To be fair, hasn't other politicians in recent years have used that terminology before? Not saying she was right to say it, just asking.

Of course I doubt she and her aides knew the term's context.

I am watching the President's speech and have to say it is one of the few times I am truly impressed. There is no denying he's a great orator, and tonight President Obama is honoring the victims and putting in their places all those who have incited political rhetoric since last Saturday afternoon.

Funny you should say that, because actually all those who evoke his name and attempt to demonize him, including various U.S. Congressmen and Senators, Arizona sherrifs, and even other talk show hosts and ...DO apparently take Rush Limbaugh and what he says, VERY seriously.

His speech managed to be simultaneously compassionate, moving and inspirational.

My heart breaks for the families. To lose a loved one is painful enough, but to do so in such a public and violent manner is just beyond comprehension.

Wonderful and moving speech. It was touching that he spoke individually about each one of the deceased, the wounded and heroes.

And yes SB my heart breaks for the family members as well. How can one not feel for them?


TIS

What DT is refering to is that so many in his audience do believe what he says. What varios "U.S. Congressmen and Senators, Arizona sherrifs, and even other talk show hosts" take seriously is his influence upon listeners regardless of the veracity of what he says.

TIS, have you seen the retired Colonel who tackled the gunman? He's an older gentleman, and he had been wounded that day. When he was interviewed on the news about what he had done, he turned around and showed the scar on the back of his head where the bullet had grazed him.

SB,

I did see that guy yesterday in an interview, but it must have been another interview because he didn't show his scar.

So many sad stories...the guy who killed shielding his wife was sad.


TIS

TIS, it was right along the back of his head and looked like a horrible burn.

My heart just breaks for all of the victims and the families. It is scary that these days when you walk out your front door to live out your life you just never know what might happen.

I know EXACTLY what DT was referring to.

However, in keeping with the tone that the President so valiantly attempted to quell tonight...it was the same reference that could be made of any listener of Rhandi Rhoades, Robert Kennedy Jr., Ed Schultz, Alan Colmes, or any other left wing host with a similar following (and far lower ratings, of course).

All DT was doing was voicing his political preferences (with which we are all familiar), and displaying the usual intolerance and disdain toward anyone who (proudly) disagrees with them.

Bravo, DT...well done!

But that's not the portion of his post that you quoted and to which I responded.

Bottom line is that ANYONE who politicizes a horrible tragedy like this or uses it as an attempt to advance their political agenda /career / party is an out and out disgrace of a human being in my eyes. As far as I am concerned only a selfish heartless bastard would even attempt to do such a thing!

You cannot compare the influence of RFK Jr., who is IMHO an empty suit, Alan Colmes, a weak kneed fall guy for Sean Hannity and a blow hard like Ed Schultz (For the life of me I don't know how he has a show) to Rushbo.

Amen to that DC. The blame on this tragedy does not belong to the right/left, Sarah Palin, talk radio. It belongs on the looney who pulled the trigger.

Tucson billboard.

Thi is too cute!

By Todd Wright updated 1/14/2011

A 4-year-old Florida boy called 911 to report that his dad was "being bad" and that he needed to get that urgent message to Santa. Now that might not seem like a proper use of 911 to you, but to a toddler, there is no bigger emergency than a parent who is being mean.

"Send a message to Santa that will say that dad is being bad. My dad's been very bad, he really did," the boy said confidently, according to a recording of the Jan. 2 emergency call.

The Niceville operator on the other end was clearly taken aback but played along with the child to make sure nothing was really wrong.

"Send the message all the way to Santa," the boy repeated.

"You want me to write a message to Santa?" the operator asked. "OK, what's your name? How old are you?" The child told her he had just turned 4 but didn't want the operator to get distracted from the mission.

The operator asked what the boy's dad did that was so bad that Santa had to be notified 11 months before the next Christmas arrived. She didn't get a straight answer, but the child was almost spot-on about what the proper punishment should be.

"When you're bad you get a big rock and you have to put it under your house," the kid explained. Usually Santa deals in lumps of coal, but maybe Dad really deserved a rock.

The operator dispatched a police officer to the house to make sure nothing criminal was going on and it turns out the little guy was just mad at his dad. No one was arrested, but no word on if Santa will be getting a letter in the mail.

Our news is reporting that they are "looking" into trying the Tucson shooter in CA to get a more fair jury pool I guess. Don't know if that will come to be or not.



TIS

This possible change of venue would seem to be in conflict with the following provision of the Constitution.

From the 6th Amendment: "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law ..."

I wonder why they would even think about it then??



TIS


Edit: MSNBC is reporting that the story (in the Washington Post...I think) saying that they wanted to move this trial to San Diego, CA was NOT true.
Maybe they read the constitution then?

TIS, compromises regarding the Constitution are as old as the Republic. Trying to follow it strictly is impossible if you want a dynamic Nation. No doubt the reasoning in this case is the "impartial jury" provision.

Yup. Remember that the OKC bomber was tried in Denver.
If it's a federal crime they could move it out of the state with no problem, no?
CNN LINK

they should move his trial to texas

During court recesses, we hang 'em here.

Crazy and evil is a very dangerous and disgusting combination. Talk about dancing on graves. But this is what free speech allows.
Ugly language used of course...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpkxoql4xz0

Lilo,

That is really disturbing isn't it? I can't believe they preach such crap at that church. Like you say, it's their right to say what they want, but sadly their are those who will blindly follow them. This guy is crazy!!! I hope this guy doesn't have a gun until he gets a mental exam.

TIS

The Tucson shooter could get a change of venue. Timothy McVeigh was tried in Denver, not Oklahoma City.

I don't think Croff said that the would be burgular was a threat to his life but even if that had been the case he likely still would have been convicted. You can not chase a criminal off your property and kill them. He went from right to wrong in the eyes of the law.


Croff Convicted

Tigh Croff, a Detroit homeowner who chased down and shot a would-be burglar 13 months ago, was convicted this afternoon of manslaughter and a firearm offense for the slaying of Herbert Silas.
A Wayne County Circuit Court jury took less than two hours to find Croff, 32, guilty. Judge Michael Hathaway set a sentencing for Feb. 18 and allowed Croff to remain free on bond.

Croff faces a mandatory two years for using a firearm in the commission of a felony and up to 15 years for the shooting.

How is that evidence of this guy having the support of the Democratic Party? Would it make it easier for upcoming elections if this guy was a Tea Party or outspoken member of the GOP? Of course it would, but that is not the case. To imply that the guy has the support of the Democrats, and the fact that there are people out there that defend this, just just shows how gullible people are in this country.