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Re: GFIII - What went wrong?
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/28/09 09:32 PM
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GF III does have some excellent moments thought, the Confession of Mike to Lamberto - a standout scene to be sure. That's because he chose a great actor--Raf Vallone--as the Cardinal. One of the few brilliant casting choices in that film. Turnbull, I hope I'm not mistaken, but I believe that Vallone was considered for the part of Vito in I. I think we can safely say that the better actor got the job. Nothing against Vallone, just that Brando was marvelous.
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Re: GFIII - What went wrong?
[Re: Sopranorleone]
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05/28/09 11:20 PM
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Turnbull, I hope I'm not mistaken, but I believe that Vallone was considered for the part of Vito in I. I think we can safely say that the better actor got the job. Nothing against Vallone, just that Brando was marvelous. Sopranoleone, Harlan Lebo, in his definitive, "The Godfather Legacy," makes no mention of Raf Vallone being considered as Vito. He does say that "hundreds" of people wanted to be considered, including Rudy Vallee(!), David Janssen and Vince Edwards. Supposedly the Mob preferred Ernest Borgnine. In his introduction to the VHS 25th anniversary edition of the Trilogy, Puzo said he heard that Danny Thomas(!) was planning to buy Paramount so he could play Vito. That prospect, according to Puzo, stimulated him to write Brando about playing Vito. In the end, two actors--John Marley and Richard Conte--were the finalists in Paramount's estimation. But Coppola and Ruddy wanted Brando, and they got him.
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Re: GFIII - What went wrong?
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05/29/09 12:07 AM
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He made this movie. Don Cardi hit it on the head... the only reason the movie was made was so FFC could save his wine (and that's no sour grapes). The movie wasn't made for the art or for the story but rather it was solely done for the money. By cashing in on Parts I and II, FFC sold out on Part III and the bottom line. As a "Godfather" fan, that's an infamnia.
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Re: GFIII - What went wrong?
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/29/09 12:10 PM
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Sopranoleone, Harlan Lebo, in his definitive, "The Godfather Legacy," makes no mention of Raf Vallone being considered as Vito. He does say that "hundreds" of people wanted to be considered, including Rudy Vallee(!), David Janssen and Vince Edwards. Supposedly the Mob preferred Ernest Borgnine. In his introduction to the VHS 25th anniversary edition of the Trilogy, Puzo said he heard that Danny Thomas(!) was planning to buy Paramount so he could play Vito. That prospect, according to Puzo, stimulated him to write Brando about playing Vito. In the end, two actors--John Marley and Richard Conte--were the finalists in Paramount's estimation. But Coppola and Ruddy wanted Brando, and they got him.
That's odd. Thanks for the info. I wonder where I remember reading that about Vallone, though. If I find it, I'll post a link.
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Re: GFIII - What went wrong?
[Re: Don Cardi]
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05/29/09 12:17 PM
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"We had an agreement!" My goodness. In that scene, I always thought Hamilton was trying to emulate Duvall yelling out, "This committee owes an apology!" Of course, he missed his mark. By quite a bit. Of all the lousy performances in Part III, Hamilton's was undoubtedly the worst. I mean, "Zorro the Gay Blade" as consigliere? Gimme a freakin' break.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: GFIII - What went wrong?
[Re: pizzaboy]
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05/29/09 05:49 PM
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"We had an agreement!" My goodness. In that scene, I always thought Hamilton was trying to emulate Duvall yelling out, "This committee owes an apology! I remember Turnbull saying the same exact thing a few years back when we were having dinner together and I thought that it was an excellent observation on his part! Hamilton couldn't come close to shining Duvall's shoes as an actor let alone emulating him on the big screen. Hamilton's best role was in 'Love At First Bite'...... ....he should have remained a bat!
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: GFIII - What went wrong?
[Re: Don Cardi]
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05/30/09 05:19 AM
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Watched a bit of III last night....Hamilton really sucks doesn't he.
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Re: GFIII - What went wrong?
[Re: Don Cardi]
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05/30/09 01:40 PM
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"We had an agreement!" My goodness. In that scene, I always thought Hamilton was trying to emulate Duvall yelling out, "This committee owes an apology! I remember Turnbull saying the same exact thing a few years back when we were having dinner together and I thought that it was an excellent observation on his part! Great minds . . .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: GFIII - What went wrong?
[Re: Danito]
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06/01/09 08:34 PM
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I know, I'm pretty alone with this opinion, but I hate Garcia's overacting in GFIII. It's no better than Douglas Barr's "Howie" in "The Fall Guy". Definitely agree with you Danito, I forgot to mention that. Well over the top in parts. He may have been Sonny's boy and supposedly a hot head but.. Was just a bit too much.
"Just when I thought I was out.. They pull me back in"
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Re: GFIII - What went wrong?
[Re: AppleOnYa]
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06/01/09 10:03 PM
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I didn't realise he got an Oscar nomination for that performance. Yeah it was an okay performance, but it didn't help the movie.
"Just when I thought I was out.. They pull me back in"
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