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Re: NFL '08
[Re: goombah]
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12/30/08 09:54 AM
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I agree that Marvin Lewis hasn't worked out in Cincy. The Bengal winning streak at the end of the season may have saved his job, but I don't expect a winning team next year.
I think he could be a successful head coach somewhere else. Cincy needs more of a disciplinarian, like a Parcells-type guy because of the constant distractions that seemed to have snowballed with this team. Lewisdidn't have this problem with the unit he had in Baltimore where the defense was professionally focused.
I agree with the Crennel firing even though I think teams frequently err when they fire coaches. Romeo always seemed to me to be too complacent and passive. Of course, my perspective is limited to what is broadcast, but it seemed he was silent and noncommunicative during the games. As a Steeler fan, I'm sorry to see him go.
Marinelli is a nice guy, but was in way over his head as a head coach. I'm surprised he lasted the season.
Mangini's firing didn't shock me as the Jets needed a scape goat. They felt that with some big off season signings, they belonged in the playoffs, and losing four of the last five with the only win being a gift from the Bills, soured them. Losing to Chad Pennington burned the Jets even more.
I think that it may be time for some team to bring back Jim Fassel.
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: goombah]
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12/31/08 01:39 PM
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I was very surprised about Shanahan's ouster too, Olivant. Perhaps ownership felt that the team underachieved and needed a new voice after 14 seasons. If he wants to pick right up and continue coaching, he will not be out of work long. He may want to take a year off and re-energize and then come back to an AFC West team and rub it in Denver's face twice per year (read: coach San Diego). I too didn't expect Shanahan's firing. He won two Super Bowls and always had a competitive offensive team. At the beginning of the year I thought Denver had below average talent, particularly on defense. I also think that Cutler, despite posting some big stats, is a proven winning QB. Shsnahan was treated unfairly in Oakland by Al Davis, and has had the better of Oakland since coaching the Broncos. He'll land somewhere. Also, I heard where Cowher is no longer interested in the Jets' job. I wonder if Tannenbaum wouldn't relinquish full control of the team to Cowher. If that was the deal breaker (and I'm only speculating), then I think the Jets made a mistake. Wherever Cowher goes, whether it's this year or next, he will have full authority over all personnel and coaching decisions.
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: klydon1]
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01/01/09 02:03 PM
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goombah
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From what I have heard on talk radio, it sounds as if Shanahan was fired more for his poor decisions as the GM rather (remember the 3rd rounder wasted on Maurice Clarrett?) than as the actual coach. His 1997-98 Elway teams were well balanced in all three phases of the game, whereas his defenses in particular have been poor the last several years. And 2008 was the first in a long time in which the patented running attack of the Broncos was not there, albeit much of that due to continous injuries.
I think NY could be a good fit for Shanahan, but he needs a young QB to mentor. Then again, he might opt to sit out a year and wait for a better organization to surface than the choice among the Jets, Browns, and Lions.
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: goombah]
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01/01/09 02:47 PM
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I think NY could be a good fit for Shanahan, but he needs a young QB to mentor. Then again, he might opt to sit out a year and wait for a better organization to surface than the choice among the Jets, Browns, and Lions.
Dungy will probably leave after the Colts win the Super Bowl on February 1st, but it's not a good fit and Jim Caldwell is next in line. Bill Polian has a system and I'd rather have him as GM than any coach out there. Also, I hope his son Chris stays with the organization rather than taking a job elsewhere so he can be the GM after his father retires. Shannahan would be an improvement for most teams. The Browns might fit with Quinn.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: Longneck]
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01/02/09 12:23 AM
01/02/09 12:23 AM
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New York Jets running back Thomas Jones earlier this week told a local radio station that future Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre should have been benched at some point during the season.
Jones told Hot 97 FM on Tuesday that Favre’s mistakes hurt the Jets down the stretch.
New York lost four if its last five games, and the 39-year-old Favre tossed nine interceptions with just two touchdowns in that span. Favre finished with 22 touchdowns and a league-worst 22 interceptions, but still somehow made the Pro Bowl.
“We’re a team and we win together. … But at the same time, you can’t turn the ball over and expect to win,” Jones told the radio station two days after Favre tossed three interceptions in the season-ending loss to Miami.
The loss was even more painful because former Jet Chad Pennington outplayed Favre and helped the Dolphins clinched the AFC East. Jones, who led the AFC with 1,312 yards, said the turnovers were the difference in the 24-17 loss.
“The other day, the three interceptions really hurt us. I mean, that’s just reality,” Jones told the radio station. “If I were to sit here and say, ‘Oh, man, it’s OK,’ that’s not reality. … I don’t like it, I know everybody else on the team doesn’t like it.
“If somebody is not playing well, they need to come out of the game,” Jones told Hot 97 FM. “You’re jeopardizing the whole team because you’re having a bad day. To me, that’s not fair to everybody else. You’re not the only one on the team. So when you get to the wire and somebody is just giving the game up, I mean, it’s just not (fair).”
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: Blibbleblabble]
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01/08/09 02:05 AM
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Wednesday, January 7, 2009 Pacman out as 2007 shooting surfaces ESPN.com news services
IRVING, Texas -- The Cowboys have released Adam "Pacman" Jones and a team source told ESPN's Ed Werder that the move was made after the team learned of new allegations against the troubled cornerback from his time with the Titans.
Jones' release came after "Outside the Lines" reporter John Barr contacted the NFL, the Cowboys and Jones' attorneys about a piece scheduled to air Sunday in which three Atlanta-area men allege that Jones arranged for someone to shoot at them two months after the football player was suspended by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in 2007.
The June 2007 shooting occurred outside a suburban Atlanta strip club. One of the shooting victims told "Outside the Lines" that he had a dispute with Jones inside the strip club and that not long after he and the two others left the club, a hail of bullets struck their car. The NFL knew about that incident, but charges were never brought against anyone because the victims did not see the shooter.
"Outside the Lines" obtained information that police, investigating a separate Atlanta-area case, had been told by an informant that Jones ordered the June 2007 shooting following his dispute with one of the men. Police have said while the case remains open they are not actively investigating.
Jones denied the report and told the Dallas Morning News: "It will be a lawsuit in a week against ESPN. That's stupid. It's so stupid I have no more comments."
The Cowboys traded for Jones before the season even though he had been suspended in 2007 because of a series of off-field incidents. Jones, expected to give the Cowboys a boost on defense and special teams, had no interceptions and averaged just 4.6 yards per punt return.
"He was surprised, and I think he was obviously somewhat hurt," said Worrick Robinson, Jones' agent. "At the same time, he understands the business behind what is happening here."
Jones missed six games this season for violating the league's player conduct policy after an Oct. 7 scuffle with a team bodyguard at a Dallas hotel. He missed a seventh game with an injury.
The 25-year-old Jones spent part of his time away from football taking part in an alcohol rehabilitation program.
Robinson said he did not think Jones' suspension was a factor in the Cowboys' decision to release the cornerback.
"We don't have any reason to believe at this point that that off-the-field incident had anything to do with the team's decision today," Robinson said. "I know there was certainly a lot of bad that came out of that situation, but there was some good that came out of that situation as well."
Jones' attorney added he expects the cornerback will be back with some team in 2009.
"He is young. He has a lot of ability and he is eager to get back on the field," Robinson said.
Cowboys spokesman Rich Dalrymple declined to comment on the team's decision and said owner Jerry Jones was unavailable. Coach Wade Phillips and linebacker Greg Ellis, who is the team's representative to the players' union, did not immediately return messages left by The Associated Press.
The Cowboys traded for Jones despite the cornerback's suspension for the 2007 season after multiple off-field incidents while with the Titans. He was given another chance and cleared to play in 2008 by commissioner Roger Goodell.
When Jones was traded to Dallas in April, Tennessee received a fourth-round draft pick. The Titans were also supposed to get a sixth-rounder next year, but because Jones was suspended again, Dallas will instead receive a fifth-round pick in 2009.
Before coming to Dallas, Jones was arrested six times and involved in 12 instances requiring police intervention after Tennessee drafted him in the first round in 2005.
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: klydon1]
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01/08/09 11:25 AM
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I'm curious what the Jets fans here thought of Mangini. I am not that excited that the Browns hired him, particularly so fast. No other teams were beating down the door for him. I don't think he's a bad coach, but he has relatively little experience. I have also heard criticism of his gametime decisions, but that can always be improved upon.
Additionally, Browns ownership (again) bungled the process by hiring a coach before a GM. Then again, ownership has no regard for money, so I could see them still making an offer to Cowher next year and eating the remaining 3 yrs on Mangini's contract.
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: goombah]
#528266
01/12/09 04:11 PM
01/12/09 04:11 PM
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Yeah...I don't know much about Caldwell but he's been with Dungy since 2001. Jim Caldwell took over more coaching duties this season so he's better prepared than a lot of first time NFL head coaches. Here's some of his Bio from Colts.com Caldwell has more than 20 years of collegiate experience. Caldwell spent 1993-2000 as head coach at Wake Forest. In 1999, Caldwell led the school to its first winning season and bowl game since 1992. Wake Forest defeated Arizona State, 23-3, in the Aloha Bowl. During Caldwell’s tenure, Wake Forest ranked among the nation’s Top 25 teams in passing offense on four different occasions, including 10th in the NCAA in 1995. That season, QB-Rusty LaRue established seven NCAA passing records.
Caldwell served as an assistant coach at Southern Illinois (1978-80), Northwestern (1981), Colorado (1982-84), Louisville (1985) and Penn State (1986-92). Caldwell joined Penn State as wide receivers coach. He then coached quarterbacks the following season and added passing game coordinator responsibilities in 1988. At Penn State, Caldwell tutored QB-Kerry Collins, who went on to win the Davey O’Brien Award as the nation’s top college quarterback and the Maxwell Award as the nation’s most outstanding player. Caldwell has coached in six bowl games and won a national championship with Penn State in 1986. In addition to serving on Joe Paterno’s staff that won a national championship, Caldwell tutored under three other coaches who won collegiate titles (Rey Dempsey, Southern Illinois; Bill McCartney, Colorado; Howard Schnellenberger, Louisville).
Caldwell was a four-year starter as a defensive back at Iowa and worked as a graduate assistant for the Hawkeyes in 1977.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: Longneck]
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01/12/09 06:13 PM
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Irsay sounds like he wants to cry at this press conference. Holy shit, Polian about to cry? He's such a hard ass most of the time. Tony Dungy is a Genius Facebook group I've had for a few years. The NFL loses a great coach but he'll be able to get more involved in charities and ministering.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: NFL '08
[Re: Longneck]
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01/17/09 04:02 PM
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I must admit being surprised that Tampa fired "Chucky" Gruden. I did not see this coming. If he still wants to coach next season, and since he's only 39, I assume he will get snatched up quickly. I think he still has plenty of room for improvement as a coach and I always felt his Super Bowl win was tainted based on taking over Dungy's team (much like Switzer taking over for Jimmy Johnson in Dallas). Broncos, Lions, and Browns positions are taken. Jets? or maybe Oakland? It's hard to believe but Raiders fans were actually calling the local sports talk radio station and suggesting he comes back to Oakland. Most Raider fans embarrass me!  I was shocked to hear he got fired as well. I wonder if he'll take a college coaching job?
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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