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Luca Brasi & The Don
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04/13/10 12:18 PM
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In the novel doesn't it state that Vito was uneasy around Luca Brasi, he made him nervous like he was handling dynamite or something to that effect?
I think that Luca was the only character that really made the Don nervous, and I could never understand why Vito's character reacted that way with him. You can see it in his face, as he replies to Tom "do we really have to see him"? What great acting right there too BTW!
But here are my questions- 1)Did he not trust Luca Brasi, did he think maybe at the wedding he was going to try and kill him?
2) Do you think Vito would ever whack Luca because of this nervousness/paranoia?
3) How many people in the family knew how to contact Luca? Sonny & Tom did but what about the capos? Did they know him that well too?
"Now, that plane goes to Miami." "That's right. That's where I want it met."
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Re: Luca Brasi & The Don
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In the novel doesn't it state that Vito was uneasy around Luca Brasi, he made him nervous like he was handling dynamite or something to that effect?
Yes. Vito's insight into Luca (as explained in the novel) is that Luca wants to die. I think Vito's ambivalence toward Luca contains some part of guilt about using him, and some part of fear over Luca's instability. Even while remaining completely loyal, Luca could cause a lot of trouble by accident. That said, I think we overstate Luca's weirdness on a everyday basis. He plays cards, he consorts with women, he goes with movies. He has cronies. He lives with family. I don't think he was completely isolated in the family. Finally, while I'm sure that Luca's loyalty was legendary even within Mafia society, I don't think it was such that everyone in all the families would know that he would never turn against the Don, so that everyone would know that his mission among the Tataglia was a ruse.
"All of these men were good listeners; patient men."
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Re: Luca Brasi & The Don
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1) I don't think the Don really trusted anyone completely outside of his sons. He didn't trust Sonny completely. "And Fredo? *shrug/sigh* " In this context I meant "trust" as in "I can trust this person not to put two in the back of my head"  ... though indeed Fredo almost let it happen via bumbling.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Luca Brasi & The Don
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I think that Vito, at the end of the day, really could only TRULY trust himself. He sure didn't trust Sonny and Tom's ideas about the drug business. And he knew that when they asked him, "So, what's your answer gonna be Pop?"
"Now, that plane goes to Miami." "That's right. That's where I want it met."
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Re: Luca Brasi & The Don
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Speaking of contacting Luca...
During the scene where Sonny, Tom, et al are trying to locate Luca, someone suggests he shacked up with the "broad" and they tell Michael to try him there. Michael just picks up the phhone and starts dialing. How does Michael know the "broad's" phone number? Actually, they make a point of saying that Luca would never stay at a broad's place. Michael is presumably calling Luca at home. Although it could be argued that it's unlikely that Michael would know that number, either. From J Goeff's transcript: TOM Has anyone been able to get in touch with Luca? CLEMENZA Eh, I've been trying all night. He might be shacked up. SONNY Hey, Mick, do me a favor -- TOM (background, to Clemenza) Luca never sleeps over with a broad -- he always goes home when he's through... SONNY (to Michael) -- try ringing him...
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