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Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: J Geoff] #554892
09/13/09 08:49 PM
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My entire offense scores 1 TD, and my defense gives up 38. Yet, I have over 100 points, and with a good game from T.O. I could actually win this week.

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Just Lou] #554897
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Hey JG, you should "auto draft" more often. tongue

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Just Lou] #554902
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Hey JG, you should "auto draft" more often. tongue


You saying the computer is smarter than me? tongue (It is) lol

I would've had 173 pts optimally eek



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: J Geoff] #554911
09/14/09 01:59 AM
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I'm off to a horrendous start. I'm still trying to figure out how Larry Johnson had a run up the middle for a loss of 89 yards. He had to be running the wrong way...


"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Blibbleblabble] #554913
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Originally Posted By: Blibbleblabble
I'm still trying to figure out how Larry Johnson had a run up the middle for a loss of 89 yards. He had to be running the wrong way...

I tried looking that up and didn't notice anything like that in the play-by-play. I can't see that ever happening lol, but if it didn't, I'm sure your score will be adjusted by Tuesday. wink



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Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Blibbleblabble] #554936
09/14/09 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: Blibbleblabble
You've convinced me Lou. Where's DB?

[/pitchforks and torches]

tongue


lol

My reasons are simple: I'm completely fine with somebody sitting by their computer while watching football all day Sunday - in fact, that sounds fun. To win this game though, I don't want to make anybody feel obligated to do that. It's the weekend - I want people to feel relaxed and not have to worry about missing a key injury because they decided to do other things on a Sunday.

Second, I've always felt that any geographic advantages or disadvantages should be minimized. The most extreme example of this is Yogi - by the time Sunday night or Monday night games are over, Yogi should long be asleep and if something were to happen during the evening games, he would be disadvantaged everytime.

As far as how the new system works, the pool of available players will be available on waivers after the first game on Sunday through Tuesday midnight (for exact times, please see my other post). Players during this time will be added via waiver priority. After Tuesday, the players not picked up through waivers will become free agents and are on a first come-first served basis.

You can still dump your players, but for a short bit of time after the games start, you might have to sit it out and wait a little bit to see if you can add them. After Tuesday though, it's the same as before. In my opinion, JL, this new rule doesn't affect your initial strategy. You can still stream players all you like. You or I (you have to remember that I employ a very similar strategy to you) might not get everyone we want, but that's what the rule is designed to do.

All of this being said, based on past history, my opinion is that this new change will not do much. Players who do research and keep up with sleepers will continue to do so and those who don't won't change either. In any case, I apologize if this new change negatively affects anyone, but I believe it's the right thing to do. All I'm doing is trying limit the amount of time that is almost mandatory that players have to be in front of computers, especially at unreasonable (in my opinion anyway) hours.

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Don Sicilia] #554949
09/14/09 10:41 AM
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My wife has often been known to refer to me as an extreme example DS, but i don't think she was referring to fantasy football lol


I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #554955
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Originally Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas
My wife has often been known to refer to me as an extreme example DS, but i don't think she was referring to fantasy football lol


lol

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Don Sicilia] #554963
09/14/09 11:37 AM
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Did you play Steve Smith this week? The NYG player did much better than the Carolina Panthers Steve Smith. clap Then again, Carolina's QB looks like he belongs in the Arena League...What is up with Jake Delhomme? uhwhat

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Don Sicilia] #554974
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Week 1 - Pre-MNF

PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left

Code:
 
     PTS    [OPT]     (P)
----------------------------
DB   138    [000]    (1)     Hear that?  Sound of McNabb's cracked rib. :( 
BA   109    [000]    (0)     4 INT from Cutler doesn't help 
----------------------------
BB   109    [000]    (2)     44 points from Eagles D
IM    75    [000]    (1)     Rivers remains
----------------------------
GO   111    [000]    (2)     Santonio picking up where he left off from Superbowl
BL    68    [000]    (1)     Has the good Steve Smith?
----------------------------
YO   130    [000]    (1)     50 pts from Brees does a body good
KF    51    [000]    (1)     Welker good for 80+ pts?  Ummmm, no.
----------------------------
JL   101    [000]    (1)     T.O. remains
LN   120    [000]    (0)     MNF watching
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JD    79    [000]    (2)     Brady and DMC vs.
DM    75    [000]    (3)     Jackson, Evans, and LDT...  a toss-up, I think
----------------------------
JG   150    [000]    (0)     Great auto-draft. ;)
PP   102    [000]    (1)     Hurt by Gonzalez 1st quarter injury
----------------------------

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Don Sicilia] #554998
09/14/09 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: Don Sicilia
Week 1 - Pre-MNF

PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left

Code:
 
     PTS    [OPT]     (P)
----------------------------
DB   138    [000]    (1)     Hear that?  Sound of McNabb's cracked rib. :( 
BA   109    [000]    (0)     4 INT from Cutler doesn't help 
----------------------------


our game was so so close DB. if cutler, forte, or hester scored i think i would i be winning by a few points. (also too who ever has the bears D i sure hope they are not your starting D)

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: goombah] #555056
09/15/09 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: goombah
Yogi-
Did you play Steve Smith this week? The NYG player did much better than the Carolina Panthers Steve Smith. clap Then again, Carolina's QB looks like he belongs in the Arena League...What is up with Jake Delhomme? uhwhat


I did play him thanks Goombah smile


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Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Don Sicilia] #555060
09/15/09 09:42 AM
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Week 1 - Final

PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left

Code:
 
     PTS    [OPT]     (P)
----------------------------
DB   146    [180]    (0)     Hear that?  Sound of McNabb's cracked rib. :( 
BA   109    [143]    (0)     4 INT from Cutler doesn't help 
----------------------------
BB   128    [150]    (0)     44 points from Eagles D
IM    90    [112]    (0)     Rivers not enough on MNF
----------------------------
GO   127    [138]    (0)     Santonio picking up where he left off from Superbowl
BL    83    [109]    (0)     Has the good Steve Smith?
----------------------------
YO   130    [137]    (0)     50 pts from Brees does a body good
KF    72    [115]    (0)     Welker good for 80+ pts?  Ummmm, no.
----------------------------
JL   107    [120]    (0)     T.O. crying at end?
LN   120    [124]    (0)     Cheering T.O. shutdown
----------------------------
JD   113    [135]    (0)     Brady 4th quarter performance leads to win
DM   105    [135]    (0)     Not enough fire power in end
----------------------------
JG   150    [189]    (0)     Great auto-draft. ;)
PP   128    [169]    (0)     Hurt by Gonzalez 1st quarter injury
----------------------------

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Don Sicilia] #555062
09/15/09 09:48 AM
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Week 1 - Standings

Code:
JG	1-0-0	1.000	147	W-1
DB	1-0-0	1.000	146	W-1
YO	1-0-0	1.000	130	W-1
BB	1-0-0	1.000	128	W-1
GO	1-0-0	1.000	127	W-1
LN	1-0-0	1.000	120	W-1
JD	1-0-0	1.000	113	W-1
PP	0-1-0	0.000	128	L-1
BA	0-1-0	0.000	109	L-1
DM	0-1-0	0.000	108	L-1
JL	0-1-0	0.000	107	L-1
IM	0-1-0	0.000	 90	L-1
BL	0-1-0	0.000	 83	L-1
KF	0-1-0	0.000	 72	L-1

 

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Don Sicilia] #555108
09/15/09 01:47 PM
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WHY THE HELL WOULD AUTODRAFT PICK SCHAUB BEFORE MATT RYAN?

I hate my team.

Offer me trades.

I need a QB.

The new waiver system is absolutely horrible.




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Longneck] #555127
09/15/09 05:32 PM
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P.S.

Hey JL! Get some RBs!




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Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Longneck] #555150
09/16/09 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: Longneck


The new waiver system is absolutely horrible.



clap

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Longneck] #555151
09/16/09 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: Longneck
P.S.

Hey JL! Get some RBs!


At least I have 2 QB's. tongue

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Just Lou] #555175
09/16/09 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: Longneck
P.S.

Hey JL! Get some RBs!


At least I have 2 QB's. tongue


I have a guy who can't stay healthy and an INT machine. But then I picked up a rookie...

Oh god I'm doomed.




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Just Lou] #555176
09/16/09 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: Longneck


The new waiver system is absolutely horrible.



clap


And why didn't we discuss it before it was implemented?




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Longneck] #555190
09/16/09 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Longneck


And why didn't we discuss it before it was implemented?


I agree, but just let it go. I have, and was probably more mad about it than anyone. 1/2 because I didn't like the change, and 1/2 because it was done after the draft without consent of the league.

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Longneck] #555192
09/16/09 02:03 PM
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I use the same system Don Sicilia implemented in my league. It's just to give everyone a fair shot at acquiring a player. The teams at the bottom of the standings should have more of a chance to improve with a roster move than the team in 1st or 2nd place.

I imagine that the decision went down something like this:

Longneck: "Who ordered the change in the waiver rules after the draft?

J Geoff: "It was the moderator."

Just Lou: "Yeah, I know. But who gave the order? I know I didn't."

J Geoff: "There was this kid I grew up with - he was younger than me. We played in our first fantasy leagues together. This was a man of vision and guts. Later, he had an idea to manage an online fantasy sports website as a stopover from the daily grind. That kid's name was Don Sicilia and the game he invented was Gangster BB Fantasy Football. Sometimes he has to make tough choices that not everyone agrees with...so when he made an adjustment to the waiver rules, I let it go. I knew Don Sicilia was busy and headstrong, always rooting for his Chicago teams. And I said to myself 'This is the fantasy football league we have chosen.' I didn't ask why the change was made because it had nothing to do with business!"

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Just Lou] #555195
09/16/09 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: Longneck


And why didn't we discuss it before it was implemented?


I agree, but just let it go. I have, and was probably more mad about it than anyone. 1/2 because I didn't like the change, and 1/2 because it was done after the draft without consent of the league.


I just found out about it yesterday, and would you have told MLK or Rosa Parks to let it go? We've got to fight these injustices, man!

And very nice, goombah. I'd order a horse's head put into your bed but you root for the Browns, and well, you've suffered enough.




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Longneck] #555196
09/16/09 02:26 PM
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lol

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Longneck] #555198
09/16/09 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: Longneck

And very nice, goombah. I'd order a horse's head put into your bed but you root for the Browns, and well, you've suffered enough.


I'll take the horse's head. The Browns misery has no end in sight!

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: goombah] #555217
09/16/09 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: goombah
Originally Posted By: Longneck

And very nice, goombah. I'd order a horse's head put into your bed but you root for the Browns, and well, you've suffered enough.


I'll take the horse's head. The Browns misery has no end in sight!


goombah if the browns win 1 game and detroit win 2 games then the browns could get tebow (yea i know the browns have two qbs right now, but would you pass a heisman trophey winner who would improve the team better than anderson or quinn)

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: goombah] #555258
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Originally Posted By: goombah
I use the same system Don Sicilia implemented in my league. It's just to give everyone a fair shot at acquiring a player. The teams at the bottom of the standings should have more of a chance to improve with a roster move than the team in 1st or 2nd place.

I imagine that the decision went down something like this:

Longneck: "Who ordered the change in the waiver rules after the draft?

J Geoff: "It was the moderator."

Just Lou: "Yeah, I know. But who gave the order? I know I didn't."

J Geoff: "There was this kid I grew up with - he was younger than me. We played in our first fantasy leagues together. This was a man of vision and guts. Later, he had an idea to manage an online fantasy sports website as a stopover from the daily grind. That kid's name was Don Sicilia and the game he invented was Gangster BB Fantasy Football. Sometimes he has to make tough choices that not everyone agrees with...so when he made an adjustment to the waiver rules, I let it go. I knew Don Sicilia was busy and headstrong, always rooting for his Chicago teams. And I said to myself 'This is the fantasy football league we have chosen.' I didn't ask why the change was made because it had nothing to do with business!"


Don Cardi? Is that you? tongue lol

And as far as the Browns, I'm just happy to have another fan on the board with a bad team. We can suffer together. Hug?


"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Blibbleblabble] #555262
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Originally Posted By: Blibbleblabble
Originally Posted By: goombah
I use the same system Don Sicilia implemented in my league. It's just to give everyone a fair shot at acquiring a player. The teams at the bottom of the standings should have more of a chance to improve with a roster move than the team in 1st or 2nd place.

I imagine that the decision went down something like this:

Longneck: "Who ordered the change in the waiver rules after the draft?

J Geoff: "It was the moderator."

Just Lou: "Yeah, I know. But who gave the order? I know I didn't."

J Geoff: "There was this kid I grew up with - he was younger than me. We played in our first fantasy leagues together. This was a man of vision and guts. Later, he had an idea to manage an online fantasy sports website as a stopover from the daily grind. That kid's name was Don Sicilia and the game he invented was Gangster BB Fantasy Football. Sometimes he has to make tough choices that not everyone agrees with...so when he made an adjustment to the waiver rules, I let it go. I knew Don Sicilia was busy and headstrong, always rooting for his Chicago teams. And I said to myself 'This is the fantasy football league we have chosen.' I didn't ask why the change was made because it had nothing to do with business!"


Don Cardi? Is that you? tongue lol

And as far as the Browns, I'm just happy to have another fan on the board with a bad team. We can suffer together. Hug?


blib i think the raiders have a chance of being secound in the AFC West...hell if san diego chokes they may win it.

also too if anybody needs a quaterback who cant stay in a retirement home just contact me.

Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: BAM_233] #555264
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The Raiders might finish in second, but might do it with only 4 or 5 wins. The whole division is bad, except San Diego.


"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
Re: 2009 Yahoo! Fantasy Football [Re: Blibbleblabble] #555265
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Originally Posted By: Blibbleblabble
The Raiders might finish in second, but might do it with only 4 or 5 wins. The whole division is bad, except San Diego.


If they had an accurate QB they could do well.




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

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