because of noble birth. There is Bayaz, a friendly but quick tempered old wizard (or con man) who claims to be the wizard who helped establish the Union centuries ago. Bayaz never seems to tell anyone the full story. Finally there is Logen Ninefingers, a wild barbarian leader from the north who's famously killed more men than the plague. Having fallen out with his king, Logen and his merry band of killers head south to offer service to the Union. Like William Munny in "Unforgiven" Logen has done horrible things in the past and spends a lot of time denying them, playing them down or saying he's not like that any more. On the other hand you DON'T want to make him angry... The book is full of sarcastic asides, black humor and irony. Abercrombie is a master of misdirection. This is NOT a trilogy where things are nicely sewn up, the good guys all win or people behave in ways that don't make sense. People all behave in their own interest, just like real life. If you are at all interested in fantasy or even just good stories, I strongly recommend starting the first book, " The Blade Itself". Truly incredible writer. http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Itself-First-Law-Book/dp/159102594X
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"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Lilo]
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10/03/08 10:08 PM
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Game of Shadows Mark Fainaru-Wada & Lance Williams 298 pgs.
If after having read this book you have any doubt whatsoever that Barry Bonds not only used steroids but used them like no other player could, there is something seriously wrong with you. Other players of note to have used steroids according to this extremely well researched and well written book: Jose Canseco, Jason Giambi, Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, Benito Santiago, Gary Sheffield and Sammy Sosa. Other minor stars and many track athletes including Marion Jones were implicated.
The book makes Victor Conte (the brain behind the Bay Area Laboratory Cooperative) out to be a very intelligent and charismatic man who through laziness and poor judgement made the wrong decision.
MLB, the Players Association and the players all knew exactly what time it was but nothing was done until political pressure was applied and the farce became too clearly apparent to even the most casual of fans.
If you're a fan of the game and are intrigued by Barry Bonds and what drove him to the height of irrationality then Game of Shadows is most definitely worth a read.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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10/17/08 02:11 PM
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Life of Pi This book was pretty good and is filled with a lot of discussion on different religions and science. The Mutt: How To Skateboard And Not Kill Yourself This is the true story about pro skateboarder Rodney Mullens early life and skateboarding career. I would reccomend it especially if you're a fan of skating.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Blake]
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10/30/08 11:12 PM
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The Mutt: How To Skateboard And Not Kill Yourself This is the true story about pro skateboarder Rodney Mullens early life and skateboarding career. I would reccomend it especially if you're a fan of skating. Rodney Mullen has always been my favorite skater. I might have to check this one out.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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11/15/08 11:42 PM
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We just finished up reading "A Confederacy of Dunces" by John Kennedy Toole in my English class, and I was wondering if anyone else here has read it or heard of it? It's a really funny book, while also very weird. The main character, Ignatius Reilly, does nothing at all to appeal to anyone, yet I see him as one of the most loveable characters I've read. He's a disgusting and rude hypocrite, yet also hysterical. Ignatius: Going by the picture it looks like a childrens book. College teachings these days...  What is the book about Gina? EDIT: Are you sure that isn't one of the Super Mario Bros. in the picture?
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"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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11/15/08 11:49 PM
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Haha, the picture is what's on the cover of the book, and since I thought he looked like an Italian, I kept expecting someone to tease me about being related to him.  Ignatius is in his thirties, but he still lives at home with his mom, doing writings about why the society he lives in is so horrible. He feels he should've been born in the medieval times, and he has this ongoing war with this girl he met in college, who is just as extreme as him, but has completely opposite views. Anyway, it's just about his adventures in trying to get (and hold) a job, living in New Orleans - and it's so funny because everything he complains about and insults other people on, is often what he himself is guilty of. It's very odd, but I really liked it. I think it was more of a personal favorite for my professor, because it didn't really connect with anything else we've studied in the course. haha
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Blibbleblabble]
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11/15/08 11:56 PM
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In all seriousness, I just finished reading 
 He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: ginaitaliangirl]
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11/16/08 12:03 AM
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It sounds good Gina, I'll pick it up too
 He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Santino Brasi]
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11/16/08 12:05 AM
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In all seriousness, I just finished reading Deuce, are you a fan of Stephen King? I would recommend The Stand if you haven't read it already. Read the unabridged edition. It's long, but one of the best Good vs. Evil books I've ever read.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Blibbleblabble]
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11/16/08 12:07 AM
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The Shining is the first Steven King book I have read, and it was GREAT... I will defiantly get The Stand, Blibble
 He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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11/16/08 12:13 AM
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The reason I never read any Steven king books was because I watched the movie IT and is scared the Bejeebus outta me, I watched it when I was like... 8, because my mom was watching it
 He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Santino Brasi]
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11/16/08 12:47 AM
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The reason I never read any Steven king books was because I watched the movie IT and is scared the Bejeebus outta me, I watched it when I was like... 8, because my mom was watching it I watched IT not to long ago and it scared the crap out of me.
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