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Re: Question about end of GF?
#5447
12/31/03 12:01 PM
12/31/03 12:01 PM
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plawrence
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There's a passage in the book--which I don't have in front of me at the moment--that talks about how even at that late date, Mike was still a tiny bit unsure about the extent of Carlo's involvement, and still needed that final bit of confirmation.
If no one else does this afternoon, I'll post the quote later.
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: Question about end of GF?
#5452
03/15/05 12:15 PM
03/15/05 12:15 PM
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Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel
dontomasso
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Michael knew it was Carlo, but he wanted to humiliate Carlo and make him confess to him with Hagen also present. If he was going to off his brother in law, he was only going to do it after he extracted that confession. Michael was very deft in getting it too. First he gains Calo's confidence by sending him back to the house after the Baptism. Then he terrifies him by telling him the names of all the people who are dead...watch the horror on Carlo's face as Mike recites the names. Then he rants at him about how "that little farce" he played with Connie could never "fool a Corleone." By now, Carlo is really in fear for his life, and Michael switches gears again, and offers him a drink, and tells him his punishment is banishment from the family business, and he makes some comment about making his sister a widow. Then he appeals to him not to insult his intelligence by confessing. He then uses a cross examination technique which basically lays an assumption into a question. Instead of saying "did you do it," he asks "who approached you [to do it]." This breaks Carlo who tells Mike it was Barzini.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Question about end of GF?
#5453
03/15/05 12:50 PM
03/15/05 12:50 PM
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Posts: 6,762 Anytown, USA
goombah
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Just as a sidebar: When Carlo gets in the car, Clemenza is in the backseat and soon thereafter kills Carlo. Was Carlo a) so distracted about having his life spared that he was not concerned who was in the backseat? b) more relaxed since he knew Clemenza and wouldn't feel as threatened, or c) would have been more apprehensive if an unknown (to Carlo) buttonman was in the backseat?
If Michael wanted to keep the ruse going just a bit longer, should the killer have hidden from Carlo's view until the car started moving? Given Clemenza's, ahem, girth, then maybe he was incapable of bending down and hiding. But certainly someone like Cicci could have.
Just what-iffing here...
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Re: Question about end of GF?
#5456
03/16/05 01:58 AM
03/16/05 01:58 AM
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Michael had to know "it was Barzini all along," especially since his father came to that knowledge beforehand, and it was Barzini who invited Michael to the fateful meeting. So why did he ask Carlo? Perhaps a tactical move: Make Carlo think that by telling the truth, he'd be spared, and so he wouldn't put up a messy fight (or beg for his life) in the compound. Then he'd get in the car to the "airport," and Clemenza could garrot him, neat and clean. Hell, what differenc
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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