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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 10:33 AM
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I was hoping that this topic was brought up today. For 3 hours last night I sat on my couch (scratchin' my nuts) in total shock. There is something terribly wrong with that "man", wanting to share his bed with children, holding hands with a 13 year old. It would not surprise me at all if he started some kind of "Neverland" cult. Unlike Uz I will judge him, straight up how he acts, looks and presents himself to the world is plain weird. I guess that it would not be so weird if there was some "parental supervision".
Not in a million years would I ever let my princess go to his house, let alone sleep in his bed (unless he wanted a country ass whoopin).
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 10:46 AM
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What does it say aout OUR culture when we revere people like Michael Jackson, the Osbournes, Marilyn Manson, Dennis Rodman, or see those nutty women who go and marry crazy serial killers like the Night Stalker? We have some issues folks.
"Life is so beautiful."
"Even the King of Italy didn't dare to meddle with the relationship of a husband and wife."
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 10:59 AM
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Nothing about Michael Jackson bothers me. Sure, if I saw, on videotape, that he is rear-ending 10-year-old disadvantaged kids, I would like to see him shot. But I really believe he isn't having sexual encounters with these kids. He has simply lost his mind. And that's OK...it happens.
The plastic surgery? Doesn't bother me. Lying about it? Doesn't bother me. White skin? Doesn't bother me. Neverland? Doesn't bother me.
He is just a VERY interesting human being. And I like that. Britney Spears, Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks, Ben Affleck, Jennifer Lopez, the cast of "Friends," Christina Aguilera....oh, just fuck them. They're fucking boring.
FTW
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 11:03 AM
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You know what is going to be next don't you? He is going to accuse his detractors of being "racists".
"Life is so beautiful."
"Even the King of Italy didn't dare to meddle with the relationship of a husband and wife."
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 12:14 PM
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Walt Disney can't come back. He has done spun around in his grave so many times cause of what Eisner and the rest of them have done to his beloved Disney Co. that has has spun all the way to the other side of the Earth and is Probably floating out in space somewhere by now.
"Life is so beautiful."
"Even the King of Italy didn't dare to meddle with the relationship of a husband and wife."
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 12:49 PM
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I love the way he gives props to all cultures, first he was black, then white and now hes Asian. To me thats really something.
I am not that sort of person who trusts his friendship to those who do not value it- on those who think me of little account. Don Vito Corleone to Amerigo Bonasera.
SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 12:55 PM
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I remain suspicious that some of this is an act. As the report said, he wants to be the greatest show on earth. I just can't believe that HE actually believes it is OK to sleep with kids. Sure he must be surrounded by yes-men, and he didn't have a normal childhood/life, but he seems just too much of an alien. Also, it seems unbelievable that those are his own biological kids, as they seem too white and not mixed. But that is nothing in the grand scheme of michael the alien.
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 01:13 PM
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Just ask Gary Glitter, Rick James, PeeWee Herman, Gary Condit, R Kelly, George Michael, heck, let's go all the way back to the 1930's and 40's and ask Fatty Arbuckle and Errol Flynn, morals charges do not good publicity make. Pedophilia is just a little TOO MUCH for the American public to put up with.
"Life is so beautiful."
"Even the King of Italy didn't dare to meddle with the relationship of a husband and wife."
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Uztopoke: Nothing about Michael Jackson bothers me. Sure, if I saw, on videotape, that he is rear-ending 10-year-old disadvantaged kids, I would like to see him shot. But I really believe he isn't having sexual encounters with these kids. He has simply lost his mind. And that's OK...it happens.
The plastic surgery? Doesn't bother me. Lying about it? Doesn't bother me. White skin? Doesn't bother me. Neverland? Doesn't bother me.
He is just a VERY interesting human being. And I like that. Britney Spears, Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks, Ben Affleck, Jennifer Lopez, the cast of "Friends," Christina Aguilera....oh, just fuck them. They're fucking boring. I think his problem is simple. He is depressed because he is an adult, he just never really grew up. I don't think it is mental, i know a few people a lil older then me who act like children and perfer watching the stuff they did when they were kids. I think its one of those "When you are a kid, you wish to grow up, and when you do, you wish you were a kid again." things. I mean, he just doesnt want to let go of his childhood. And all of that bed stuff i believe isnt sexual, but what he is probably saying is not about sharing your bed, but about caring about other people. He said its what the world needs, which he means probably kindness and care. Ignorant people will jump right away to the conclusion that it was sexual, give me a break. I think he is just the most extreme pacifist alive.  And think about it. I dont think the veil thing is right for his kids, but i do think home-schooling them is good because they would most likely get kidnapped. Think about it, he is worth millions. Its a nappers dream to ransom Jacko for his kids. Think of the money involved. And about that hand thing, i think its one of those, enbrace the world bullshit.  And to round this up, I think his lack of growing up has to do with the beatings his father gave him when he messed up a dance step.
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 06:15 PM
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Well, I have to comment on this: I sat, eyes glued to the screen, for two hours last night and marveled in awe at the strange world of Michael Jackson. A few observations:
First off, what is up with those freaky ass mannequins he brings with him? Those things would scare the fucking hell out of me if I were left in a room alone with them! I'd have to keep checking them to make sure they weren't getting up and coming alive!
Secondly, let's talk about the face. He said he had one surgery to clear up a breathing problem...I guess you wouldn't have a breathing problem anymore if the surgeons completely removed your nose! Also, the guy looks like a clown. I mean, short of a fat red nose, he has the powder white skin, the comically raised cheekbones, the super-red lips...the guy should get a side job working for the Ringling Brothers!!!
Also, his fascination with children is just weird. Towards the end of the show, he said he wanted to adopt two children, a boy and a girl, from each country in the world...HAHA!!! That is so ridiculous it is hysterically funny! I don't know how in the world the interviewer held a straight face the whole time! I saw him almost lose it once, but then he caught himself...
Why are his children totally white? His newest kid, "Blanket", the one he made cry when he was feeding it and dangled over a balcony, was totally white, you could see it through the goddamn shawl the kid had on! Amazingly enough, Jackson says that he changed, which in his eyes apparantly means that his whole face morphed, his skin tone completely changed, and his voice got higher, not lower.
Michael Jackson also has a sort of god complex. I mean, he has a "magic tree" in his backyard, where he sits on it and writes songs and poems...the guy honestly believes he has the cure for cancer through love, as was demonstrated with that kid who seems to be so endeared to Jackson...he also said in a part that wasn't televised that his urine is actually liquid gold and that his bowel movements contain the sweetest strawberries ever grown!
I would have loved to hear Michael answer every single question anyone could ever think of, as you know each answer is going to be better than the last! He needs to have a fucking reality show, NOW!
"Opinions are like buttholes...everyone has one and they all stink." Howard Stern, circa 1986
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 06:42 PM
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I was enthralled by the Jackson interview. I had made my mind up by the end of it, he is no pedophile, just a guy with some big personality and emotional difficulties. This, makes it totally unsuitable for him to have kids staying over in his home.....what are the parents thinking of...fame? Money? I dont know!! Watching him with his own children was difficult. Seeing what the kids had to endure on a trip to Berlin zoo, which was mainly for Michaels pleasure was just too selfish. Then when he had 'Blanket' on his knee feeding him and he jiggled him so hard and fast I'd thought the kid would vomit on camera It seems as though he believes himself to be a 12 yr old kid in his head and the kids staying at his home are like kids on 'sleep-overs' so it's OK in his book. Fact is, this is a 44 year old man and he should have no desire to spend his time with little kids, he should be with men of his own age or better still women of his own age  It is admirable that he tries to 'help' sick kids etc etc I think HSIG got it right when he said he thinks he has a 'sort of God complex' I agree, he does think he has 'something' I'm sure!! Which, surely in itself is a form of mental illness!! He does look like a clown too, he looks so damned odd I couldn't take my freaking eyes off him. With all thats known about Michael Jackson, if he is investigated and found guilty of wrong doing I think the kids parents should be answerable too, for even letting them be there!!! Martin Bashir did such a wonderful job with the Princess Diana interview, when she was in much need of public sympathy and support I'm sure Jackson had this in mind when he 'allowed' Bashir to interview him over the 6 month. I wonder if Uri Geller is feeling guilty, he's the one that introduced the 2 to each other and 'got the ball rolling' FH
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by howardsternisgod: Well, I have to comment on this: I sat, eyes glued to the screen, for two hours last night and marveled in awe at the strange world of Michael Jackson. A few observations:
First off, what is up with those freaky ass mannequins he brings with him? Those things would scare the fucking hell out of me if I were left in a room alone with them! I'd have to keep checking them to make sure they weren't getting up and coming alive!
Secondly, let's talk about the face. He said he had one surgery to clear up a breathing problem...I guess you wouldn't have a breathing problem anymore if the surgeons completely removed your nose! Also, the guy looks like a clown. I mean, short of a fat red nose, he has the powder white skin, the comically raised cheekbones, the super-red lips...the guy should get a side job working for the Ringling Brothers!!!
Also, his fascination with children is just weird. Towards the end of the show, he said he wanted to adopt two children, a boy and a girl, from each country in the world...HAHA!!! That is so ridiculous it is hysterically funny! I don't know how in the world the interviewer held a straight face the whole time! I saw him almost lose it once, but then he caught himself...
Why are his children totally white? His newest kid, "Blanket", the one he made cry when he was feeding it and dangled over a balcony, was totally white, you could see it through the goddamn shawl the kid had on! Amazingly enough, Jackson says that he changed, which in his eyes apparantly means that his whole face morphed, his skin tone completely changed, and his voice got higher, not lower.
Michael Jackson also has a sort of god complex. I mean, he has a "magic tree" in his backyard, where he sits on it and writes songs and poems...the guy honestly believes he has the cure for cancer through love, as was demonstrated with that kid who seems to be so endeared to Jackson...he also said in a part that wasn't televised that his urine is actually liquid gold and that his bowel movements contain the sweetest strawberries ever grown!
I would have loved to hear Michael answer every single question anyone could ever think of, as you know each answer is going to be better than the last! He needs to have a fucking reality show, NOW! just to clear up 2 things. He said he had 2 nose jobs and it wasnt 2 kids from every country, but every continent. just a lil correction.
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/07/03 10:59 PM
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For everybody saying that they don't think Michael Jackson ever diddled any little kids, I present to you Exhibit A, the testimony from the 1...sexually abused him in September of 1993 . I think this will raise some doubt in some minds of the people who think Michael Jackson never molested any children. Family Honour - Why, exactly, was Michael Jackson in need of this publicity, as Princess Diana was? I see that you are from England, but let me tell you something: most Americans don't give a rat's ass about Michael Jackson anymore! The only countries that seem to care about him nowadays are those of Germany (as evident last night), Japan, and a select few more. The fact is that Jackson has an ego the size of Tommy Lee's cock! He is a legend in his own mind! Take, for example, Johnny Carson: after finishing his show, he said that he wasn't going to be in the public eye anymore and has kept a low-profile ever since, being seen occassionally at Wimbledon. Carson hasn't tried to reinvent himself or anything, but for some reason, Jackson thinks he is still the "King Of Pop". Michael Jackson, it's time to bow out...in other words, "It's over, Johnny". Don Vercetti - The corrections have been noted.
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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02/08/03 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by howardsternisgod: Family Honour - Why, exactly, was Michael Jackson in need of this publicity, as Princess Diana was? I see that you are from England, but let me tell you something: most Americans don't give a rat's ass about Michael Jackson anymore! Exactly this is why he needs the publicity. His career is on the skids, his reputaion is in tatters...he has much to gain by putting out a 'rose coloured' view of himself. Maybe attempt to win back the respect and admiration of his countrymen for a starter!! He is a big joke to some people here in England. IMO his only reason for allowing Bashir to do the interview was cos he thought he'd get the 'Diana' treatment and once again be back on top. It's a done deal that a 'scoop' like that would generate world wide interest and sell around the world, therefore reaching his intended audience all along. What a shame it's backfired, in more ways than one IMO in as much as it's shown me how fragile and teetering on the edge he really is. FH
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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My 2 cents:
Like many of us, Michael Jackson has 'issues'. The difference is that he has leveraged his issues as a marketing tool to extend his visibility. He has some very strange ways and questionable relationships with children, but make no mistake - he may be crazy but he is not stupid - he knows how to make a buck (side note: It was rather amusing to see he try to reclaim his blackness by attacking SONY when his album was not selling).
Those parents who leave their children in the care of an alleged pedophile are guilty of pimping. They are putting the children in harm's way to create an opportunity for a molestation charge.
The public is at fault for financially supporting and turning a blind eye from an unfit parent; if he were not a celebrity, the department of social services would have taken his children and would have had him committed to a ward. Please consider this profile:
******************* a 44 year old black man, twice divorced has a history of wearing make up, disguises and sequened (sp?) clothes with one glove and tape on his fingers has a history of sleeping with monkeys, dolls and small children has been know to sleep in hyperbolic chambers has had multiple plastic surgury operations was a victim of child abuse lives in seclusion with his children; the children have no contact with their biological mother(s) has been accused of pedophillia, denies it, but see nothing wrong in sharing a bedroom with children that are not his ******************
If you were a social worker and this came across your desk, you would have this man arrested and those children out of his house immediately.
If we really want to 'heal the world and make it a better place', then we need to pray for him and his children, but also ask the state of his residence to take immediate action to ensure the safety of his children. If he wants to be Peter Pan that is his business, but to endanger small children, to continue a cycle of psychological disturbance and to say publicly that it is OK is our business. If something happens to his children and other children and we knowingly look the other way - then their blood is on our hands.
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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Originally posted by Don Vercetti: I don't trust the opinion of a 13 year old. I heard on TV before the aligations that the parents disliked Jackson. Maybe the kid was bribed? Whats funny is how he told that bitch of a lawyer to "Go to Hell." Anyway, i don't believe the kid.If it were me, and I were 100% innocent, I would NOT pay 15 MILLION DOLLARS to settle out of court! Even though that much money just meant the equivalent of a dime to me!!! I would fight it all the way! After all, I am innocent, aren't I?
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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Originally posted by Don Vercetti: Well, go to jail, or pay a fee. I would rather pay. And that 13 year old is full of shit. His fuckin' father is living in a mansion because of the money he got from the case. Look here Einstein, why would Michael go to jail if he were INNOCENT? If he were INNOCENT, and the child had no case, he wouldn't go to jail! Period. Of course being that many sexual molestation cases are difficult and withstanding impossible to prove, many a corporate entity or otherwise have optioned merely to settle rather than face a courtroom of a group of uninformed uneducated jurors who may or may not base their decision on emotion and prejudice rather than facts.
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Re: Uzi's Ruminations 2/7 "Jackson"
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Originally posted by Don Vercetti: The kid would've won, if not sooner, or later. Jackson just wanted to stop it so he paid him off. So what you are saying is that our American system of Justice does not work? That any kid can make an allegation of sexual molestation to anyone and win? I don't think Michael is any less guilty for paying 15 Million dollars, so I guess paying didn't work!
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