Geez Double J, you're not subtle are ya?

Karl is right. While (rightfully) going out of their way to avoid the race factor (which Obama brought up more than anyone)...the media is now emphasizing almost nothing but.

Obama's race is the ONLY thing that makes this election historic, and to a degree it certainly should be celebrated.

That point aside, after rejecting left-wing lib presidential candidates for 30+ years, we have just placed one in the White House, and while congratulating him on this we can only hope he does less damage to the country than the more intelligent of us expect.

Apple

That's exactly how I felt eight years ago. My fears were realized.

But hope is a good thing. I have more hope of it getting better with Obama in office than I would have if McCain won.

And if he doesn't do better, there are about, what was it 47% of the voters who will be watching and waiting to say something about it!
Just like every losing side does.

Karl

On a related note, this just in from California:

Constitutional Amendment banning gay marriage has passed.

That is, until some liberal judge overturns the decision of the people.

Apple

It cannot be a California State Judge because a state court judge cannot overrule a state constitutional amendment. That's why they made it an amendment. Also because of the abstention doctrine a FederalJudge would not overturn a state constitutional amendment. The only two ways this can and will be overturned would either be an Act of Congress stating that no state can interfere with the rights of people
regardless of sexual orientation to marry (this would be much like the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which obliterated state constituional Jim Crow provisions, or an amendment to the United States Constitution overturning the state constitutional amendments.

But you knew this all along, Apple because you are a self-proclaimed intelligent person,

Thanks for the civics lesson. My point is that the libs and the gay rights movement will most likely not stand for this and will fight it, whatever avenue they have to take to do it.

"We pick ourselves up and trudge on," said Kate Kendell, executive director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights. "There has been enormous movement in favor of full equality in eight short years. That is the direction this is heading, and if it's not today or it's not tomorrow, it will be soon."

Apple
(aka SPIP)

I couldn't have said it better.

FWIW Huffington Post has a story suggesting that "President" Obama might pick RFK, Jr. as EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) head. RFK is really big on the environment, good choice no???? But as one of the comments suggest, what about Al Gore? Don't know if he'd want it but yea. What do you think?

TIS

I've heard Gore's name mentioned, but I have to question if it's a full-time job that he wants? He seems pretty happy doing what he's been doing.

I heard that John Kerry might be considered for Secretary of Defense, and Jon Corzine to head the Treasury. Corzine is an asshole. I hope he doesn't get it.

Do you think he may reach across the isle and pick Chuck Hagle??



TIS

I just don't understand what the big deal is. Gays have every right to be as miserable as the rest of us. I say let them marry.

I guess you now know what the Kennedy family is getting for showing their support.
Politics, isn't it a wonderful thing

It's possible. His name has been mentioned too, along with Dick Lugar for Secretary of State.

He should pick Powell for the Sec. of Defence.

I'm with PB. Why is this even an issue? If two people are in a monogamous relationship, why can't they have a piece of paper that recognizes it? They deserve the legal recognition that is given to a spouse when it comes to making medical decisions, sharing insurance benefits, etc.

Btw, the polls which on an average showed an Obama lead of approximately 6 points, turns out to be accurate. (I was way off when I guessed 10). Anyway, unless there are tons of votes yet to be counted, which I doubt.

But isn't the electoral vote considered somewhat of a landslide at 349 to 173? And, if I'm not mistaken there is still one or two more states too close to call (Indiana is one think.)


Obama 52 per cent

McCain 46 per cent

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/


TIS

Obama has won Indiana

Thanks LN. As of recently? Which states are still counting? I thought there were at least two that were too close even now, but maybe it's been tallied.


TIS

NC and MO are the final 2

One of the networks gave MO to Obama.

Rice congratulates Obama

By MATTHEW LEE – 2 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — An emotional Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice reveled Wednesday in Barack Obama's election, calling it an "extraordinary step forward" for the nation.

A child of the segregated deep South who became the highest-ranking African-American woman ever in American government and was once considered a potential Republican presidential nominee, Rice called the Democratic president-elect "inspirational" and said his victory was proof of America's promise.

"This was an exercise in American democracy of which Americans across the political spectrum are justifiably proud," she said.

"As an African-American, I'm especially proud," said Rice, her eyes glistening with emotion, "because this is a country that's been through a long journey, in terms of overcoming wounds and making race" less of a factor in life. "That work is not done, but yesterday was obviously an extraordinary step forward."

"One of the great things about representing this country is that it continues to surprise," she told reporters at the State Department at a hastily arranged briefing just hours before leaving Washington for the Middle East on a peacemaking trip. "It continues to renew itself. It continues to beat all odds and expectations."

Born and raised in Birmingham, Ala., at the height of the civil rights struggle, Rice herself overcame numerous obstacles and stereotypical low expectations. She speaks frequently about how improbable her rise to the corridors of power may seem. But she also notes that she succeeded the first black secretary of state, Colin Powell, and the first female to hold the job, Madeleine Albright.

"You just know that Americans are not going to be satisfied until they really do form that perfect union," she said, referring to the preamble of the Constitution, which begins: "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union ..."

"And while the perfect union may never be in sight, we just keep working at it and trying," Rice said.

Aides said Rice would likely call Obama, as well as vanquished Republican presidential nominee John McCain, later Wednesday.

She said McCain had been "gracious" in defeat and called him "a great patriot."

"I want to note that President-elect Obama was inspirational and I'm certain he will continue to be," Rice said.

She never said who she planned to vote for, but had hinted broadly that she would support McCain by repeatedly stressing that she is a Republican.

AP Writer Foster Klug contributed to this story.

Anyone else going through "election withdrawals"?

Yea JL,

I got use to you posting the daily poll numbers Whatever do we do now?

I did receive an e-mail I requested for tickets to various Inaguaration events. Geez, just the swearing in ceremony is like $650. There's several Balls though that will vary in price. Of course to be at "THE" Ball is like $2,000 per ticket (or some outrageous price not in my budget. I wouldn't mind going to something though.


TIS

It's like BAM it's over and done. Just another day.

The last few months, the election killed a lot of free time for me while I'm 'working'. Now I'm sitting here in front of my computer, and I don't know what to do. Maybe I'll go look at some porn.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-baines5-2008nov05,0,1853339.story

This offers perspective.