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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/17/03 06:52 PM
04/17/03 06:52 PM
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Don Vercetti
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No He isn't. Some people say God dpesn't exist because of violence. But thats the thing, God gives us free will and He wants us to follow Him, but when people use their free will for evil such as murder or whatever, then it is too bad. Like Friedrich Nietzsche, he said that "God was dead" because of the violence in the world.
EDIT: Anton, I did not say it was a mental disorder, I said nobody is born that way unless it is a result of a mental disorder. And homosexuals have not been around forever, God didn't make them, it is just a way some people love. Porn, God did not make it, why? Because these magazines did not exist, WE made them. Sure, they some from things God did make, but that doesn't mean a thing.
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/17/03 07:00 PM
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Anthony Lombardi
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Originally posted by Don Vercetti: ...or just have sex for pleasure or just to be "cool." So people who have sex for pleasure are doing it to be cool? What a crock of shit. Reply to my above post. Reply to more than one at a time.
the power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. george bernard shaw
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/17/03 07:02 PM
04/17/03 07:02 PM
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Don Vercetti
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I did, So people who have sex for pleasure are doign it to be cool? That's a sack of shit Tony, where have you EVER been? Its on the news all the time how teens especially are getting laid because they either do it for pleasure or they think that losing your virginity is some kind of accomplishment. And all these teen mothers who have ruined their life on it and in many cases murder their children or child! I am just discusted when I hear about this shit on the news, or even those crappy weekday talk shows. Many teens find it "cool" until they have one in the oven and they cannot support the baby and they either abort it or living off their parents wasting their money.
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/17/03 07:05 PM
04/17/03 07:05 PM
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Anton The Penguin
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Originally posted by Don Vercetti: Anton, how is it vital? It is not. It is just something people have done because they don't want to get married, or just have sex for pleasure or just to be "cool." Sure, if your married, it probably is not bad although I have been taught differ, but your married so I am going to say it is not bad. How is it vital? What the hell do you mean how is fornication vital? How else do we continue the human race??? Hate to be cheesey, but fornication is an act of love between two or more people. Some of it is used for other than love, and that's okay too, because for gods sake, it's their free will, there's nothing wrong with it! Love is a strong thing, and sex is usually used as an act of love. Do it to be cool? Nahh...as a virgin myself, I'm not so educated on the act itself, but I know for sure that there's nothing wrong with it. Seriously man... -Penguin
Only after the last tree has been cut down Only after the last river has been poisioned Only after the last fish has been caught
Then you will find that money cannot be eaten.
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/17/03 07:08 PM
04/17/03 07:08 PM
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Don Vercetti
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Sure, in many cases it is an act of love, but in most cases it is an act of vulgar love. Lust is not love, but just booty call. Sure, I really don't care if they are in love but you know, hormones are bastards. Pain? No, of course your going to enjoy it when you do it, what? Are there people who hate it?(well maybe) but IMHO, sex is for reproduction, taking pleasure while that is not bad imo, but just doing it for the pleasure and no care about reproduction, then its meaningless.
Tony, pleasure as lovg as it doesn't hurt anybody? Are you not the one who said that masturbation is for weak minded people? Well its the same thing, an act of pleasure. I will go no further because I do not know for sure if you did say that...
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/17/03 07:11 PM
04/17/03 07:11 PM
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Anthony Lombardi
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You've said on here you've fantasized about class mates or something. So you were "horny", and thinking about "vulgar acts of love" or "booty calls?!" That's insensate! You're being stupid, man, really.
There's nothing wrong with having sex for pleasure. Hell, when we used to talk on AIM, you used to talk about how hot women were all the time. You're telling me you'd never have sex with one for pleasure?! Please! I'm sure you've committed sins in your life, so stop contradicting yourself about not committing fornication or sex for pleasure because it's a sin.
Masterbation is a weaker form of sex. No, it isn't sex... But it's a very weak form of the same pleasure. Why do that when you can have sex with a female that you love for pleasure? Having sex with someone you don't love, I don't agree with, in MOST situations. Masterbation is for pleasure, strictly, and without a loved one, which I find stupid. To me. Not to others? Fine. I do find it dumb. Pleasure should come from someone you love, and not from your hand because your hormones are raging.
the power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. george bernard shaw
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/17/03 07:14 PM
04/17/03 07:14 PM
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Don Vercetti
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If i am going to have intercourse, its in marrige. BTW, I never said that, I said that kids in MY class were fantisizing about that. And sure, I do appreciate beauty, ex. celebrities and others. But don't image screwing them. Damn, now I think this thread will be locked, Ugh.  I am tired of this, if you guys have anything else, IM me at my Vercetti aim name, not Scarface. EDIT: SC2, pleave don't reply to me saying "You sound stupid!" etc. Talk to me on aim or PM if you have an discussion.
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/17/03 08:27 PM
04/17/03 08:27 PM
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Anton The Penguin
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Well, damn computer stuffed up, but that was interesting. ShortCake, I would absolutely LOVE to hear your views - after all, you are a homophobe. JoltinJoe, I firmly believe that what Vercetti is saying is ridiculous, but yes, he still believes firmly in it - even though it's wrong. -Penguin
Only after the last tree has been cut down Only after the last river has been poisioned Only after the last fish has been caught
Then you will find that money cannot be eaten.
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/17/03 09:24 PM
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Vercetti is right, he has this thing called..... religion. I believe in what vercetti is saying, im practicing the same thing myself. He has diffrent values and morals set for himself. he is what i would a ummmm... christian. He has been taught as it says in the Bible premaritial sex is wrong. good job vercetti.
" i have dreamed a dream, and now that dream has left me"
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/20/03 09:56 AM
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Wow, so many posts to reply to this morning before I go to a fucking FUNERAL. I guess we have found our bisexual...Anton. Am I right? You can't sit there and tell me that my opinions and views on different things are wrong. I think you are wrong. It says in the BIBLE that homosexuality is a sin. GOD did not create homosexuality. It is a sin. Why would GOD create a sin if he strictly forbids it?? The devil created it. God destroyed a whole city because of homosexuality that was being practiced. I understand you are an atheist, Anton, but I am not. I am a Christian and I believe in GOD. If GOD wanted gays and lesbians(there is no difference) then he would have created ADAM & STEVE instead of ADAM & EVE. Vercetti--I said I stayed with my boyfriend for 10 days and 1 of those days we had sex 14 times. Not every single day. I don't think that would have even been possible. I wouldn't have been able to walk. Lombardi-- I'm your 'friend and all' ?  You mean I WAS your friend, seeing as how every time I say something you badger me. I'm all up for being friends, but you hardly seem very friendly towards ol' Shortcake lately. Omnipotent--For some reason I am not going to even attempt a comment for you. Seems that I have a soft spot for you. Go figure?! 
"You got to lose to know... how to win."
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Re: Our Melting Pot
#58771
04/20/03 01:40 PM
04/20/03 01:40 PM
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Thin Clemenza
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I am a virgin..but I'm 13, so no suprise there. I have light hair and live in North America and I play an insturment.. yeah.
Hello Carlo. ~Clemenza Look how they massacred my boy! ~Vito Corleone I've frisked a thousand young punks ~Sgt. McKlusky
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/20/03 08:34 PM
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Don Vercetti
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SCake, the devil did not create homos. But, people are not born gay. The first humans on earth were straight, not gay. God doesn't create homosexuality, people who are did. It's OUR choice as free (for the most part) people. There is not a soul on earth born gay. Hell, I do not even think any are even born straight, or gay. And SCake, even so, 14 times in one fuckin day?  PUT HIS SNAKE BACK IN THE CAGE. thank you. 
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/20/03 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by ShortCake: Wow, so many posts to reply to this morning before I go to a fucking FUNERAL.
I guess we have found our bisexual...Anton. Am I right? You can't sit there and tell me that my opinions and views on different things are wrong. I think you are wrong. It says in the BIBLE that homosexuality is a sin. GOD did not create homosexuality. It is a sin. Why would GOD create a sin if he strictly forbids it?? The devil created it. God destroyed a whole city because of homosexuality that was being practiced. I understand you are an atheist, Anton, but I am not. I am a Christian and I believe in GOD. If GOD wanted gays and lesbians(there is no difference) then he would have created ADAM & STEVE instead of ADAM & EVE.
Vercetti--I said I stayed with my boyfriend for 10 days and 1 of those days we had sex 14 times. Not every single day. I don't think that would have even been possible. I wouldn't have been able to walk.
Lombardi-- I'm your 'friend and all' ? You mean I [b]WAS your friend, seeing as how every time I say something you badger me. I'm all up for being friends, but you hardly seem very friendly towards ol' Shortcake lately. Omnipotent--For some reason I am not going to even attempt a comment for you. Seems that I have a soft spot for you. Go figure?!  [/b] Dont talk about God saying Homosexuality being a sin and then talk sinning 14 times in one day! Because God also says premaritual sex is a sin. Whats your donomination?
" i have dreamed a dream, and now that dream has left me"
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/20/03 11:23 PM
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Anton The Penguin
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Originally posted by ShortCake: I guess we have found our bisexual...Anton. Am I right? What? Well, actually, I'm not bisexual - although there is nothing wrong with it. Where did you get this idea? Because I'm defending homosexuals? Yeah...you know what you people are called? Bigots. If I ever fucking hear someone say that homosexuals were created by Satan then what in the fucking hell do you expect? Scake, is it not true that the Bible gives us free will? If your "God" is decent at all then let people do what they fucking want as long as it isn't harming anybody? How are homosexuals harming you? Now there's a question; "because they stand for Satan", "because God hates them"? Sorry ShortCake, but that is a bigoted, disgusting, pathetic thing and you deserve everything you get. You ask nearly every fucking person on this BB if they think that homosexuality is a sin. OKAY EVERYBODY? HERE'S A POLL AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ANSWER IT: Is homosexuality an evil act created by Satan? Yes or No? Scake, this is the kind of thing that I hate the most from people. What you said and are saying is a sick and all-to-real portrayal of how much hate is in this world. You make me sick ShortCake. Vercetti and OS are right. Doesn't matter if you have sex 1 or 15 times a day, it's still a sin that you're commiting. And you're bashing homosexuals...for what? For living, for doing what is in their nature? For being who they are??? No, ShortCake, your argument has no valid point, I'm afraid. Ask anyone. Homosexuals cause far less problems than people like you. It's the truth. You are really pathetic ShortCake. I am not surprised to hear it from you. I thought you had some good in you, but you're just a bigot and it's people like you who cause the suffering of so many, no matter how small or big the suffering is. I'm sorry but I cannot tolerate bigotry. -Penguin 
Only after the last tree has been cut down Only after the last river has been poisioned Only after the last fish has been caught
Then you will find that money cannot be eaten.
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/20/03 11:33 PM
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yes. I dont think homosexuality in itself is a sin, just the act of it. that my not make a whole lot of since, but if homosexuality is in the genes than it cant be wrong for someone to be gay. I feel its like, this is a bad example but its late and all i can think of: You can be born a crazy murderer and thats not wrong but if act upon it and murder someone than yeah its wrong. God doesnt hate gays. I am not one to say gays are going to heaven or not i feel you can be gay and have a close relationship with God. Heck if some priests can go without a woman a gay can go w/o a man.
" i have dreamed a dream, and now that dream has left me"
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/21/03 01:03 AM
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This is quite a personal poll guys. Do not get upset if people voice their opinions and how they feel, telling them they are wrong. Polls like this are very problematic.
PS - Dont reply to this, just words of wisdom.
And you liar, teller of tall tales: you trample all the Lord's commandments underfoot, you murder, steal, commit adultery, and afterward break into tears, beat your breast, take down your guitar and turn sin into a song. Shrewd devil, you know very well that God pardons singers no matter what they do, because he can simply die for a song.
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/21/03 02:49 AM
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Anton The Penguin
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DonFerro, I understand completely where you're coming from. I will attempt to water down my post before Geoff gets to it.  I just believe that what Scake said was inexcusable. -Penguin
Only after the last tree has been cut down Only after the last river has been poisioned Only after the last fish has been caught
Then you will find that money cannot be eaten.
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Re: Our Melting Pot
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04/21/03 03:18 PM
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No, he didn't hit the nail on the head. It's still disrespectful and doesn't make sense.
If you're homosexual, the act IS BEING homosexual. That "murderer" example was inadequate. If you're a murderer, or "crazy killer", the act is KILLING people. That's a wrong doing, a sin. If you're homosexual... There's no act... The act, if any, IS BEING a homosexual. So, basically, you're just saying homosexuality is wrong in different words.
Plus, why would God see homosexuality as a sin? That's like saying if you have long hair, it's a sin; if you have short hair, you're a sin; if you're white, it's a sin; if you're black, it's a sin. God gave us the right to FREE WILL. So this whole arguement with it being a sin is a CONTRADICTION. You're just saying this 'cause you're not homosexual and it's something you're not. You just can't except something that you don't respect or agree with. There's a term for that: homophobic.
You just seem to be too ignorant, immature, and frightened to except something you're not and don't agree with.
And I'm not directing this towards you, OS, or you, DV. This is directed towards ANYONE who used this "sin" front as an excuse to shun homosexuality.
the power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. george bernard shaw
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