kobe = a rapist. it's plain and simple. his wife was planning on leaving him but he some how changed her mind. my bet would be on that 8 karat purple diamond ring he got her. 8 for his number and purple because it happened on the road. get it? -Pat

You are so ignorant to ignore what was put in Howie's article. I can't wait for him to come on and see your post. SHE IS MILKING HIM. Face it, you just consider him a rapist because you never liked the guy because of him acting like a thug with a goddamn tattoo and compeating against Shaq? Of course you wouldn't admit it, but you are as readable as a book that way, you use your impression on people rather then facts to judge.

um, i've never liked kobe. all i said was he recently got a tatoo because he's trying to be a thug and put a new image around the NBA. he's lost money, money, and soon he'll lose his wife. he's going to have an injury plagued season too. he's definetly out for tonight's home opener. why would Howard be mad? he puts the links here for feedback, that's what we're giving him. -Pat

Please direct me to where I said he would be mad.

I have nothing more to say to you. You heard what I said and that's it.

i have the same impression on him as people in Philadelphia do. people boo the hell out of him here when he comes to philly for games. he was born in LOWER MERION! -Pat

Which completely irrelevant to the subject. End of discussion. Dinner time!

which completely irrelevant.. that doesn't make sense. -Pat

YOUR WHOLE COMMENT. WE are not talking about his reputation in other places because of his career, and it doesn't matter where he was born, it doesn't have to mold what he does as a career.

it's going to mold his career. he cried in front of a sold out First Union Center on national tv! -Pat

What the fuck are you talking about? This is have anything to do with the rape charge?

ugh! haven't you read my posts?!

Yes, all vague and senseless.

we'll see what howard thinks.

I can already predict it.

That statement was completely irrelevant to the subject

the subject was changed. you think i care if he beats the hell out of my posts? he's already what i want to be, a writer. hopefully he'll give me some tips. -Pat

THE SUBJECT WAS CHANGED? NEVER. You don't just spawn a differ post in a debate and spin it around! The subject is the rape charge, not what some assholes think of him because of where he was born or what team he was on! GROW UP.

grow up? don't you follow basketball? how can you tell me to grow up when i'm talking about this year and last year's season? i love basketball and will follow it from now until june. -Pat

BUT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT?! NO! There is a thread for that, go post this shit THERE, not in a debate about the rape case.

you need to calm down. you get worked up over little things. here's my two cents which i said hours ago:
if kobe would've come clean right away and said, "yeh, i had sex with another woman."--we wouldn't be hear right now because he wouldn't of been convicted. what do you think the eagle county sheriff's office said when they found out he finally admitted to having sex afrer denying it? -Pat

If you realise he did not want his wife to find out, then it makes sense why he would have denied it first.

if he was such a good guy like everyone says he is, he would've told her right away. -Pat

The average man wouldn't want his wife to find out, I think that is one of the main things that happens in adultery. Common sense.

but a "good" man who is "sorry" for committing it would tell her. -Pat

Not always. Sometimes, "sorry" doesn't cut it for wives.

an 8 karat diamond ring did the job. -Pat

Patrick - I think we need to get something straight here: this is not about whether or not you like or dislike the Lakers...you can hate them all you want, but that has absolutely no point in this argument.
Secondly, you continuously say that him not admitting his adultery from the get-go somehow proves something, well, it does not. Because Kobe didn't admit that he banged this chick at the start of the whole ordeal is hardly damning...in fact, it doesn't prove anything whatsoever.
On another issue, how can you ignore all of the facts and evidence I spoke of? I think the facts speak for themselves - it is clear that Kobe did not rape this girl. Either way, however, that is up to the jury to decide (that is, if the case even goes that far, which I hope it will not).
And if you need advice on writing, just ask me, I'll be happy to help.

Don Vercetti - We agree on yet another issue! Wow! Thanks for the support, bud.

i think the next court hearing is on the 12th or 16th. correct me if i'm wrong. -Pat

Originally it was set for November 10th, but they delayed it three days to November 13th. That marks the beginning of the real trial, unless there is a plea bargain or something.

Well folks, my article on Ramadan was printed today, and I know it is strange to have me report on that, what with my history of Opinion page articles and all. Either way, I was sent into the lion's den and reported on it objectively, listened to what they had to say, and even learned a little bit more about Islam.
Read the article at the Daily 49er\'s website or at my website.

Oh, and one more thing: my A.S. Senate article for this week will be in Monday's paper, not tomorrow's. I actually didn't even have to report on it today because there wasn't enough space in the paper for tomorrow but I didn't get the message on time, so I'm going to write it for Monday.

Until next week!

ok, now kobe said 2 days before the 1st game of the season that his knee was feeling better and he was going to play opening night; however, kobe didn't play. he didn't even join his team until the 3rd quarter. do you think he's really hurt or is he nervous about the trial? -Pat