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Re: Cleveland Mafia
[Re: M.M. Floors]
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10/01/09 01:11 PM
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Floors, almost any organic substance can be fermented into alcohol. Fruit, such as grapes, can ferment naturally because some yeast is present on the skins. Other substances, such as grain, potatoes, honey, etc., can produce alcohol if they're mashed and mixed with water and cooked (a "mash"). Yeast is added, and the starch turns into sugar, which becomes alcohol. The mash is then heated to just under 100 degrees C. Since alcohol has a lower boiling point than water, the alcohol vapors in the mash will rise into a series of pipes and coils, which are cooled by water applied to the outside. The cooling converts the alcohol vapors into liquid that eventually becomes whiskey.
There's nothing illegal about producing alcohol or whiskey--as long as the producer pays taxes on the product. And the taxes are pretty steep. There's a big market in America for "moonshine"--whiskey and even pure drinking alcohol that's produced in distilleries that are hidden or are masquerading as some other kind of factory, and that don't pay taxes. Even after the repeal of Prohibition in America (1933), plenty of Mobs were--and still are--producing untaxed alcohol. Meyer Lansky even started a business called Molaska, which produced powdered molasses as a cheap substitute for sugare used in distilling alcohol. While he wasn't making whiskey per se, he was selling it to illegal whiskey-makers. The government closed him down.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Cleveland Mafia
[Re: Turnbull]
#556402
10/01/09 01:20 PM
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pizzaboy
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Meyer Lansky even started a business called Molaska, which produced powdered molasses as a cheap substitute for sugare used in distilling alcohol.
"The trucks . . . owned by your father." Great chemistry lesson, TB!!
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Cleveland Mafia
[Re: M.M. Floors]
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10/02/09 03:18 PM
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Turnbull
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You're welcome!  Not correct. During Prohibition (1920-33), it was illegal to "manufacture, transport or sell" alcoholic beverages. It was not illegal for you, as an individual, to drink alcoholic beverages, but of course, anyone who sold you the drinks was breaking the law. So, there was no legal way for you to buy beer, wine and whiskey, although in practice, the law was widely ignored and only sporadically enforced. Before Prohibition, and after Prohibition (including now) it was and is illegal in America to manufacture and sell untaxed alcoholic beverages.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Cleveland Mafia
[Re: Turnbull]
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10/02/09 03:30 PM
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Before Prohibition, and after Prohibition (including now) it was and is illegal in America to manufacture and sell untaxed alcoholic beverages. The government stepped back into getting tons of revenue from the sale of booze. Much like the mobsters did during Prohibition.
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Re: Cleveland Mafia
[Re: Turnbull]
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10/02/09 03:33 PM
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pizzaboy
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It was not illegal for you, as an individual, to drink alcoholic beverages, but of course, anyone who sold you the drinks was breaking the law. Much like the gambling laws of today. In almost all cases, making a bet is not illegal, taking one is.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Cleveland Mafia
[Re: Turnbull]
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10/03/09 10:55 AM
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It's like busting the hookers and letting the johns go. Leave my personal life out of this, TB  .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Cleveland Mafia
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10/03/09 02:09 PM
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Stay away from the streetwalkers on Emmons Avenue! Nah, the Russian call girls might live there, but they all work out of the Upper East Side  .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Cleveland Mafia
[Re: DiMaggio68]
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10/27/09 12:47 AM
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Anybody have a good list on current Cleveland family members? 1. Ralph "Bosie" Bucci/59 2. William "Billy" DeNova/68 3. William "Billy D" Dileno/72 4. Joseph Gallo/71 5. Joseph "Joe Loose" Iacobacci/59 6. John Iorillo/64 7. Ronald Lucarelli Jr/51 8. Nicholas "Nick" Nardi/82 9. John Oliverio/56 10. Russell Papalardo/67 11. Peter "Petey Boy" Sanzo/74 12. Anthony Velotta/67
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