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Re: Texas Governor Talks Secession
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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04/16/09 10:25 PM
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Okay, these states talk about Secession. Do I understand that to be detached from the U.S. and become their own country? Ha ha ha kind of drastic isn't it?  They can't really do that can they? (not that I think they will, even if they could mind you. I think it's all BS personally). Why do are going to such silly extremes??? TIS
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Re: Texas Governor Talks Secession
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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04/16/09 11:04 PM
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Okay, these states talk about Secession. Do I understand that to be detached from the U.S. and become their own country? Ha ha ha kind of drastic isn't it?  They can't really do that can they? (not that I think they will, even if they could mind you. I think it's all BS personally). Why do are going to such silly extremes??? TIS Texas v. White , 1869. Chief Justice Chase, writing for the court in its 1869 decision, said: "The Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union, composed of indestructible States. ... Considered, therefore, as transactions under the Constitution, the Ordinance of Secession, adopted by the convention and ratified by a majority of the citizens of Texas, and all the Acts of her Legislature intended to give effect to that ordinance, were absolutely null. They were utterly without operation in law. ... Our conclusion, therefore, is, that Texas continued to be a State, and a State of the Union, notwithstanding the transactions to which we have referred." Also, the Constitution's Article IV, Section 4 requires that the federal government guarantee to each state a republican form of government, something it can't do if a state is not part of the Union.
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Re: Texas Governor Talks Secession
[Re: BAM_233]
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04/17/09 12:11 AM
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Santino Brasi
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is texas full of bushes or what? lol sure, and they're pretty hot too Look at your own risk
 He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: Texas Governor Talks Secession
[Re: Saladbar]
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04/17/09 05:20 PM
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FOREIGN POLICY Magazine write a column, on if Texas actually did try to go independent: http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/04/16/foreign_relations_with_texas_if_it_secedesMy favorite analysis? "It would be the world's thirteenth largest economy -- bigger than South Korea, Sweden, and Saudi Arabia. But its worth would crater precipitously, after NAFTA rejected it and the United States slapped it with an embargo that would make Cuba look like a free-trade zone. Indeed, Texas would quick become the next North Korea, relying on foreign aid due to its insistence on relying on itself.
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...the state of Texas would rapidly become direly impoverished, would need to be heavily armed, and would be wracked with existential domestic and foreign policy threats. It would probably make our failed states list in short order. Probably better to pay the damn taxes."
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