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Re: The Made man ritual
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Joseph "Little Joe" DeFede (born 1934) was a New York City mobster and former acting boss of the Lucchese crime family who eventually turned informant.
While testifying against Gambino crime family boss Peter Gotti, DeFede exclaimed that all he made during his reign as acting boss was $1,014,000, or approximately $250,000 per year. DeFede also estimated that a low ranking family soldier would make on average $50,000 per year.
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: The Made man ritual
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Joseph "Little Joe" DeFede (born 1934) was a New York City mobster and former acting boss of the Lucchese crime family who eventually turned informant.
While testifying against Gambino crime family boss Peter Gotti, DeFede exclaimed that all he made during his reign as acting boss was $1,014,000, or approximately $250,000 per year. DeFede also estimated that a low ranking family soldier would make on average $50,000 per year. You do know why he flipped? This guy was full of it and that guy was an earner! He had real estate, beautiful cars, a nice house. Trust me, he made a lot more than he said he did. The feds suspected it and his own crime family most certainly did. When DeFede got indicted, Crea was put in his place and as soon as that happened, Amuso started getting real money again. This is how they all started to suspect him of ripping off the family and we all know what happened next. He flipped. He knew he was finished. This is the last guy I'd use to get information of this nature.
"What is given, can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies." - Casey Anthony, in a poem, July 7, 2008
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Re: The Made man ritual
[Re: VinnyGorgeous]
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Joseph "Little Joe" DeFede (born 1934) was a New York City mobster and former acting boss of the Lucchese crime family who eventually turned informant.
While testifying against Gambino crime family boss Peter Gotti, DeFede exclaimed that all he made during his reign as acting boss was $1,014,000, or approximately $250,000 per year. DeFede also estimated that a low ranking family soldier would make on average $50,000 per year. You do know why he flipped? This guy was full of it and that guy was an earner! He had real estate, beautiful cars, a nice house. Trust me, he made a lot more than he said he did. The feds suspected it and his own crime family most certainly did. When DeFede got indicted, Crea was put in his place and as soon as that happened, Amuso started getting real money again. This is how they all started to suspect him of ripping off the family and we all know what happened next. He flipped. He knew he was finished. This is the last guy I'd use to get information of this nature. In his early days, he operated a hot dog vendor truck in Coney Island, Brooklyn, running numbers on the side. A close friend and handball partner of Lucchese leader Vittorio "Vic" Amuso, DeFede was inducted into the family in 1986 after Amuso became boss. DeFede's rise and fall in the New York mob can all be attributed to Amuso. He drove a Cadillac and owned three horses that he kept in stables at the Aqueduct Racetrack. He was married twice, and is currently wed to his second wife Nancy who entered the Witness Protection Program with him. The two survive of off an annual income of $30,000 a year, a modest anuity from the U.S. Marshals and his wife Nancy's pension from working at a bank for over twenty years. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/02/nyregion/02mafia.html
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: The Made man ritual
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Joseph "Little Joe" DeFede (born 1934) was a New York City mobster and former acting boss of the Lucchese crime family who eventually turned informant.
While testifying against Gambino crime family boss Peter Gotti, DeFede exclaimed that all he made during his reign as acting boss was $1,014,000, or approximately $250,000 per year. DeFede also estimated that a low ranking family soldier would make on average $50,000 per year. You do know why he flipped? This guy was full of it and that guy was an earner! He had real estate, beautiful cars, a nice house. Trust me, he made a lot more than he said he did. The feds suspected it and his own crime family most certainly did. When DeFede got indicted, Crea was put in his place and as soon as that happened, Amuso started getting real money again. This is how they all started to suspect him of ripping off the family and we all know what happened next. He flipped. He knew he was finished. This is the last guy I'd use to get information of this nature. In his early days, he operated a hot dog vendor truck in Coney Island, Brooklyn, running numbers on the side. A close friend and handball partner of Lucchese leader Vittorio "Vic" Amuso, DeFede was inducted into the family in 1986 after Amuso became boss. DeFede's rise and fall in the New York mob can all be attributed to Amuso. He drove a Cadillac and owned three horses that he kept in stables at the Aqueduct Racetrack. He was married twice, and is currently wed to his second wife Nancy who entered the Witness Protection Program with him. The two survive of off an annual income of $30,000 a year, a modest anuity from the U.S. Marshals and his wife Nancy's pension from working at a bank for over twenty years. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/02/nyregion/02mafia.html What is your point? You do know why he flipped?
"What is given, can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies." - Casey Anthony, in a poem, July 7, 2008
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Re: The Made man ritual
[Re: VinnyGorgeous]
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Joseph "Little Joe" DeFede (born 1934) was a New York City mobster and former acting boss of the Lucchese crime family who eventually turned informant.
While testifying against Gambino crime family boss Peter Gotti, DeFede exclaimed that all he made during his reign as acting boss was $1,014,000, or approximately $250,000 per year. DeFede also estimated that a low ranking family soldier would make on average $50,000 per year. You do know why he flipped? This guy was full of it and that guy was an earner! He had real estate, beautiful cars, a nice house. Trust me, he made a lot more than he said he did. The feds suspected it and his own crime family most certainly did. When DeFede got indicted, Crea was put in his place and as soon as that happened, Amuso started getting real money again. This is how they all started to suspect him of ripping off the family and we all know what happened next. He flipped. He knew he was finished. This is the last guy I'd use to get information of this nature. In his early days, he operated a hot dog vendor truck in Coney Island, Brooklyn, running numbers on the side. A close friend and handball partner of Lucchese leader Vittorio "Vic" Amuso, DeFede was inducted into the family in 1986 after Amuso became boss. DeFede's rise and fall in the New York mob can all be attributed to Amuso. He drove a Cadillac and owned three horses that he kept in stables at the Aqueduct Racetrack. He was married twice, and is currently wed to his second wife Nancy who entered the Witness Protection Program with him. The two survive of off an annual income of $30,000 a year, a modest anuity from the U.S. Marshals and his wife Nancy's pension from working at a bank for over twenty years. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/02/nyregion/02mafia.html What is your point? You do know why he flipped? obcourse I know he heard/suspected he was going to get whacked out by the family for skimming
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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: The Made man ritual
[Re: IvyLeague]
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03/17/13 07:49 AM
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Some families don't use any "making" ritual. Fat Vinny Teresa, in his book, "My Life in the Mafia," said that in the Raymond Patriarca family, "they just called you to the Office and told you you was made." Not sure what to make of that. You'll recall that, in 1989, the FBI was successful in recording a making ceremony involving the Patriarca family. As far as I'm aware, only the Chicago Outfit supposedly didn't use a traditional initiation ceremony but even that was in the earlier years. Decades later, they were also said to be going through the same ceremony with the drawn blood, burning saint card, etc. Do you know where I can find this recording?
Makes you think. Makes you think about the people in your life. And when I think, I think of Neil. If he were here now what would he say? He would say "John what's it about? What's life about... if you dont go through it as a man's man?". He'd say "Suck it up, take the fall do the time. That made you what you are. That makes you what you are. How long have we been around this thing of ours? This Cosa Nostra? 120 years. What's it about? It's about the rules, perimeters. You take the beating for a friend, you don't run, you don't lay down, you don't betray who you are. What you are.
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Re: The Made man ritual
[Re: furio_from_naples]
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03/17/13 09:36 AM
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...the patron saint of the family...the crime family's patron saint...a holy card with the image of the Patriarca family saint...
What now, each OC family has their own saint? Get outta here... The cumpare is selected through an Italian finger-throwing game... ...Italian finger-throwing game?...which finger?
N..... or no, bastard had balls, shame to kill him... I got nuthin', I got nuthin...
Coming to bb is like going to the dollar store. You came for one thing, but once in now youse cant leave.
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