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Re: Which WiseGuy was the largest earner ? [Re: jvanley] #596247
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Originally Posted By: jvanley
Anyone know who was the largest earner in the Philly Mob? Im sure they had some good earners with AC being so close and all. Some others that were not mentioned:

Anthony "Nino" Gaggi (Big Pauls most trusted Capo)
Robert "DB" Dibernardo (construction tycoon)
Matthew Madonna (herion, gambling,construction and prostitution, also had a very large earning alliance with the Bloods street gang)
Matty "The Horse" Ianello (Vice Operations, Night Clubs and Restaurants)
Stevie "Wonder Boy" Crea: (Construction, said to have made the overall construction labor costs go up overall 5 percent in NY and had over 40 million a year in construction contracts)
Tino "T" or "the Greek" Fiumara: Controlled every major NJ racket in the 80's and 90's and was labeled a "powerhouse earner"


Of course Crea. Does anyone have any idea how much he's worth? That man is a wonder.


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i started this thread and im still wondering.. My fav mob? Who was philly's guy? Im looking for more recent guy in like the Merlino and Ligambi era..

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I have a better question. Which wiseguy was the absolute worst earner?


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Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous
I have a better question. Which wiseguy was the absolute worst earner?


Lefty Ruggiero?


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Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous
I have a better question. Which wiseguy was the absolute worst earner?


Lefty Ruggiero comes to mind....according to Pistone he was always broke and owed a fortune in gambling debts

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Lefty was reckless and careless with the way he spent his money but that doesnt mean he was a bad earner.

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Jerry Anguilo from boston was a huge earner. He was sending $50k a month to Patriarca Sr. from his gambling operations and that was during the 1950's. Thats prob equal to a half a millon in todays times

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Greg del palma in his later years was a bad earner

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Originally Posted By: tiger84
Greg del palma in his later years was a bad earner
i was thinkin this too as i scrolled down from the question of who was the worst earner i discovered that you beat me to mr de palma


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even though not a made man tommy desimmone was probablly a poor earner. always seemed to mess things up let his temper get in the way of everything you could set his blood thistiness to the sun coming up and paul vario even got rid of him at a time when paulie needed earners around......i'll bet paulie would have never got rid of him like that if tommy coulda thrown a huge envelope up

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Originally Posted By: phatmatress
even though not a made man tommy desimmone was probablly a poor earner. always seemed to mess things up let his temper get in the way of everything you could set his blood thistiness to the sun coming up and paul vario even got rid of him at a time when paulie needed earners around......i'll bet paulie would have never got rid of him like that if tommy coulda thrown a huge envelope up


You are correct. Paul Vario would have never given up Tommy if he was an earner. The Gambinos actually wanted Jimmy burke and Desimone but Vario wouldnt give up Burke because he earned so much so he gave the Gambinos Tommy for revenge on Billy Batts. In fact, it was said that Burke was the mastermind behind Billy Bats murder because he wanted to take over his loan shark book and even though he was the mastermind Vario wouldnt give him up because his earning capability.


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Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous
I have a better question. Which wiseguy was the absolute worst earner?


Believe it or not, John Gotti was a pretty piss poor earner while an associate and soldier.


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Originally Posted By: jvanley
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I have a better question. Which wiseguy was the absolute worst earner?


Believe it or not, John Gotti was a pretty piss poor earner while an associate and soldier.

very true also another degenrate gambler. rumors around the ravenite was that gotti couldn't win a bet if he was betting on the color of his underwear.


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i have also heard that bats had a garmet factory that made fat women's moo moo's that burke wanted to take over. burke was a true psycho


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How about the made guy, there was an article about him back in early 2000s. He didnt even have money to buy a shoe. Was it a lie? cant remember his name.


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How about the made guy, there was an article about him back in early 2000s. He didnt even have money to buy a shoe. Was it a lie? cant remember his name.


Shoeless Joe Jacksonetti.


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Originally Posted By: phatmatress
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I have a better question. Which wiseguy was the absolute worst earner?


Believe it or not, John Gotti was a pretty piss poor earner while an associate and soldier.

very true also another degenrate gambler. rumors around the ravenite was that gotti couldn't win a bet if he was betting on the color of his underwear.


I'm no fan of John Gotti, but he did utter one of the greatest lines in history. It occurred when JG was alone in his club and got the results of his baseball games. He lost every one of 'em..and then he goes "GOD IS A MOTHERFUCKING FAG". Fuck Shakespeare.


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Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous
Originally Posted By: phatmatress
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I have a better question. Which wiseguy was the absolute worst earner?


Believe it or not, John Gotti was a pretty piss poor earner while an associate and soldier.

very true also another degenrate gambler. rumors around the ravenite was that gotti couldn't win a bet if he was betting on the color of his underwear.


I'm no fan of John Gotti, but he did utter one of the greatest lines in history. It occurred when JG was alone in his club and got the results of his baseball games. He lost every one of 'em..and then he goes "GOD IS A MOTHERFUCKING FAG". Fuck Shakespeare.


I guess we all have our own opinions, but that right there is wrong, you can try to spin it anyway you want and its still wrong. "Fuck Shakespeare" Funny-I wont even repeat the other one though.


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1. Michael Franzese - Anywhere from 200-900 Million in Gas Tax money stolen. Where the money went after that. Who knows. His former partner in Witness Protection claims to "only" have given Franzese 50 Million.

2. Peraino Family - Muscled out their third partner in producing Deep Throat. The movie has grossed over 600 Million.

3. Sam Giancana - In 1950s money, he made 150 Million.

4. Pizza Connection - 1 Billion. Divided up between Bonnanos, Italy and Canadien/French organized crime groups.


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google states that behind pablo esobar and carlos ledher (aka diego delgado from the movie blow) that fat tony salerno and meyer lanksy were the richest gangsters. any thoughts


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Originally Posted By: jvanley
Anyone know who was the largest earner in the Philly Mob? Im sure they had some good earners with AC being so close and all. Some others that were not mentioned:

Anthony "Nino" Gaggi (Big Pauls most trusted Capo)
Robert "DB" Dibernardo (construction tycoon)
Matthew Madonna (herion, gambling,construction and prostitution, also had a very large earning alliance with the Bloods street gang)
Matty "The Horse" Ianello (Vice Operations, Night Clubs and Restaurants)
Stevie "Wonder Boy" Crea: (Construction, said to have made the overall construction labor costs go up overall 5 percent in NY and had over 40 million a year in construction contracts)
Tino "T" or "the Greek" Fiumara: Controlled every major NJ racket in the 80's and 90's and was labeled a "powerhouse earner"


Jvaley,

You have to go back to the 1970s with the Philly Mob for guys who made alot of money.

Bruno was the boss for 20 years. The scarfo mob made very little money. In fact when Leonetti went away, he had to go into Scarfo house and take 800k into hiding.
Merlino was the street boss and before he went away was trying to find hot rolexs to sell according to Ron Previte. And sold membership into the philly mob for 50k.


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Originally Posted By: phatmatress
google states that behind pablo esobar and carlos ledher (aka diego delgado from the movie blow) that fat tony salerno and meyer lanksy were the richest gangsters. any thoughts


According to Lanskys grandson, when he died he had very few assets. He lost millions when Casto took over cuba.

Outside of Capone, Franzese and Luciano, the columbians in Medellin in the 1980s, made more money then any of the italian mafia members ever made.

Check out the documentary Cocaine Cowboys on Netflix online. Ledhar would have been a capo in the Cartel. The Ochouas (spelling?) made a billion dollars.


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Originally Posted By: Italian4Life
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google states that behind pablo esobar and carlos ledher (aka diego delgado from the movie blow) that fat tony salerno and meyer lanksy were the richest gangsters. any thoughts


According to Lanskys grandson, when he died he had very few assets. He lost millions when Casto took over cuba.

Outside of Capone, Franzese and Luciano, the columbians in Medellin in the 1980s, made more money then any of the italian mafia members ever made.

Check out the documentary Cocaine Cowboys on Netflix online. Ledhar would have been a capo in the Cartel. The Ochouas (spelling?) made a billion dollars.


I recently caught parts of Cocaine Cowboys, one of the big drug smugglers interviewed said the Ochoa brothers were the real power behind the Medellin Cartel, and not Pablo Escobar. I think some of the Ochoa brothers are alive and well, after only doing a few years in Colombian prisons. The money some of the smugglers were making was beyond belief. The movie "Blow" starring Johnny Depp is about George Jung, he was a major smuggler for the Medillin during the 70's.

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Originally Posted By: tiger84
Greg del palma in his later years was a bad earner


Indeed, Depalma was so hard up for cash he allowed himself to be duped by that fat slob of an FBI agent Jack Garcia. I don't know how Garcia was able to pass himself off as a guy of Italian ancestry originally from Cuba. His infiltration of Depalma read like a low budget C grade mafia movie. Greg Depalma's stupidity did some serious damage to the Gambino's, Garcia's work took down many of their top guys including acting boss at the time Arnold Squitieri.

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I'm no fan of John Gotti, but he did utter one of the greatest lines in history. It occurred when JG was alone in his club and got the results of his baseball games. He lost every one of 'em..and then he goes "GOD IS A MOTHERFUCKING FAG". Fuck Shakespeare.


I guess we all have our own opinions, but that right there is wrong, you can try to spin it anyway you want and its still wrong. "Fuck Shakespeare" Funny-I wont even repeat the other one though.


Spin it any way I want? I can only spin it one way. That's what's beautiful about this statement. It's clear, it's to the point and it's passionate! Sort of like "To be or not to be...". Only that one lacked fire and class.


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Gotti was a piss poor earner, I believe his wife was always getting on him about being broke when he was a soldier and capo. His brother Gene seemed to be the only real earner in the family.

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Gotti was a piss poor earner, I believe his wife was always getting on him about being broke when he was a soldier and capo. His brother Gene seemed to be the only real earner in the family.

Gotti gambled all his crews earnings away. Angelo and Gene always complained about it. If it wasn't for Dellacroce Gotti would have never gotten his button.

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Gotti gambled all his crews earnings away. Angelo and Gene always complained about it. If it wasn't for Dellacroce Gotti would have never gotten his button.


Gott's gambling led to a hilarious phone call between Angelo and Gene that was intercepted....



Angelo: You gotta do yourself a favor and everybody else a favor too. We gotta see how we're gonna close this fucking joint in New York.

Gene: Yeah, what happened now?

Angelo: That fucking hard-on, you know that hard-on, the guy your mother shit out.

Gene: Go ahead.

Angelo: He lost thirty dollars last night. We were on top sixty balloons! I left there one-thirty and we're on top sixty balloons! We didn't need him in the fucking game!

Gene: I'm by the club now.

Angelo: We were on top sixty balloons - what, is he kidding somebody or what, this guy? Who the fuck needed him there? So what is he looking to do now? Just take advantage of people or what? Let's see how we gotta do it, Genie.

Gene: Oh fuck him. I don't give a fuck. What is he looking to do, this guy? Is he abusing his position or what?


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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
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Gotti gambled all his crews earnings away. Angelo and Gene always complained about it. If it wasn't for Dellacroce Gotti would have never gotten his button.


Gott's gambling led to a hilarious phone call between Angelo and Gene that was intercepted....



Angelo: You gotta do yourself a favor and everybody else a favor too. We gotta see how we're gonna close this fucking joint in New York.

Gene: Yeah, what happened now?

Angelo: That fucking hard-on, you know that hard-on, the guy your mother shit out.

Gene: Go ahead.

Angelo: He lost thirty dollars last night. We were on top sixty balloons! I left there one-thirty and we're on top sixty balloons! We didn't need him in the fucking game!

Gene: I'm by the club now.

Angelo: We were on top sixty balloons - what, is he kidding somebody or what, this guy? Who the fuck needed him there? So what is he looking to do now? Just take advantage of people or what? Let's see how we gotta do it, Genie.

Gene: Oh fuck him. I don't give a fuck. What is he looking to do, this guy? Is he abusing his position or what?




LOL ya I read that somewhere thats hilarious(your mother shit out)

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Gotti gambled all his crews earnings away. Angelo and Gene always complained about it. If it wasn't for Dellacroce Gotti would have never gotten his button.


Gott's gambling led to a hilarious phone call between Angelo and Gene that was intercepted....



Angelo: You gotta do yourself a favor and everybody else a favor too. We gotta see how we're gonna close this fucking joint in New York.

Gene: Yeah, what happened now?

Angelo: That fucking hard-on, you know that hard-on, the guy your mother shit out.

Gene: Go ahead.

Angelo: He lost thirty dollars last night. We were on top sixty balloons! I left there one-thirty and we're on top sixty balloons! We didn't need him in the fucking game!

Gene: I'm by the club now.

Angelo: We were on top sixty balloons - what, is he kidding somebody or what, this guy? Who the fuck needed him there? So what is he looking to do now? Just take advantage of people or what? Let's see how we gotta do it, Genie.

Gene: Oh fuck him. I don't give a fuck. What is he looking to do, this guy? Is he abusing his position or what?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA "THE GUY YOUR MOTHER SHAT OUT"...ANGELO RUGGIERO = SHAKESPEARE


"What is given, can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies." - Casey Anthony, in a poem, July 7, 2008
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