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Re: Hyman Roth's house in Miami
[Re: dontomasso]
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03/17/11 04:24 PM
03/17/11 04:24 PM
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Looks like N. Miami Beach. Yeah, single level, no basement. Typical of the area in the '50s and '60s. FFC also probably would have known that Meyer Lansky lived in the area (in Hallandale). That's where my money is. Either the southernmost tip of Broward County, or the northernmost tip of Dade County.
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Re: Hyman Roth's house in Miami
[Re: AB123]
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09/11/17 11:19 PM
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What's the point ? A life of crime, the threat of arrest or assassination and you live in a house no better than my mailman's. Roth, like some other smart gangsters, lived modestly so he wouldn't call attention to himself--more likely he had a "legitimate" income source that he declared on his income tax return, and lived within it. But, as you say, what's the point, after taking all those risks? Consider Vincent (the Chin) Gigante avoided prosecution for decades by pretending to be non compos mentis--walking around NYC in pajamas and robe, talking to trees, pissing in the street. What a life! 
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Hyman Roth's house in Miami
[Re: Turnbull]
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09/12/17 07:26 AM
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What's the point ? A life of crime, the threat of arrest or assassination and you live in a house no better than my mailman's. Roth, like some other smart gangsters, lived modestly so he wouldn't call attention to himself--more likely he had a "legitimate" income source that he declared on his income tax return, and lived within it. But, as you say, what's the point, after taking all those risks? Consider Vincent (the Chin) Gigante avoided prosecution for decades by pretending to be non compos mentis--walking around NYC in pajamas and robe, talking to trees, pissing in the street. What a life! Excellent points! Off the top of my head there is only one person that I can think of right now who was successful in putting on the facade of living a simple and modest life in an average home....Don Carlo Gambino.
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Hyman Roth's house in Miami
[Re: Otis_Day]
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09/12/17 12:07 PM
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Despite their rapacious appetites for ill-gotten gains as well as for destruction, every Mafiosi (or their associates) have, to some degree, unique personalities. Paul Castellano's personality required that he live in a mansion on Staten Island. He probably did so in order to serve his need to represent himself as above it all. He knew that such a lavish abode would attract the attention of the Feds. However, as head of the Gambino family, he probably figured that he was (and he was) already very much in the Feds crosshairs. As some Board members have posted, Michael may have lived lavishly in Nevada and New York for the same reason.
Roth's personality trait didn't require any separation from the street people. He felt secure with who and what he was. If he was going to unseat Michael in the underworld hierarchy, then he would do it with guile. Maybe he too did not want to attract the attention of the Feds, but he certainly realized that he was on the Feds radar anyway, but lavish living didn't appeal to him.
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Re: Hyman Roth's house in Miami
[Re: Beanshooter]
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09/18/17 09:55 PM
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The interview with Lansky on Israeli TV was very interesting. Hank Messick, a tabloid journalist, published a book on Lansky that claimed he "ran" organized crime in the US and was "worth $300 million." Both were wild exaggerations but the image stuck on him. Nixon's Justice Dept. declared a "17-city Organized Crime Task Force." Sixteen of the 17 cities were cities; the 17th "city" was Lansky himself. They influenced the Israeli Government to deny Lansky's citizenship application and filed many charges against him. He beat all their raps, but died nearly broke. BTW: The interviewer, Uri Dan, wrote an "authorized" bio of Lansky. He knew squat about US organized crime. Lansky BS'd him up, down and sideways.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Hyman Roth's house in Miami
[Re: Don Cardi]
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09/19/17 07:43 PM
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His house in Masapequa wasn't so modest. Gotti's house always struck me as a modest one. His house in Brooklyn was very modest. But..that house is very large lengthwise,it goes a ways back, a huge basement probably,& I think I read somewhere that it is actually 2 apts.,1 up & 1 down,,kinda like Angelo Brunos house,only Bruno's house always looked shabby on the outside.
I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
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