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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: SC] #552657
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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: Mignon] #553359
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That little girl that was kidnapped when she was 11 years old, Jaycee Duggan? My daughter e-mailed me to tell me her mother, until recently worked at the same school my daughter did. eek

Anyway, I'm sure you've all at least heard this girl was abucted, lived in tents outside the house and the man who abducted her fathered two children by her. It's so disgusting and sad. frown I'm sure every parent who has a missing child is given a bit of hope, but this story is truly awful. Yet, thankfully the girl is alive if not messed up in the head.

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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #553369
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TIS, I've been following this story the last few days. That poor family. My mother said that she saw on the news tonight that the police had received a complaint that there were children living in tents in the backyard, but they never went past the gate. I haven't heard that, but can you imagine if that's true??

Anderson Cooper from CNN interviewed Elizabeth Smart and her dad about what Jaycee can expect to feel. While I appreciate the horror that Elizabeth experienced, she was missing for 9 months not 18 years, and she didn't have a child older than she was when she disappeared which was fathered by her kidnapper.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: Sicilian Babe] #553371
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
My mother said that she saw on the news tonight that the police had received a complaint that there were children living in tents in the backyard, but they never went past the gate. I haven't heard that, but can you imagine if that's true??


The County Sheriff admitted that his office "fell down" on the job. The next door neighbor complained to police three years ago about strange noises (of children) coming from the backyard, but the police supposedly found nothing.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: SC] #553375
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In their defense, he might have hidden them while the cops were there, but I would imagine that a complaint involving a twice-convicted sex offender and children would have been investigated pretty well.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: Sicilian Babe] #553376
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
In their defense, he might have hidden them while the cops were there, but I would imagine that a complaint involving a twice-convicted sex offender and children would have been investigated pretty well.


Could he have (quickly) hid evidence of some kids living in that backyard? I don't think so... it was poor police work.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: SC] #553380
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I heard earlier that one of the neighbors would question the tents, and told her husband it sounded like kids were back there. Her husband, more or less, told her to to stay out of it. confused

My daughter called, said the Jaycee's mom was secretary at their school and transferred to another nearby school. She said everyone at the school plans to do something for the family, but not sure what.

I heard earlier that the girl,of course was glad to be home, but harbored a lot of guilt for bonding with this guy. Can you imagine?

TIS


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #553381
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I heard earlier that the girl,of course was glad to be home, but harbored a lot of guilt for bonding with this guy. Can you imagine?


From the little reading I've done on this (hostage type situations) that is a natural reaction - to form some sort of bond with the captor.

Poor kid was robbed of her childhood and treated like an animal. She's NEVER gonna be "right" in the head.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: SC] #553385
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hey TIS when a sick fuck takes a childhood from a child they deserve a more severe punishment than being hanged by there balls...and i feel that every sex offender should get there balls cut off, so they wont do this. woman (or other words teachers) would be harder to deal with.

Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: BAM_233] #553386
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The first thing is isolation, such as putting them in a basement or a shed and then cutting off all contact with the outside world. That's why he never took those children to a doctor. That's why they never attended school. This way he could completely control them.

If this sick fuck and his sicker wife were the only people this poor girl had contact with, who knows what they told her.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: Sicilian Babe] #553390
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Did the 2 kids come home with her? I haven't read anything on this story.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: Mignon] #553409
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Mig,

I haven't read anything more about the kids. Man, that poor girl, her kids, not to mention the girls' entire family, have some major adjusting (and therapy) to work thru this whole situation. frown


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #553415
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I hope all concerned will be able to adjust to their new way of life.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: Sicilian Babe] #553416
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
TIS, I've been following this story the last few days. That poor family. My mother said that she saw on the news tonight that the police had received a complaint that there were children living in tents in the backyard, but they never went past the gate. I haven't heard that, but can you imagine if that's true??

Anderson Cooper from CNN interviewed Elizabeth Smart and her dad about what Jaycee can expect to feel. While I appreciate the horror that Elizabeth experienced, she was missing for 9 months not 18 years, and she didn't have a child older than she was when she disappeared which was fathered by her kidnapper.


The strange thing about it is the girl was kidnapped at age 11 by a oakland guy and still stayed with the dude for 18 years. She never once thought of turning the child molester in before? Sounds like a real strange gal.

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Originally Posted By: DiMaggio68
Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
TIS, I've been following this story the last few days. That poor family. My mother said that she saw on the news tonight that the police had received a complaint that there were children living in tents in the backyard, but they never went past the gate. I haven't heard that, but can you imagine if that's true??

Anderson Cooper from CNN interviewed Elizabeth Smart and her dad about what Jaycee can expect to feel. While I appreciate the horror that Elizabeth experienced, she was missing for 9 months not 18 years, and she didn't have a child older than she was when she disappeared which was fathered by her kidnapper.


The strange thing about it is the girl was kidnapped at age 11 by a oakland guy and still stayed with the dude for 18 years. She never once thought of turning the child molester in before? Sounds like a real strange gal.


i wont be surprised if they told her that if she ran away that he would find her and kill her as well as her parents...that alone will scare a 11 year old, and he might had made more comments about that over the 18 years.

Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: BAM_233] #553457
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Strange? Yes, I'm sure she was. Because when you're kidnapped and raped repeatedly and forced to bear the child of your rapist by the time you're 14, that would make you really strange.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: SC] #553460
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Originally Posted By: SC
The County Sheriff admitted that his office "fell down" on the job. The next door neighbor complained to police three years ago about strange noises (of children) coming from the backyard, but the police supposedly found nothing.


Doesn't that happen alot where abused kids fall through the cracks cuz children services don't do thir jobs?


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: Mignon] #554898
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Not really from my neck of the woods, but close enough...

It looks like a sad ending to the case of a missing Yale student who was supposed to have been married today. She has been missing for the past 5 days and CT police now report finding a body in the school building in which she was last seen.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: SC] #554899
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I was hoping that she would turn out to be a runaway bride. Poor thing.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: Sicilian Babe] #554900
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How sad. It seems I just heard this girl was missing and suddently she' found dead (assuming it's her). frown How awful for the parent.

I still think of Natalie Holloway and how her mother tried so hard to find her to no avail. Just imagine, as a parent, not knowing where your child is? Not able to put her in a final resting place. What a heavy load to carry year after year your whole life.

TIS


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #554956
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There was a horrible murder in our region last week. A loving 85 year old grandmother was killed and then her house was set on fire in an attempt to cover their tracks...

Today the police have caught their man. Apparently he rang a taxi to take him home......

I'm just wondering why the police took a week to find him?


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Originally Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas
A loving 85 year old grandmother was killed and then her house was set on fire in an attempt to cover their tracks...


Did they say, "why"? (i.e. robbery gone bad)


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: SC] #555059
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They did not know SC. Because of the fire damage they could not work out if anything was gone from the house. I think they assumed so though.


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That is awful Yogi. Something about an older person, who seems so helpless (much like a child I guess), makes it very sad. Plus, the fact the the house was set on fire to destroy evidence is so damn cold.....then again I suppose most murders are coldhearted. frown

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Statewide, New Jersey burglaries on the rise. People out of work, taking drugs, need money for drugs = burglary.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: MaryCas] #555171
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Crime is up a bit here too. We live in a community where a lot of people often leave doors to their homes and cars unlocked. It's virtually a crime-free community. My wife's business, a Montessori school, is a half mile from our home, and sometimes her office door is unlocked.

This past Sunday night around midnight we got a call from the police that her door was unlocked, which was no big deal, but I went out and met him to lock the door. I knew the cop and he told me that a doctor's office a mile away had a large plasma tv stolen, so the police are doing routine business checks, checking all doors in the township each night.

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We've noticed an upsurge in crime as well - shoplifting at the local mall, burglaries, robberies, etc. It's typical during a poor economy to see such a thing.

Is anyone following the story of the Yale graduate whose body was found on Sunday? What a sad thing, such a young, fine mind snuffed out like that.

I also saw a woman interviewed on the news this morning whose daughter went missing 21 years ago. The current theory is that she was taken by the same man who held that girl Jaycee for 18 years. As a mother, my heart just broke listening to her.


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Re: News from your neck of the woods [Re: Sicilian Babe] #556792
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A couple of tragic tales.

Early Sat. morning there was an accident on the bridge connecting downtown harrisburg with the neighboring county. A cab driver from Ghana, who was working 3 jobs to support his wife and 2 young sons, and a social worker, his fare were killed. the worker's husband survived the crash that was caused by an oncoming car that crossed lanes...because the driver was texting. The driver was unscathed.

A woman, who gained publicity and created a controversy a couple years ago for carrying an open firearm wherever she went (kids' soccer games, the daycare that she ran, the movies, etc., was found shot to death along with her husband.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1

A woman, who gained publicity and created a controversy a couple years ago for carrying an open firearm wherever she went (kids' soccer games, the daycare that she ran, the movies, etc., was found shot to death along with her husband.


I remember her, Klyd. They covered her in the New York papers: Pistol Packin' Soccer Mom.

Sad, but I'll bet she was one of those staunch, Sarah Palin type Republicans, who swore that "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."

Well, now she knows firsthand.


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The following letter to the editor in my paper this morning about gun ownership, and how it makes the world a safer place, makes absolutely no sense to me. The more guns that people own, the safer the world will be??? confused

A Haverstraw homeowner's judicious use of a firearm, as reported in Monday's article, "Haverstraw man shoots two home intruders," was justified under the Second Amendment. His use of that firearm was within the law. Kudos to that gentleman; these miscreant individuals just may think twice about doing this again.

On the same day, another article, "A new presidency drives up gun sales," bolsters the fear of the American citizen whose rights are threatened by the liberals. In that article, Jackie Hilly, executive director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence, insists that gun ownership will lead to catastrophic results, citing "scientific evidence." Not so, Ms. Hilly. Studies by major law enforcement entities have shown that the reverse is true.

Many studies conducted by major universities confirm that gun ownership is related to a lower incidence of crime.

Ms. Hilly, it's time that NYAGV own up to the fact that gun owners do help lower the crime rate.


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