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2011 Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball

League ID#: 143312
Password: Corleone

Draft Time: Sun Mar 20 9:00pm Eastern

Scoring change from last year:
Wins: 3 points
Losses: 0 points

Any other suggestions?

Weird... In any case, the max teams have been set to 12.

A'ight, I'm in now...

I'll join if/when I'm sure I can make the draft.

There's still time to work on another draft day/time... what's good for you?

That depends which week the draft is. You know how crazy my schedule gets.

genious!

now, just to make sure I express my opinion, isn't there a better time to do the draft than sunday night? and I still got that message JG talked about.

I'm trying to find ways that will work for everyone. Other than not liking Sunday night, I haven't heard anybody say that they'll miss the Sunday night draft. And if you think you will, it would be great if somebody can offer an alternative that will work for them and for the people that will miss a weekday draft.

The draft has always been earlier and on a weekday. So far the only complaints I see on here are for the change to Sunday night.

okay now I've joined it

I'll probably attend the draft on sunday night anyway but I do believe it's the worst posible time to do it

if there are people who can only attend it on a weekend, then be it; I like a tuesday night better or even a saturday afternoon.

Sunday night works perfect for me. A weekday draft with my current schedule and I'll have to auto draft. I prefer something on either a saturday or sunday. I hope we can have the draft on one of those two days since this is the league I really want to be there for the draft!

Weekdays are no good for me, especially being on Pacific time and still working while you guys are off in the evening.

Strange, I'm getting this same message.

check your email for messages from our comissioner

Thanks, you forced me to check my email. That puts me at twice this year, way too many times

I mentioned saturdays were good for me, but I'll be out of town the day before the draft, so this is basically the only good day for me. If the rest of you can't be there and there is a better date I'll just have to auto draft and work hard during the season.

I've found a work-around so that anybody who wants to join can join, with or without the invite. Yahoo is doing something strange with old players/new players - not a change for the better. In any case, if any of you know of dedicated players, feel free to invite them.

Any other thoughts on scoring changes, TM? You had good ideas last year.

not that I recall, DB. other than this one there is nothing that strikes me or that I remember bringing up in the past.

FYI - I'm going to close up registration by Friday morning so sometime on Friday, I can set the draft order.

Can we discuss this?? Wins are worth less, and, losses mean nothing? And no one sees a reason for discussion???!

I have an idea. <sarcastic mode on> Instead of making dominant SP worthless, why don't we just remove pitching stats altogether, and really dumb down the game? Plus, the draft will be over quicker, and those of us on the east coast won't have to stay up until midnight on a Sunday Night. <sarcastic mode off>

Losing the sarcasm, you didn't say anything! lol

It was either sarcasm or something not so pleasant. You knew how I really felt about the whole dynamics of SP being changed without consent of the league. I didn't say anything until you opened it up for discussion.

It can still be discussed

Maybe JG knew how you felt, but I obviously didn't. Instead of throwing out sarcastic and unhelpful remarks, how about trying to have a reasonable discussion about this?!

I'm not married to the idea of the change - I just thought it was a good change based on the back-and-forth towards the end of last year in last year's league (where I don't remember any objections). TM was the big proponent of the change and the theory is that in many cases, losses are due to a lack of offensive support for a pitcher and if the loss is the pitcher's fault, he's penalized in the earned run stat. The change in the Loss stat adjusts for the double penalty.

You guys are great and I love how you're passionate about the league, but sometimes...

I have a long-term memory. There was a discussion about this last year.

yeah me neither. if no one said anything I would have thought it was an unanimous decision.



that's exactly how I feel. someday in the future I believe all leagues will be set up somewhat like this. "Wins" really are meaningless.



and let's remember: if "batter strikeouts" was a stat worth 10 pts wouldn't you draft Mark Reynolds with your 1st pick? once the season begins there's no crying in baseball

"Unanimous decision"? Where was the vote for moving the draft to late Sunday Night? Who were the people that suggested moving it? I still haven't seen anyone suggest it, except maybe for BL who was happy about it after it was done.

I was discussing a completely other topic with JG last night, when somehow the subject of this league came up. The more I thought and talked about it, the angrier I got about things in this league (and the football league) just get arbitrarily changed. I told him I was keeping quiet because I felt nothing I ever say or suggest ever matters, but he encouraged me to "speak my mind". So, that's it. I spoke my mind. If you guys wants to dumb down the pitching to the point that loses have no consequences, and the gap between the elite pitchers and the average/good pitchers is now very narrow, then fine.

I don't like the sunday night draft either and spoke my mind when I found out about it. if I hadn't said anything no one would ever know how I felt about it. until you said you didn't like the scoring change, I had no idea how you felt about it too and since it's such a substancial change I'd assume whoever kept shut was ok with it.

at a first thought, I would guess that "Wins" and "Losses" only narrow down the gap between different skilled pitchers, in the event of a less deserving pitcher piling up Wins because his offense scores a lot of runs, or a pitcher who's performing great but struggles to keep a winning record, both trends that do happen season after season.

If you want calm, rational, suggestions, how about this:

If you want the draft on Sunday, why does it have to be so late?
Even an hour earlier would be better.

If you want to change the pitching stats, why the DRASTIC change from 7/-5 (or whatever it was), to 3/0? Why not something a little more subtle like 5/-2