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Re: Roth & Friends
[Re: getthesenets]
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11/19/10 10:25 AM
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The Last Woltz
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Buschetta - Mike's bodyguard. thanks.....never understood why Neri didn't make the trip to Cuba...unless his absence was a ploy my Mike to throw people off about his true intentions. Because Michael does not know at that point whether Neri is the traitor. He brings in someone new because he couldn't trust his men in Nevada.
"A man in my position cannot afford to be made to look ridiculous!"
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Re: Roth & Friends
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11/19/10 06:21 PM
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Buschetta - Mike's bodyguard. thanks.....never understood why Neri didn't make the trip to Cuba...unless his absence was a ploy my Mike to throw people off about his true intentions. Because Michael does not know at that point whether Neri is the traitor. He brings in someone new because he couldn't trust his men in Nevada. Thanks....I've watched the film a few times and the way the footage goes from Mike's current life to Vito's youth has made it difficult for me to follow exactly what is going on and why. Having read the GF book and Neri's background and the way Mike brought him, it was inconceivable to me that Neri would in any way be behind the hit. But what you bring up would have been the "smart" thing to do...it shook up Mike and everything he believed in to have been shot at in his own compound in his bedroom with his family.
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Re: Roth & Friends
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11/23/10 01:49 AM
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Somebody tell me why Rocco didn't wear a vest on the Roth hit? That never made sense to me... Rocco probably thought his best chance for escape was to shoot, run like hell, and get lost in the crowd at the airport, so that the FBI guys wouldn't get a clean shot at him. A bulletproof vest of that pre-Kevlar era was very bulky and heavy, and would have slowed down Rocco's attempted escape. If that's the case though, why did Rocco turn back towards the police when they yelled at him, immediately before he got shot? He would have just kept running, right?
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Re: Roth & Friends
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12/08/10 01:31 PM
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After humiliating Tom and stating that "history teaches us that anyone can be killed," he immediately turns to Rocco--not Neri. Now Rocco was on the spot. He answered, "Difficult, not impossible." did history teach us that in the late 50's? I thought that was a lesson taught to us in 1963 with President Kennedy and Assassin Lee Harvey Oswald.
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Re: Roth & Friends
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12/08/10 07:36 PM
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After humiliating Tom and stating that "history teaches us that anyone can be killed," he immediately turns to Rocco--not Neri. Now Rocco was on the spot. He answered, "Difficult, not impossible." did history teach us that in the late 50's? I thought that was a lesson taught to us in 1963 with President Kennedy and Assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. Caesar - 44BC President Lincoln 1865 President Garfield - 1881 Archduke Ferdinand - 1914 Senator Huey long - 1935 Ghandi - 1948 ... need I go on?
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Re: Roth & Friends
[Re: olivant]
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12/09/10 01:29 PM
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After humiliating Tom and stating that "history teaches us that anyone can be killed," he immediately turns to Rocco--not Neri. Now Rocco was on the spot. He answered, "Difficult, not impossible." did history teach us that in the late 50's? I thought that was a lesson taught to us in 1963 with President Kennedy and Assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. Caesar - 44BC President Lincoln 1865 President Garfield - 1881 Archduke Ferdinand - 1914 Senator Huey long - 1935 Ghandi - 1948 ... need I go on? but that was then. By late 50's, early 60's, it was a lot more tough to do it and get away with it. and what about TODAY. Is it so easy to do "right now?"
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Re: Roth & Friends
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01/25/11 06:32 PM
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Jacksonville, IL
ADilla_Nevada
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Buschetta - Mike's bodyguard. thanks.....never understood why Neri didn't make the trip to Cuba...unless his absence was a ploy my Mike to throw people off about his true intentions. Because Michael does not know at that point whether Neri is the traitor. He brings in someone new because he couldn't trust his men in Nevada. Isn't Neri, Micheal's Luca Brasi..and if I remember right from The Sicilian....Vito use a dark secret to keep Luca in line for his loyalty....I'm sure Neri had a dark secret of some sort that Don Michael certainly exploited to keep Neri's loyalty. I think he left Neri to check on something and give the appearance of looking weak...so of the same Vito did by sending Luca to the diner to try to get into the Turk's circle..... just my 2 cents.
Questo Consigliere Deaf vi farà dormire con i pesci ...!
-- unknown Consigliere nicknamed called "Deafy"
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Re: Roth & Friends
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01/25/11 08:51 PM
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Jacksonville, IL
ADilla_Nevada
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The novel fully explains how Michael ended up with Neri. I read the novel, but I'll be honest, I forgot some of the novel (especially the Johnny Fontane / chick with doctor part in Vegas..that part drags on forever.....) so I'll have to re-read it again.
Questo Consigliere Deaf vi farà dormire con i pesci ...!
-- unknown Consigliere nicknamed called "Deafy"
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