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Re: Old Mafia vs. New Mafia
[Re: M.M. Floors]
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10/13/09 04:04 PM
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Just because it's written in books doesn't mean it's true. I would like to see some more information regarding that society of knights because to be honest with you I think it's all bullshit and just because some guy said the Mafia should act the same way as them doesn't mean the Mafia came from them.
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Re: Old Mafia vs. New Mafia
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10/13/09 04:12 PM
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Just because it's written in books doesn't mean it's true. OK.... we're making progress now. Compare this statement to one you made two months ago: My family goes back hundreds and maybe even a thousand years ago, my family would've known this stuff because back in Sicily my family worked as peasants on land which included a castle. The research you two are providing could very well be false since there are no facts that we know for sure are true, but I'm going by what my family says, since my family even has written down facts proving my statement.
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Re: Old Mafia vs. New Mafia
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10/13/09 04:14 PM
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Just because my family has written down evidence does not make it a book.
Ya know one thing about us wise guys? The hustle never ends.- Tony Soprano
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Re: Old Mafia vs. New Mafia
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10/13/09 04:53 PM
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Just because my family has written down evidence does not make it a book. No disrespect meant against your family, but it doesn't necessarily make it true either.
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Re: Old Mafia vs. New Mafia
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10/13/09 04:58 PM
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You have a point there SC, I see where you're coming from, but since my family is a primary resource I prefer getting information from a primary resource whether than a secondary resource. Most likely my family is correct, but no one may ever know the true origins, but like I said it's most likely that my family is correct since they are a primary resource and they witnessed things.
Ya know one thing about us wise guys? The hustle never ends.- Tony Soprano
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Re: Old Mafia vs. New Mafia
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10/13/09 06:43 PM
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You have a point there M.M. All of us are still gonna believe the same things we always did no matter what anyone else says.
Ya know one thing about us wise guys? The hustle never ends.- Tony Soprano
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Re: Old Mafia vs. New Mafia
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10/13/09 09:57 PM
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The problem for all of us is that very, very little valid research has been done on the overall subject of organized crime in general, and the Mafia in particular. Gangsters aren't the kind of leave their collected papers to university libraries for people like us to study--particularly if they're following omerta. So, writers tend to rehash the same (wrong) "facts" again and again in their books and articles. And they most often choose the most sensational-sounding "facts" to help them sell their books and articles, knowing that nobody will be able to refute them. Case in point: Meyer Lansky was reputed to be worth $300 million, the "richest gangster in history." All Lansky bios and article, except for one, reprinted that "fact." But Lansky was one of the very, very few gangsters to have a competent biographer. Robert Lacey, in his superb book, "Little Man - Meyer Lansky and the Gangster Life," traced the $300 million figure to journalist Hank Messick, who told Lacey he'd heard it secondhand and used it in his own 1965 article because it was "a big figure." Lacey's own research indicated that Lansky, at his peak, was worth no more than $5-6 million. "Fantasy is an integral element of how organized crime is experienced, perceived and reported."
Under those circumstances, family tales and recollections are at least as valid, if not more so, than the stuff that writers use. But family recollections also can get distorted or embellished over time.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Old Mafia vs. New Mafia
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10/13/09 10:07 PM
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Case in point: Meyer Lansky was reputed to be worth $300 million, the "richest gangster i
I'm reading Blue Thunder at the moment, about the murder of the boat racing king Don Aronow in Miami. The author claims to have been told by an FBI agent that Lansky had 450 Mil at the time of his death. Never heard that figure before.
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Re: Old Mafia vs. New Mafia
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10/13/09 11:19 PM
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Lacey says Lansky was almost flat broke at the time of his death. I tend to think Lansky must have had some hidden away but nothing like the millions talked about. Maybe a couple hundred g's or something.
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Re: Old Mafia vs. New Mafia
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09/13/14 05:20 AM
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There is an Urban Legend in Sicily that on that evening a Sicilian woman went into one of the churches in Palermo and found her daughter being raped by a French soldier. Legend has it that she then ran out into the streets yelling "Ma fia Ma fia" which translates into "My daughter! My daughter! Some believe that this is where the word "Mafia" might have originated from.
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There is no such urban legend in Sicily. For starters, they know their own language. "Ma" means "but" in Sicilian, not "my". "Look Ma No hand's !!" - Jim Carey (The Mask
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Yeah Your Gangster Alright!! Keep making excuses on why our country is in bad shape just admit your a hump already
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