0 registered members (),
1,154
guests, and 35
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums21
Topics43,337
Posts1,086,010
Members10,381
|
Most Online1,245
|
|
|
Re: Pittsburgh Family Chart (1931-Present)
[Re: DiMaggio68]
#572359
04/20/10 07:18 AM
04/20/10 07:18 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,819 Australia
Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica
Mickey Meatballs
|
Mickey Meatballs
Underboss
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,819
Australia
|
Sweeeeeet. Cool articles. I think this may have been answered before but because im a lazy, lazy man...was Chucky Porter full blooded Italian or what? Was his fathers name really Porter or is it anglicised from Portello or something? Was'nt it half-Italian on his mothers side, but related to Genovese or something? I think... ack, i should prolly check. Anyway, there's a point i want to raise. So many of these half-assed sites, blogs & forum's list an intricate power structure & history that "identifies" all these names. Alot of it just seem's dubious for sure, but where are they getting it from? They cant really just be making it all up, can they? They have to have some base in fact? Dont they? Im sorry for sounding so naive, but i like to think that people aren't just taking the time to post their own elaborate fiction for the fun of it. eg; http://www.topix.com/forum/city/new-kensington-pa/TJ1S4AUB7A233RRGA like the 12th post or something, that dude T-Palozzolo. http://boards.ign.com/godfather/b8148/132711342/p21 And of course Wikipedia's entry on the Pittsburgh LCN Crime Family. Now John Bazzano Jr, a Genovese underboss very often listed as the current boss, he died in 2008. Even in '06 when the above was posted, it would seem he was for the most part infirmed & retired. Here's the obit.: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08211/900171-122.stm Another example, a quick search on Thomas "Sonny" Ciancutti, another name often listed as Boss, reveals his most recent arrests to have been in 2000 & 2002, http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=11...pg=2587,3727529 http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_20757.html http://www.americanmafia.com/mob_report/1-7-02_mob_report.html <--down a bit for Pittsburgh And Mauro Matone, the supposed Capo, i was able to google up an article about a drug arrest. From '93. Column on the left, second one down: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=11...pg=6817,3703508 Thats about it. And these guys are the supposed upper echalon of a "current" Pittsburgh LCN Family. Now, the NY Fmailies can hardly function properly without attracting attention & arrests. Are we to believe all these guys are under the radar, so to speak? Even guys like Big Head Maselli, Duffy Conley & Johnny Adams, the leftovers, it all seemed to get mopped up in those 2006 charges & investigations. Like Ivy's articles attest to. And this one: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/cityregion/s_453831.html Are all these sites really that out of date? Or is it a case of one bad source spreading virally, referenced by everyone too lazy to do a proper search. Hm. That sounds really hypocritical with the Chucky Porter thing, eh? And who the fuck is Jerry Chiappenelli? Is someone just playing a joke on some poor dude or what? the Wikipedia entries on 95% of American mobsters is such bullshit.
(cough.)
|
|
|
Re: Pittsburgh Family Chart (1931-Present)
[Re: calabresesoldier]
#572409
04/20/10 08:15 PM
04/20/10 08:15 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 8,534
IvyLeague
|

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 8,534
|
great articles, I didn't know Genovese was dead, and my dad is from there, we are related to Amato's by marriage there too, not sure which ones though. Any other facts on P-burg I would love and so would my dad, being second and third generation Italians. There is a big Italian population still left in Pittsburgh its hard to believe the mob is so crippled there, but it was always a small family. It comes down to general attrition, which effects the smaller families more quickly. Plus, New York put a freeze on the Pittsburgh family making new members.
Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
|
|
|
Re: Pittsburgh Family Chart (1931-Present)
[Re: IvyLeague]
#572412
04/20/10 08:19 PM
04/20/10 08:19 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296 Throggs Neck
pizzaboy
The Fuckin Doctor
|
The Fuckin Doctor

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
|
I say "general rule" because there will always be well connected guys who might get made even though they aren't 100%. Of course, it's more common if the father is a made guy himself. Greg DePalma's son, Craig, is fully Jewish on his mother's side, yet he was made back in the very early '90s (and at the young age of 25, to boot). Although, he hasn't had a very happy ending. He's been in a coma due to a botched suicide attempt in prison back in 2003. His father died in prison back in November, a virtual pariah due to the "Jack Falcone" fiasco.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
|
|
|
Re: Pittsburgh Family Chart (1931-Present)
[Re: calabresesoldier]
#572591
04/22/10 11:22 PM
04/22/10 11:22 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 8,534
IvyLeague
|

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 8,534
|
This is not a Pittsburgh question but wasn't Gus Alex a made guy with the outfit and he is not 100% No, he wasn't made. He couldn't be because he was Greek. But he was a high-ranking associate. And in the Outfit, especially in the old days, non-Italians could rise high up in the organization and had a lot of power. Jake Guzik, Murray Humphries, Gus Alex, etc. There has never been someone made in any family that didn't have at least some Italian blood.
Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
|
|
|
Re: Pittsburgh Family Chart (1931-Present)
[Re: maggiebnk]
#572606
04/23/10 11:19 AM
04/23/10 11:19 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296 Throggs Neck
pizzaboy
The Fuckin Doctor
|
The Fuckin Doctor

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
|
Does anyone know the current status of Chucky Porter? What would be his current status, if any, within the organization at this point? He has no status. He's a rat. And as it turned out, he was a rat for quite some time. Plus, the Pittsburgh family is pretty much done for.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
|
|
|
Re: Pittsburgh Family Chart (1931-Present)
[Re: IvyLeague]
#572653
04/24/10 08:38 AM
04/24/10 08:38 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,819 Australia
Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica
Mickey Meatballs
|
Mickey Meatballs
Underboss
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,819
Australia
|
Thomas "Sonny" Ciancutti (late 70's, maybe early 80's now.) Eugene Chiarelli (late 60's). Robert "Bobby I" Ianelli (late 70's, maybe early 80's now). Anthony Imburgia (not sure how old he is.) Mauro Matone (late 60's). And Nicholas DeLucia, though he may not be made.
Is that pretty much it? Are there any soldiers lingering under those names, or is that an actual list of "made" guys left & operating in Pittsburgh? Is there even a structure with that amount of guys? Id imagine rather then underbosses & consigliere & capo's, it'd be more like a Boss & and his guys. With so few members, you wouldn't think rank is so relevant; a button in a small family could have direct access, since there's literally a handful of guys comprising the family. The old "glorified crew" theory. Like Philly. Correct me if im wrong.
(cough.)
|
|
|
|