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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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05/30/08 05:16 PM
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Beth E
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June 29th? Man, that's late. Graduations here are all in end of May, or 1st week of June at the latest, so I assumed. I know, what happens when you "assume". I'll leave you to your work, Madam hostess. Coronations take a lot of work.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Beth E]
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05/30/08 06:09 PM
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Well Joba's gonna make his first start on Tuesday: Joba's first start to come TuesdayMINNEAPOLIS -- Joba Chamberlain is set to join the Yankees' rotation on Tuesday, starting against the Blue Jays at Yankee Stadium and completing his transition from the club's bullpen. Yankees manager Joe Girardi officially announced the move on Friday prior to the team's game against the Twins in Minnesota. Chamberlain will be permitted to throw 65 to 70 pitches in the outing, his first professional start since he was converted into a dominant setup reliever and promoted to the Major Leagues last season. "I'm excited just for the opportunity to continue to help the team win ballgames," Chamberlain said. "It's been fun continuing to extend and get lengthened out. I'm excited for the opportunity. It feels like it started about forever ago, but it came about real quick. I know I've got to continue to get better and keep getting stronger in my legs and keep throwing good bullpens." Girardi said the Yankees set their rotation to allow Andy Pettitte to pitch on regular rest on Monday at Minnesota, setting Chamberlain up for Tuesday's start. Chamberlain is now considered a member of the five-man rotation and, in each outing, Chamberlain will add 10 to 15 pitches until he reaches the neighborhood of around 100 pitches. "After a lot of consideration, we just thought Tuesday was best," Girardi said. "It's the way our rotation kind of shakes out." Chamberlain is 1-2 with a 2.28 ERA in 20 relief appearances for the Yankees this season. In 23 2/3 innings, he has allowed 16 hits and six earned runs while walking 11 and striking out 30. In his last outing on Thursday, Chamberlain struck out three in 1 1/3 innings of relief at Baltimore, earning a hold in New York's 4-2 victory over the Orioles. Source: Yankees
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Beth E]
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05/30/08 11:16 PM
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I'll leave you to your work, Madam hostess. Coronations take a lot of work. Thank God for the unlimited Bloody Marys and Mimosas being served. I'm going to need them. Hey, the Yankees won tonight! I see a pattern emerging - I don't watch the game and they win.
President Emeritus of the Neal Pulcawer Fan Club
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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05/31/08 01:51 AM
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It's WAY too soon for Jaba to be starting... this is ridiculous! F Hank and the horse he rode in on! When he ruins Jaba's career -- which he will -- then as a true Steinbrenner he'll blame someone else, right? Girardi somehow, I'm sure. This is so not right that we have to now rely on FarnsworthLESS in the 8th???? Hank fucked the team. And luckily for him, he can't get fired. (I hope I'm wrong of course! )
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
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05/31/08 02:26 AM
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It's WAY too soon for Jaba to be starting... this is ridiculous! F Hank and the horse he rode in on! When he ruins Jaba's career -- which he will -- then as a true Steinbrenner he'll blame someone else, right? Girardi somehow, I'm sure. This is so not right that we have to now rely on FarnsworthLESS in the 8th???? Hank fucked the team. And luckily for him, he can't get fired. (I hope I'm wrong of course! ) I think you just answered your own queston. Here is my question....who's worse off at the moment, Mets or Yanks?
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
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05/31/08 02:30 AM
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who's worse off at the moment, Mets or Yanks? No difference right now... they both suck. ...but Yanks at least have infinite potential if they can get healthy...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
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05/31/08 10:37 AM
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who's worse off at the moment, Mets or Yanks? No difference right now... they both suck. ...but Yanks at least have infinite potential if they can get healthy... Yeah, I think I agree with you as well.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
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06/03/08 10:43 AM
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I was listening to a sports talk show yesterday on the way home from work. The Cleveland host was talking to some NY reporter about a trade rumor involving Cleveland and the Yanks. Here is the rumor: Indians trade C.C. Sabathia, Franklin Guitierrez and Astrubal Cabrera for Cano, Melky Cabrera, and Phil Hughes. We'll see if there ends up being any truth to it. I agree with SB. If they didn't trade Melky or Phil for Johan Santana (who IMO is a better pitcher than C.C.) then I don't see them trading for C.C. Plus, C.C.'s a free agent at the end of the year, so why trade for him now when they could keep their players and just sign him (New York can outbid Cleveland). Hey, I'm just sharing - I never said the trade would happen. I will say that I guarantee that C.C. will not sign in NY this offseason, so do not plan on him being a free agent acquisition. He hates the city and the media pressure. Sabathia is going west, probably to SF, the Dodgers, or Anaheim. But the idea of renting him is nothing that Steinbrenner has not done in the past, so it could happen. I couldn't imagine that any of the Steinbrenner's would be content to just sit back without trying to improve before the trading deadline. NY was utterly foolish for not pulling the trigger to give up the players you mentioned for Santana, who is one of the best pitchers in MLB. Santana is better than any starting pitcher they have had on their roster in the past 10 years.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
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06/03/08 10:58 AM
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I was listening to a sports talk show yesterday on the way home from work. The Cleveland host was talking to some NY reporter about a trade rumor involving Cleveland and the Yanks. Here is the rumor: Indians trade C.C. Sabathia, Franklin Guitierrez and Astrubal Cabrera for Cano, Melky Cabrera, and Phil Hughes. We'll see if there ends up being any truth to it. I agree with SB. If they didn't trade Melky or Phil for Johan Santana (who IMO is a better pitcher than C.C.) then I don't see them trading for C.C. Plus, C.C.'s a free agent at the end of the year, so why trade for him now when they could keep their players and just sign him (New York can outbid Cleveland). Hey, I'm just sharing - I never said the trade would happen. I will say that I guarantee that C.C. will not sign in NY this offseason, so do not plan on him being a free agent acquisition. He hates the city and the media pressure. Sabathia is going west, probably to SF, the Dodgers, or Anaheim. But the idea of renting him is nothing that Steinbrenner has not done in the past, so it could happen. I couldn't imagine that any of the Steinbrenner's would be content to just sit back without trying to improve before the trading deadline. NY was utterly foolish for not pulling the trigger to give up the players you mentioned for Santana, who is one of the best pitchers in MLB. Santana is better than any starting pitcher they have had on their roster in the past 10 years. I think those "renting" days of the Yankees are over with this new management and with Cashman's new approach which I don't disagree with at all. This season will be a lose. I realize that. But when Hughes, Joba, and possibly Kennedy come around they could finally have a triple-threat in the rotation the likes of the 90's Braves (Smoltz, Maddox, Glavine) or early 2000's A's (Zito, Moulder, Hudson). So I'd rather hang onto those guys and see them develop and help us win for the next decade then get a quick fix to get us through just this season. As for Santana, only time will tell with this trade but looking back, I'm glad the Yankees didn't trade for him. First there's the money AND prospects issue. Not only would the Yankees have had to trade about 3 or 4 players but they also would have had to make a $120+ 7-year commitment to this guy. Granted the Yankees can afford it but they could also use that money this offseason on other players rather than just sinking into one guy who goes out every 5 days. Also, Santana is no spring chicken. He's 29-years-old right now and by the time his contract expires he'll be 36. I believe his prime is already past and so do others as his velocity has been down since moving to New York. I think Minnesota overworked him and now unfortunately for the Mets, they could have a broken down pitcher (see Pedro Martinez). However, after the Mets historic collapse last season, they HAD to do something and on paper the Santana trade looked great for them and a number of people (including myself) picked them to represent the NL in the World Series. So far it hasn't worked out for them but it is still early and they have plenty of time to turn it around. And one more piece of fact, Phil Hughes is only 21-years of age. He hasn't even begun to reach his potential so I believe the Yankees did right by hanging onto him.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
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06/03/08 11:26 AM
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But when Hughes, Joba, and possibly Kennedy come around they could finally have a triple-threat in the rotation the likes of the 90's Braves (Smoltz, Maddox, Glavine) or early 2000's A's (Zito, Moulder, Hudson).
I admire your optimism, but Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux are first ballot hall of famers. So far with Hughes, Kennedy and Chamberlain you have a guy, who hasn't been healthy, a guy, who hasn't shown anything in the big leagues, and a guy, who is going to start his first game tonight. I think all three will have major league careers, but wouldn't them in the claass of the three Braves. They still have some proving to do. I actually think the Yankees should have made the deal for Santana. Pitchers of his caliber are rare and he's still young and in good shape. He can be the anchor of a staff for years. I was disappointed the Mets got him. He's 7-3 and is keeping the Mets in the race.
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