I thought Santa stuffed our stockings??

Wow, that doesn't sound good. lol

Santa only stuffs the childrens' stockings. We have to stuff our own (and that doesn't sound good, either).

Got it, thanks Fame!

Irish, you're confusing me posting the same thing in different threads!

Uh oh.... the secret of the high post count is out.

That and post whoring goes a whole long way.

I should know.

So, today the Yankees traded Austin Jackson, Phil Coke and Ian Kennedy in a 3-team deal with Detroit and Arizona to land Curtis Granderson. As much as I like Granderson, I think they should have held onto Jackson. If to not only include him in a potential Halladay trade, I would have liked to see the kid play in 2010 or 2011 because I've heard nothing but positive things about him. I just don't understand it. Again, Granderson's a very good player but do we really need him? Our outfield wasn't horrible but if I'm the Yankees, I'm looking for rotation help, not centerfielders.

Plus, add in the fact that now the Yankees are short 2 less guys in the bullpen (Phil Coke and Brian Bruney who was traded to Washington on Monday). I think it may be safe to assume that Joba or Hughes will begin 2010 in the bullpen unless they have other guys lined up for the job.

Why the Tigers traded Granderson.
Granderson too nice, not productive

screw the yankees...the cubs should had pulled the trigger

Please, they should worry about trying to trade Milton Bradley before adding another outfielder.

rumor is the yankees are now interested matt holliday...i thought they would have a quiet off season...at least they said that.

Yeah, I've heard they're interested in Jason Bay and John Lackey too. It's the Yankees. Their name is going to be thrown into the mix whether it's true or not.

FINALLY, a Red Sox article that I agree with

Bye, Godzilla! It was fun while it lasted. I hope you enjoy the West Coast. You'll be missed.

I figured he'd be gone (little sad to see him go). I wonder what they'll do with Damon? Personally, I'd like for them to sign him but not for more than 2 years. If not, see if they can't grab Bay although they don't need him.

whats with the yankees grabbing for ex red sox player's?

If they can still play and contribute, why pass on them? I think the better question is why is Boston passing on these guys who've helped them be successful?

its not like it hurts them bad...its not like the red sox sold the god of baseball or anything

Doesn't hurt them that bad? Boston has almost no pop in their lineup. Sure, they've got pitching and a bullpen but their lineup is not half of what it was 2 years ago.

I think Boston has been pretty good at assessing talent objectively. They were able to separate themselves from Pedra and Nomar at the right time, and did well to jettison Manny when they did.

They may acquire Adrian Gonzalez, which will allow Youkilis to go to third. If this happens, they can be a very scary team. Of course, where Bay and Matt Holliday end up are the next big moves of the offseason. The Mets desperately need one (I'd guess Bay), and I'll predict that Holliday ends up in San Francisco.

Holliday would have to take way less than he is asking to come to San Francisco. The Giants have said they aren't interested in Bay or Holliday and are only looking at the second tier guys and trades.

Yet they'll probably still make the playoffs. Again.

Still surprised that Matsui walked. I mean you would think the fans would pressure New York to keep the reigning World Series MVP. Nevermind that Godzilla has been the reliable Paul O'Neil-type outfielder.

idk who the cubs are interested in anymore since they said the would like to get holliday, rick ankiel, byrd, and i won't be surprised if they try to get damon since he must likely walk.

I didn't even know Marlon Byrd was still in baseball.

How about landing Curtis Granderson? one SI.com guy loved it so much he came up with that:

"Any criticism of him - Granderson - is nonsense; the decline in his topline statistics over the last few years is wholly the result of his being asked to face a lot more left-handers, whom he seems to be unable to hit. Since 2006 his OPS against right-handers has gone from .805 to 1.014 to .900 to .897, perfectly normal variation around a stable talent level. With his gifts on the bases and in the field, he's basically a healthier version of Carlos Beltran. That's a hell of a player to have locked up for four years for just a few million more in total than Beltran will be making this year alone."

How can a guy say something like that and just get away with it? I even drafted Granderson with my 2nd pick in the draft after his 20-20-20-20 season so I do like him, but he's nowhere near Beltran's league.

Beltran is an established elite CF and has been one for almost a whole decade. he topped at 150 OPS+, .982 OPS, 41 HR and 42 SB and dipped at 96/.774/16/17, all the lows in his first season as a Met. the rest of the time, in a 10 year span, he's been way above average for a CF while toying with 40/40 skills; now, Granderson has played 4 full seasons, is absolutely helpless against LHP and topped at 135/.913/30/26, having had one amazing career season and declining ever since. I don't care it's because he's facing more LHP. his best HR total was also in 2009, so you can have it both ways -- the bad comes with the good. he hasn't cut down his strikeouts or significantly improved his walk rate and his impressive skill to hit triples seems to be lost as he went from 23 to 8 even playing more.

I agree, Tony. I like Granderson, but he's a few rungs down the ladder from Beltran.

I'm so confused. The Yankees traded Javier Vazquez a few years ago, and now we traded Melky Cabrera to get Vazquez BACK???? And we originally traded Nick Johnson a few years ago as part of the original trade to get Vazquez, and now they're BOTH coming back?????

And the Melk-man is GONE??? WTF?

I may be wrong but isn't Melky a center fielder as well as Granderson? Even with the critics of Granderson, I would take him over Cabrera any day. Not too many guys can hit 20-30 homeruns from the leadoff spot. And as far as Nick Johnson, I kind of agree. I don't know why they didn't just resign Matsui at DH.

But seriously, with the lineup you have for the Yankees how can you complain about anything they do at this point?

They needed more pitching and unfortunately, Melky was expendable when they traded for Granderson because they had 4 outfielders. I scratched my head at first when I heard they traded for Vazquez but they could have done worse with a #4 starter. Joba will probably be #5 which means Hughes may stay in the bullpen as the setup man again this season.

Since Matsui's gone, I thought that Granderson would take Damon's spot, Damon would become the DH, and the outfield would consist of Swisher, Granderson and Cabrera. Is Nady coming back??