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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: DE NIRO]
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05/22/10 01:23 PM
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A new book on Lucky Luciano to be released on the 31st Aug 2010 on Amazon. Lucky Luciano: The Real and the Fake Gangster Lucky Luciano Book on Amazon No review on the book though.. Are you going to read this, De Niro? If so, we'd appreciate a review. And, PB: how was the Lepke book?
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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09/17/10 11:51 AM
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pizzaboy
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Not a book, but an EXCELLENT magazine article on Henry Hill in this month's British edition of GQ Magazine (September 2010). I accidentally found it at a Barnes and Noble in Manhattan, but I can't find an online link. I'm not sure if you'll be able to find it in other areas of the U.S., but if you happen to live in the U.K. or in the New York City area, it's a must read with some great pics. Here's the cover:
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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09/18/10 10:58 AM
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I just picked up the new Luciano bio at my local library. I've only read the first three chapters, but so far so good. "Lucky Luciano: The Real and the Fake Gangster," by Tim Newark. Here's the synopsis from the publisher: For the first 25 years of his criminal career, Lucky Luciano was a vicious mobster who rose to become the multi-millionaire king of the New York underworld. For the next 25 years of his life, Luciano was a legend—but a fake master criminal without real power, his evil reputation manipulated and maintained by the government agents who had put him behind bars. That is the astonishing conspiracy revealed in Tim Newark’s myth-busting book.
Drawing on secret government documents from archives in America and Europe, Newark tells the real story of the legendary gangster from his early days as a top hit man for the mob to his exploits running sex and narcotics empires. Newark reveals for the first time, Luciano’s transatlantic trip to Nazi Germany to set up a drugs importing racket. Then comes prison for Luciano—but his reputation is only enhanced when it is claimed that he is winning World War Two for the Allies with secret help during fighting in Sicily and the Mediterranean. Through painstaking research, Newark exposes the truth about what Luciano really did do to help the Allies in the war.
With his expulsion from the USA, Luciano returned to Italy where he became the arch villain for international law enforcement agencies. He was reputed to head a massive transatlantic narcotics network, but Newark reveals how Luciano was being used by government agents to justify their own bloated law-enforcement budgets. It was an extraordinary conspiracy in which Luciano—the fake master criminal—became the victim of far bigger powers around him. Newark provides evidence that, at one time, he was even working as a Cold War agent, helping the US government fight Communism in Sicily. It is an extraordinary story that has never been told before—in which the American Mafia becomes entangled with foreign war and Cold War conspiracy.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: pizzaboy]
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09/19/10 06:05 PM
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I just picked up the new Luciano bio at my local library. I've only read the first three chapters, but so far so good. "Lucky Luciano: The Real and the Fake Gangster," by Tim Newark. Look forward to a review PB. Speaking of Luciano, has anyone read this book? I was flipping through it in Border's today. I decided against buying it for the price but the author had some interesting hypotheses. He argued that it was primarily Lansky and only secondarily the US government/Genovese that wanted Luciano out of post war Cuba. Supposedly Lanksy had little intention of sharing his Havana spoils or authority in Cuba. Also on that note the author argues that it was Lansky and Trafficante who were behind the murders of Anastasia and Scalise and that this was again primarily a warning not to challenge the then current division of spoils in Havana, as Anastasia was attempting to do.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Lilo]
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09/20/10 12:36 PM
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pizzaboy
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I don't believe that, Lilo. Lansky was Luciano's most trusted ally during his 10 year prison term, laying the groundwork for Luciano's early release.
Lansky was involved in Cuba before Luciano got involved with the U.S. Government at the Port of N.Y., not to mention the Allied invasion of Sicily (and I think Luciano's invovement in both were greatly exaggerated, for what it's worth).
So why would Lansky have bothered? Why would he have reached out to "Socks" Lanza and Albert Anastasia, knowing full well that Cuban gaming was on the horizon?
Believe it or not, Luciano was branded as "half-a-rat" at the time by some of the Italians, and it was Lansky who put their minds at ease and assured them that they should do Charley's bidding.
So again, if you're Lansky, and you want Cuba all to yourself, why bother going to bat for Luciano to get him out of the can?
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Lilo]
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09/20/10 10:28 PM
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One of the reasons Lansky lived to age 81, and died peacefully, was that he was always willing to share--and that included Cuba. He was very tight with Cuban dictator Fungencio Batista, but he used his influence to allow other mobsters (notably Santos Trafficante) to have interests in casinos other than the Nacional, where Lansky's brother Jake reigned supreme.
In 1957, Hilton announced its intention to build a hotel/casino in Havana. The Cuban hotel workers' union wanted a big share in that hotel, and Batista appointed a Cuban, Roberto "Chiri" Mendoza, to be the local contractor. Albert Anastasia had been talking to Mendoza about getting a piece of the action. Mendoza had been staying at NYC's Warwick Hotel--as had Santos Trafficante--and Anastasia was seen in the hotel on the day he was whacked.
There's not much reason to doubt that Vito Genovese and Carlo Gambino arranged Anastasia's assassination. But, if Cuba was involved, the finger points at Trafficante, not Lansky.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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10/16/10 05:04 PM
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I have just finished reading "Mafia son" by Sandra Harmon. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mafia-Son-Scarpa...5666&sr=1-1The book is about the infamous Greg Scarpa - both father and son. The book is well written and it delves into the murky dealings between Scarpa SR and his FBI handlers (Greg Scarpa senior had been an FBI informant for most of his "career"). The handlers are alledged to have known what Greg was doing (he wasnt nicknamed the Grim Reaper for nothing) and even provided him with information to assist him but this was also a 2 way relationship. Scarpa is even alledged to have assisted the FBI in forcing a Ku Klux Klan member to reveal the location of three bodies of murdered civil rights workers in Mississippi The book also deals with Scarpa Junior and his ultimate incararation where he discovered info relating to 9/11 but the feds refused to take him seriously. The book made me loath Linda Schiro - Greg seniors long time mistress and mother of some of his kids (but not Greg Juniors mother) because she spent years with the Scarpa's knowing full well what they were doing and she happily accepted it. But all she did was bitch and moan when her own son was murdered (despite the fact she knew her son had murdered people himself). Sorry Linda - but having your nearest and dearest get murdered is a hazard of them being a criminal!!!! The book also has a humour element at times - for instance, one of Greg Seniors associates once showed Greg a small pick that was ideal for smashing open pay phones. Greg aquired one of these for himself and despite the fact that he didnt need the money he used to bash open public phones to raid the coins inside - he was known to even drive miles out of his way to smash a phone because he got such a kick out of the fact he was robbing the phone company!!!!! Good book that I would recommend to others.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Lilo]
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10/19/10 05:38 PM
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What did you think about Scarpa's rather bohemian lifestyle? Yeah, he was a free-spirited psychopath .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: pizzaboy]
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10/20/10 04:32 AM
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What did you think about Scarpa's rather bohemian lifestyle? Yeah, he was a free-spirited psychopath . It was just REALLY weird to me. Generally speaking, you shouldn't look at a mob guy's wife or girlfriend. If you do there's gonna be trouble. In fact, you may find it prudent to not even look like you're THINKING about looking at a mob guy's wife/girlfriend. And here's Scarpa "Hey , you like Linda right? Think she's a hottie? Well make a move man. She likes you too. Knock yourself out..."
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turi Giuliano]
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10/27/10 04:17 PM
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Guys, can any of you tell me something about this book? http://www.amazon.com/Mafia-Made-Easy-Anatomy-Culture/dp/1602472548I'm mostly interested in the culture and mores of the Cosa Nostra and this book seems very interesting to me although it'll be really hard to find it in my country, so I just want to know if it's really worth the effort. Have any of you read it? Can you recommend it?
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