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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: goombah]
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11/03/08 01:43 PM
11/03/08 01:43 PM
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 13,145 East Tennessee
ronnierocketAGO
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On a pressing issue....Baggy Pants: "I think people passing a law against people wearing sagging pants is a waste of time. We should be focused on creating jobs, improving our schools, health care, dealing with the war in Iraq, and anybody, any public official, that is worrying about sagging pants probably needs to spend some time focusing on real problems out there. Having said that, brothers should pull up their pants. You are walking by your mother, your grandmother, your underwear is showing. What's wrong with that? Come on. There are some issues that we face, that you don't have to pass a law, but that doesn't mean folks can't have some sense and some respect for other people and, you know, some people might not want to see your underwear — I'm one of them." - Obama http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: svsg]
#518655
11/03/08 02:30 PM
11/03/08 02:30 PM
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Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 5,602 Yunkai
afsaneh77
Mother of Dragons
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Mother of Dragons

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I like the tuesday/wednesday one. And again, most importantly, vote for McCain. Who doesn't want to see Palin on TV for the next four years? (The question was directed towards the men  ) Hey, are you an alien who ate svsg? What did you do with him? Talk! Talk! 
"Fire cannot kill a dragon." -Daenerys Targaryen, Game of Thrones
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: goombah]
#518656
11/03/08 02:35 PM
11/03/08 02:35 PM
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Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 11,797 Pennsylvania
klydon1
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Joined: Apr 2006
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SVSG
I know that I am in the minority, but I don't think Palin is "all that." Compared to other female politicans, she's attractive, but she's not "hot" or even "beautiful" IMO. I personally think McCain's wife is much better looking than Palin. And McCain's wife is a good decade older than Palin. One thing that ruins it for me about Palin is that voice. It is like nails on a chalkboard for me. That's not even considering what comes out of it, which I fundamentally disagree with anyway.
I have to go with Sarah over Cindy. It's like picking Mary Ann over Ginger (which I also go with). I agree she's not glamorous, but she is a wholesome-looking, pretty lady with a nice natural smile. While I'm voting for Obama and like Biden, I always get a strange feeling when Biden's smiling, he's trying to sell me life insurance.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
#518663
11/03/08 03:27 PM
11/03/08 03:27 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 8,389 Staten Island / New Jersey
Just Lou
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Here they are. The final polls. We'll find out tomorrow if they're correct. The one poll that stands out is the Minnesota poll. All the other polls last week have Obama up +11 to +19 in Minnesota. This poll released today says Obama +3.
Florida Reuters/Zogby Obama 48, McCain 46 Obama +2
Florida PPP (D) Obama 50, McCain 48 Obama +2
Florida Quinnipiac Obama 47, McCain 45 Obama +2
Georgia PPP (D) McCain 50, Obama 48 McCain +2
Georgia SurveyUSA McCain 52, Obama 45 McCain +7
Indiana Reuters/Zogby McCain 49, Obama 44 McCain +5
Minnesota SurveyUSA Obama 49, McCain 46 Obama +3
Missouri Reuters/Zogby McCain 46, Obama 47 Obama +1
Missouri FOX News/Rasmussen McCain 49, Obama 49 Tie
Missouri SurveyUSA McCain 48, Obama 48 Tie
Montana PPP (D) McCain 47, Obama 48 Obama +1
National Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Obama 51, McCain 44 Obama +7
National Diageo/Hotline Obama 50, McCain 45 Obama +5
National Gallup Obama 55, McCain 44 Obama +11
National Marist Obama 53, McCain 44 Obama +9
National FOX News Obama 50, McCain 43 Obama +7
National Rasmussen Reports Obama 52, McCain 46 Obama +6
National NBC News/Wall St. Obama 51, McCain 43 Obama +8
National GWU/Battleground Obama 50, McCain 44 Obama +6
Nevada Reuters/Zogby Obama 51, McCain 43 Obama +8
North Carolina Reuters/Zogby McCain 49, Obama 48 McCain +1
North Carolina PPP (D) McCain 49, Obama 50 Obama +1
North Carolina FOX/Rasmussen McCain 50, Obama 49 McCain +1
Ohio PPP (D) Obama 50, McCain 48 Obama +2
Ohio FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 49, McCain 49 Tie
Ohio Reuters/Zogby Obama 50, McCain 44 Obama +6
Ohio SurveyUSA Obama 48, McCain 46 Obama +2
Ohio Quinnipiac Obama 50, McCain 43 Obama +7
Ohio Univ of Cinci/Ohio Poll Obama 52, McCain 46 Obama +6
Pennsylvania PPP (D) Obama 53, McCain 45 Obama +8
Pennsylvania Reuters/Zogby Obama 54, McCain 40 Obama +14
Pennsylvania Morning Call Obama 52, McCain 46 Obama +6
Pennsylvania Quinnipiac Obama 52, McCain 42 Obama +10
Virginia Reuters/Zogby Obama 51, McCain 45 Obama +6
Virginia FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 51, McCain 47 Obama +4
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: goombah]
#518667
11/03/08 04:04 PM
11/03/08 04:04 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 8,389 Staten Island / New Jersey
Just Lou
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Joined: Aug 2002
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'Joe the Plumber' Plans Life After 2008 Election.
Joe Wurzelbacher plans to use his newfound fame for the greater good, he says, opening up a charitable group that is built on "American values."
FOXNews.com
Monday, November 03, 2008
Joe the Plumber is short on cash and unemployed but that's not stopping him from opening a new charitable foundation and penning a book on American values.
"I got no financial offers. I am broke," Joe Wurzelbacher said Monday, explaining that he's got a few ideas on how to spread the wealth to himself and others following bogus reports of a professional management deal and potential country music career.
"I am starting a charity up, it's called 'Secure Our Dream.' It's just about people, neighbors in the community," Wurzelbacher told FOXNews.com.
The plumber-turned-media-fixture got a taste for charity work last week at an event in Philadelphia that aimed to help out family members of police officers killed in the line of duty.
He said he hasn't figured out how he's going to finance the charity, but knows how he wants the money to be spent.
"You know there's a lady on my street that is going to lose her house because of disability. You know ... that's something this charity that I am starting would help, help people directly," he said.
Wurzelbacher made national headlines in late September when he asked Barack Obama a question about tax policy that elicited the Democratic candidate's response that he wants to "spread the wealth" around by raising taxes on individuals earning more than $250,000 a year.
Immediately becoming a media sensation, Wurzelbacher hasn't been doing any plumbing work these days. He said while he is looking forward to the notoriety of being Joe the Plumber dying down somewhat, he doesn't want the newfound fame to disappear altogether.
"Obviously I gotta keep out there to a degree. That way this can take off and some real help can happen," he said. "The federal government is really not going to be able to affect, really, people on a community level, whereas the Joe the Plumber persona, which is hard to even relate to that because I don't know it doesn't feel like me, but if (it) can bring money to people and you know help out" then it will have been useful.
Wurzelbacher said he doesn't want Obama, or anyone else, at the federal level dictating how to spend his money, especially when that dictation comes from people whom Wurzelbacher sees as less than generous.
"Americans have always been great at giving to charities. We give more than any other country in the world. Let's direct it here more at home. Obama at the federal level, he is going to dictate and take more out of my pocket and tell me who to give it to? You know I am a pretty nice guy, you know I give to charities, I give to my church. You know, Joe the Biden, what he gave -- $3,000 last year -- and this guy makes millions? Come on, you know, that's just ridiculous."
Wurzelbacher said he knows he is "not speaking for all Americans" but does feel that he has some cause to use his recent publicity to maximum effect.
"The reason why I feel somewhat able to do it is because the letters and phone calls I get, and I get a ton of them. ... Democrat or Republican I am getting incredible feedback. So, authorized by the American people to speak for them? No. But a lot of people coming up to me and saying keep doing it, keep doing it. Civic duty is not a punch line with me. That's how I was raised and that's why I keep doing it."
But charity isn't Wurzelbacher's sole goal. Sharing the wealth also means helping himself. To that end, he's working with writer Tom Tabback on a book about American values.
"Everyone came at me to write a book. They had dollar signs in their eyes. '101 Things Joe the Plumber Knows' or some stupid s--- like that. Excuse me, I am sorry," he said. "You know I will get behind something solid, but I won't get behind fluff. I won't cash in, and when people do read the book they will figure out that I didn't cash in. At least I hope they figure that out."
The book, called "Joe the Plumber -- Fighting for the American Dream," is to be released by a group called PearlGate Publishing and other small publishing houses.
"I am not going to a conglomerate that way we actually can get the economy jump started. Like there is five publishing companies in Michigan. There's a couple down in Texas. They are small ones that can handle like 10 or 15,000 copies. I can go to a big one that could handle a million or two. But they don't need the help. They are already rich. So that's spreading the wealth to me," he said.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: Just Lou]
#518672
11/03/08 04:27 PM
11/03/08 04:27 PM
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Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 22,902 New York
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Consigliere
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Consigliere

Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 22,902
New York
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Besides Obama, I'll be voting for 2 Republicans, and 2 Democrats. Sounds like you're spreading the wealth.
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008
[Re: AppleOnYa]
#518704
11/03/08 05:39 PM
11/03/08 05:39 PM
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 13,145 East Tennessee
ronnierocketAGO
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 13,145
East Tennessee
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HISTORIC QUOTES....
"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence. You cannot heal men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." ... Abraham Lincoln "We need to spread the wealth." ... Barack Hussein Obama PASS IT ALONG....AND VOTE CAREFULLY !! Hey apple, what the fuck you think TAXES do and already have since we ratified that Income Tax Amendement at the turn of the 20th Century? Hell, Adam Smith...you know, the author of WEALTH OF NATIONS, argued that taxes("spreading the wealth") isn't an evil. If anything, why aren't you using Obama's "Coal" quotes instead?
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