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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Saladbar]
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04/30/09 02:03 PM
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pizzaboy
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I'm working my way through John D. MacDonald's "Travis McGee" series again. As a kid, I read all 21 of them. In my opinion, it's the greatest mystery series ever written. Set in South Florida at the time they were written (the '60s and '70s), the series encapsulates and portends the incessant development in the state of Florida, both pre and post Disney. The subject matter is a bit antiquated, and Travis's macho, manly-man attitude may be off-putting to the post feminist crowd, but it's still wildly entertaining and exceptionally well written. Besides, who wouldn't want to live on a house boat in Fort Lauderdale?
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: pizzaboy]
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04/30/09 03:16 PM
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Rant by Chuck Palahniuk
Rant takes the form of a (fictional) oral history of Buster "Rant" Casey, in which an assortment of friends, enemies, admirers, detractors, and relations have their say on this evil character, who may or may not be the most efficient serial killer of our time.
It's in a different format than other books I've read. It's pretty intriguing as all Palahniuk's writings are.
I'm about 1/4th a way through the book and it was worth what I paid already. And I'm a cheapskate.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: pizzaboy]
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04/30/09 03:46 PM
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dontomasso
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I'm working my way through John D. MacDonald's "Travis McGee" series again. As a kid, I read all 21 of them. In my opinion, it's the greatest mystery series ever written. Set in South Florida at the time they were written (the '60s and '70s), the series encapsulates and portends the incessant development in the state of Florida, both pre and post Disney. The subject matter is a bit antiquated, and Travis's macho, manly-man attitude may be off-putting to the post feminist crowd, but it's still wildly entertaining and exceptionally well written. Besides, who wouldn't want to live on a house boat in Fort Lauderdale? The Busted Flush was the boat as I recall. Oddly enough MacDonald lived on the Florida west coast in Sarasota.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: dontomasso]
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04/30/09 04:03 PM
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pizzaboy
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The Busted Flush was the boat as I recall. Oddly enough MacDonald lived on the Florida west coast in Sarasota. I should've known you'd remember, DT. The Busted Flush it was, indeed. It was moored in slip F 18 at the Bahia Mar Marina.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Longneck]
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05/01/09 12:12 AM
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Blibbleblabble
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Rant by Chuck Palahniuk
Rant takes the form of a (fictional) oral history of Buster "Rant" Casey, in which an assortment of friends, enemies, admirers, detractors, and relations have their say on this evil character, who may or may not be the most efficient serial killer of our time.
It's in a different format than other books I've read. It's pretty intriguing as all Palahniuk's writings are.
I'm about 1/4th a way through the book and it was worth what I paid already. And I'm a cheapskate. How many of Palahniuk's books have you read so far? He is one of my favorite writer's, and I haven't read Rant yet. I love his books so much that I actually started an individual HERE that I've been meaning to post in because of the movie made about his book Choke.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Blibbleblabble]
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05/01/09 04:01 PM
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Saladbar
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How many of Palahniuk's books have you read so far? He is one of my favorite writer's, and I haven't read Rant yet. I love his books so much that I actually started an individual HERE that I've been meaning to post in because of the movie made about his book Choke. I've read Choke, Fight Club and Lullaby. This RANT sounds pretty good. Maybe it will be my next Palahniuk. I'm into all these grit lit novels right now.
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it"
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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05/01/09 04:04 PM
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Santino Brasi
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GAH! Stop talking about Fight Club!
 He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Santino Brasi]
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05/03/09 01:25 AM
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GAH! Stop talking about Fight Club! Maybe I missed something... but why? Fight Club was a really good book, and one of the best movie adaptations. It's worth talking about... No?
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Blibbleblabble]
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05/03/09 08:21 AM
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GAH! Stop talking about Fight Club! Maybe I missed something... but why? Fight Club was a really good book, and one of the best movie adaptations. It's worth talking about... No? 1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB.
2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.3rd RULE: If someone says "stop" or goes limp, taps out the fight is over. 4th RULE: Only two guys to a fight. 5th RULE: One fight at a time. 6th RULE: No shirts, no shoes. 7th RULE: Fights will go on as long as they have to. 8th RULE: If this is your first night at FIGHT CLUB, you HAVE to fight.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Longneck]
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05/07/09 09:57 PM
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Irishman12
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It's been well over a year since I last read a book, but with this whole A-Rod book coming out this week, the steroids issue in baseball has piqued my interest into reading more about it. What better way to start than with the man himself, Jose Canseco with JUICED: WILD TIMES, RAMPANT 'ROIDS, SMASH HITS, AND HOW BASEBALL GOT BIG  A GREAT book that was very hard to put down. The chapters he devotes to McGwire's and Giambi's steroid use were the best for me. However, this was a rather short book (at 285 pages), basically just giving hightlights about his life. I was hoping for something a little more in-depth. I'm hoping VINDICATED: BIG NAMES, BIG LIARS, AND THE BATTLE TO SAVE BASEBALL is just that. It's 52 pages shorter but the chapters appear to be longer (JUICED had 25 chapters and VINDICATED only has 10).
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Irishman12]
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05/10/09 09:51 PM
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Irishman12
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 Canseco's second book, VINDICATED: BIG NAMES, BIG LIARS, AND THE BATTLE TO SAVE BASEBALL, is pretty different than his first. The first seemed too PC and almost "friendly" in a way. He named names in JUICED but it was almost as if he did it nicely. In this book however, his true feelings come out such as his thoughts on A-Rod (before his steroid scandal was revealed just a few months ago) and how he wanted to add Roger Clemens name to his list of users in JUICED but was forbidden by the publisher. All in all, another very interesting read by Jose, however some of the chapters just seemed to be mindless ramblings at times, constantly repeating himself. Although he did offer some great insight into the Congressional hearings and his thoughts on the Mitchell Report. He also brought up a great point that I agree with and believed even before I read this book: that Mitchell protected the Boston Red Sox and Florida Marlin franchises since he at times worked for both as a consultant. Really, think about it. How many Yankee players were named compared to Red Sox? The only Red Sox player I remember hearing was Mo Vaughn who hasn't played for the team in about a decade!
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Longneck]
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05/10/09 09:59 PM
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GAH! Stop talking about Fight Club! Maybe I missed something... but why? Fight Club was a really good book, and one of the best movie adaptations. It's worth talking about... No? 1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB.
2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.3rd RULE: If someone says "stop" or goes limp, taps out the fight is over. 4th RULE: Only two guys to a fight. 5th RULE: One fight at a time. 6th RULE: No shirts, no shoes. 7th RULE: Fights will go on as long as they have to. 8th RULE: If this is your first night at FIGHT CLUB, you HAVE to fight. My bad 
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Irishman12]
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05/11/09 09:45 AM
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Canseco should take note that Mitchell, an Irish catholic, was instrumental in establishing the Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland without his background affecting his judgment. He was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize and received an honorary knighthood from the UK.
He is also half Lebanese, but served as a special envoy to the Middle East under Clinton and now Obama, and received praise from the head of the Anti Defamation League for his fairness and judgment.
Keep in mind that Mitchell has served prominently on many boards for many companies and has held numerous positions within public service and that his consultant position for the Red Sox was comparatively insignificant, but spelled out in his report.
His report did not claim to be a complete list of steroid users, but it did represent an exhaustive list of names of players, for whom corroborated and documented evidence from the available sources, including Brian McNamee, linked to the purchase and acquisition of performance enhancing drugs.
I don't doubt that there were Red Sox players, who used steroids, that didn't make the list, just as I believe there were other players from every other team, who weren't found out. But I do not believe that Mitchell withheld information or refused to investigate a trail in order to protect the Red Sox or Marlins. His reputation in higher matters is too valuable to risk over this study.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: Danito]
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05/11/09 07:47 PM
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pizzaboy
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I read "eat pray love" until page 50. I find it half-amusing, half-interesting. Is it worth continuing? Unless a book is absolutely God awful, I usually see it through to the end. I just picked up ROAD DOGS, by Elmore Leonard. He's long been one of my favorite novelists---especially in the crime "genre." It's the sequel to OUT OF SIGHT, which was published in '96 and adapted into a GREAT film in '98, starring George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez. It continues the story of gentleman bank robber Jack Foley, who gets his sentence drastically reduced on a technicality (hey, it's just a book). I've been looking forward to this one for a while, so I'll be starting it after the Met game tonight.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
[Re: pizzaboy]
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05/12/09 12:39 PM
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I just picked up ROAD DOGS, by Elmore Leonard. He's long been one of my favorite novelists---especially in the crime "genre." It's the sequel to OUT OF SIGHT, which was published in '96 and adapted into a GREAT film in '98, starring George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez. It continues the story of gentleman bank robber Jack Foley, who gets his sentence drastically reduced on a technicality (hey, it's just a book). I've been looking forward to this one for a while, so I'll be starting it after the Met game tonight.
Sounds like a few books I need to read.
Long as I remember The rain been coming down. Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground. Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun; And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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05/20/09 09:16 AM
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pizzaboy
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Surprised at how much the film actually improved its story. Rare when a film improves upon a book, but it happens. Case in point: THE GODFATHER. Sure, it was a runaway bestseller, especially in paperback. But to be honest, it was pulp fiction masquerading as literature. My point is, if the films didn't become such a HUGE part of 20th century pop culture, I doubt the novel would still be in print.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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