I'm so sorry John Petosa

My condolences as well. Sorry for your loss.

2 years ago, today.

Never forget what those mvtherfvcking bastards did.

2 years ago, today. And Bin Laden is still alive.

(WTF is wrong with us?)

2 years ago, today. Seems like yesterday.

2 years ago, today; I cried.

I was just watching a show on The Discovery Channel that made me MAD AS HELL. The show was about Islam and the middle east. It almost seemed like they were trying to show THE ATTACKS (I hate it when they are refered to as tragedys...they were ATTACKS) in a positve light. The show said that America needs to learn why the world hates us. It almost sounded like they want America to apoligze for making the terrorists mad! It makes me sick to my stomach to hear B.S. like that. God bless the men and women who serve our country, God bless our President and GOD BLESS AMERICA! Bring Bin Laden's head home in a bag!!!

As did most of us.

With all the hoopla over the anniversary there are tons of tv shows offering documentaries on the attacks. I was watching a special on A&E the other day and I was (still) glued to the screen. Watching the clips of those brave firemen and cops going into the buildings, knowing that there was a fairly good chance they were gonna die, is STILL very hard to view. Watching all those poor office workers pouring out of the towers, covered with soot, faces etched in fear, STILL has me wondering how terrible it must have been for them. Reliving all those stories about last minute telephone calls to family members for those trapped by the flames STILL makes me wonder how those family members are surviving.

Two days ago I cried, too. Only this time the tears stayed inside. Theres a certain resignation in me that revenge against the attackers, and those who planned it, won't be good enough.

Will we EVER get over this?

SHOULD we?

2 years ago? Christ, it does not seem that long ago.

When I found out, I was all like: "shit!" I was sick that day, I went with my mum over to visit a friend who was completely stoned and listening to the radio. They said:
"Did you hear about the planes that just crashed in New York? There's like this, domino effect happening!" (Then they proceeded to fall asleep for 5 minutes, then they woke up and made 10 cups of coffee). So we went home, I looked at the TV, and I was completely awestruck.

It's terrifying.

And in all honesty, THAT'S war for you (yes, this is a form of war. Explosions, killing, destruction.) Wouldn't you think after experiencing the terror and horror of this stuff you might not support doing the same thing back? I know what kind of reaction this is gonna get, but you have to realise I'm not glorifying the attacks, I'm not making them out differently, I'm not being disrespectful to the victims. I was so sad that day that it's escalated to this. It's scary. It's fucking scary and you guys all know it, don't you? You've had it in your own country!!! It's terrifying, sad, destructive...

*sigh* So sad.

I give all possible respect and condolences to victims, families, and those haunted by this. I was. Not to the extent of your average American, but it really saddened me.

What a terrible thing to happen. I've heard so many stories, seen so many pictures, it's scary.

I dreaded waking up this morning. I knew it would be something that we have to remember. But a part of me wants to close my eyes and pretend it never happened. Too much grief and pain to bear. We all have to get up and go to work and do our daily duties today. But it all seems so insignificant. I cried 2 years ago too. I looked at the tv in disbelief. I don't believe that same gut wrenching feeling will subside today. But I will keep busy, do what needs to be done today. The alternate is to just sit and reflect. I feel I'd be nothing but a marshmellow in a corner if I did that.

I was 22, going on 23. A year fresh out of college, with my whole life in front of me. I had taken a job as a small-time project engineer.

I came in the office at about 8. I noticed something strange. It was silent. I opened the doors to where the desks and cubicals are. In the back corner, about 15 guys were packed together. They were watching a TV someone had moved in. I saw a little part of it. The World Trade Center. I walked over to where one of the vets stood. He stared in disbelief and out of the corner of his mouth he whispered to me, "Get those people outta there. That sucker is gonna fall."

2 minutes later it did. We had the TV going for the couple of weeks.

It made us realize something. I remember later in the day they showed a video of many people somewhere in the Middle East. They made their hands form a "V" for Victory. I didn't know it much until then. We are hated.

Most of the guys said "in the next 5 years, they're will be another one. Maybe worse."

I can't even begin to imagine. This one still hurts, and it always will.

I love this picture.

Well

The Best Military In the World

The Best Intelignce...

AND WE CANT FIND A TALL GUY WITH A BEARD!

It almost sounded like they want America to apoligze for making the terrorists mad!

Just out of interest, do any of you know why the terrorists did this? I hate what they did and I would take Osama out myself if I could, but there must be a reason somewhere, even if it is wrapped up in lies and propaganda. Any clues?

Most Americans just have a different culuture than they do. We arent as strict on our women. They fell that is wrong to show a womans body.
Actuaually Jihad means "stuggle to introduce Islam to other lands" or somthing to that extent.
So because moslty of our cultural differences and many other things they have a hatred towards us.

And don't you think that by understanding why people hates the US the governement could make peace and improve their relationship and status in front of the world. If the US could listen for the cries of help of other countries, I'm sure as hell that his crap would've never happened.

Raymundo-

Welcome. In My opinion, the people that did the attacks had their own personal reasons to do so. Not to justify them. But maybe they had this growing hate against the US. Who knows? An histroy of murdered relatives or firends? Years and years of having a country in need of help.

Giorgio Luigi Gambino

I wish it were that simple DM.

It's only a matter of time until we got Laden and Saddam. We have special forces squads that are JUST for getting these two. Hopefully they will be punished painfully and on to end up in hell.

Originaly posted by Don Giorgio Gambino: No, I dont give a damn WHY they did it, I only care about REVENGE and never letting it happen again!

Vengence Only Begots more vengence....

You know, last semester a teacher of mine touched on one of the best reasons on why the Middle East hates us. Our three most important things in the country are, historically and theoretically, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness," followed by secondary elements such as family, religion, and culture. In Middle Eastern society, it is the other way around; family, religion, and culture comes first, whereas "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" come second. This is a very telling difference between our two societies in the sense that they are diametrically opposed to one another. Countless other reasons exist as to why they hate us, but this is a major factor of the hatred of the West exhibited by many Muslim societies.

Originaly posted by Mike Sulivan: Not if all those BASTARDS are DEAD!

The "bastards" are always there NGE. And which bastards are these? You wanna nuke the Middle East?

You wanna blow everything up? This makes you better than them, how? It is terrorism man, and you know it.

If 9/11 was such a terrible and horrible thing, then why are you going and repeating it except to a larger but less notable extent? Because they attacked civilians. What is it, 500,000 Iraqi children expected to die? I dunno, but you've killed a lot more civilians, and little good is being done.

i remember where i was when i found out, period 2 in the library. the librarian pretty much knew everything. everyone looked at her like she was a whack job. 2 periods later, in period 4, the principal told all teachers to check their email. the email was telling teachers to continue as if it was a normal day and turn off the tv because "IT WASN'T EDUCATIONAL." that's right. do you know how pissed we were? we were like, "what?! our kids will be reading this one day in their history books!" i don't know if it was because people were upset or what, but it was definetly lame.

Second period religon. The assistant princapal came in and told the teacher to tell us. They didn't let us outside, and by period five the Principal told the teachers to turn off T.V.s,radios, even some computers. But the teachers said to hell with that and left them on anyway.

Originaly posted by Anton The Penguin: YES Again...YES I dont give a damn about Iraqi children.

Damn, remind me never to piss off Nice Guy Eddie!

Anton The Penguin - I don't think you understand something here: we were attacked. In your pacifist nature, I guess it is OK to just sit back and do nothing, waiting for another attack, but in my view, it's about time something is done about terrorism, and Bush, so far, has done a lot more than I expected him to. Civilian casualties, my friend, are a by-product of war and can't be prevented, but I think we've been doing a pretty damn good job of keeping them minimal. It's not good that some civilians are getting killed, but again, it is inevitable in war. Your bombing point is also off: if we have to bomb every terrorist hideout in every country in the world, if that is what it takes to lessen the threat of terrorism and eventually vanquish it, then that is what needs to be done. It's a matter of protecting ourselves, Anton The Penguin.

Nice Guy Eddie - Eloquently spoken... I've been watching a lot of the specials that they've had on lately, and it still sends chills through my spine to see those towers fall, because of some crazed, psycho, terrorist lunatics. When I see the people on the streets holding pictures of their lost relatives it really makes me respect all that President Bush is doing.

I love how alot of the anti-war people love to talk about how America causes so many civilian casualties.

I guess that all those people who died in WTC weren't casualties then? They started it. We are gonna finish it.

NGE...I applaud you!

Look...

The Iraqis Did not Attack us. The Afganis Didnt Attack us. The Terrorists did. And In both wars in those Countries their was colateral damage but to the extent that We declared war on the countries and NOT the Terror and Opresion! We did not handle the War Correctly...Especialy Iraq...

Anoter Revolution has come in America were the People are not allowed to make their own opinion.

We need another Revolution...

You sure are full of shit, bro...I like ya, but you're quite wrong on this one.

I was reading through some of the old threads here and... got the chills when I saw this one! A two year old thread worthy of rememberance...

i got the chills just from catching the topic itself... i still remember very clearly all that happened around me that day...