Poll Bounce from Skull Pounce.

Washington Post-Pew Poll: Obama at 56%

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_05022011.html

Is the American public fickle or what?

Imagine the debate next year when the GOP candidate (Romney?) will push on how Obama was this, that making American national security weaker blah blah...and Obama could just bring out Osama's skull.

End of argument.

They're already talking about how Obama's comments about killing bin-Laden during the 2008 debates, will probably be one of Obama's first reelection ads.

This is a big plus for Obama, but much will depend on the economy and its state by election time. Obama has a full plate that's for sure. Then again, with the current Republican list of possibles, he may just have it nailed.

Btw, I heard earlier that Romney was NOT going to attend the first Republican debate (in June I think). Although I am not a fan he's the only one of the group that I take as a serious contender.


Speaking of polls, I don't have it at my fingertips but I heard earlier today that since OBL's capture/death, support for the Afghan war has gone up.

TIS

I wonder when (OK if) people start demanding seriously that we get out?

Quote:
"In the Post-Pew poll, 69 percent of respondents said that they approve of Obama’s handling of the threat of terrorism, the highest rating since he became president in 2009. And more than three-quarters of Americans believe that Obama deserves credit for bin Laden’s death, with 35 percent saying he should get “a great deal” of credit for the terrorist leader’s killing.

(That number falls substantially among GOP respondents. While about six-in-ten self-identified Republicans say the president deserves “some” recognition for the successful operation in Abbottabad, just 17 percent say he is worthy of “a great deal” of credit. Over 80 percent of Republicans say that laurel should go to former President George W. Bush.)"

Republicans who say that are akin to Democrats who refused to give Reagan credit for ending the Cold War.

I mean seriously. Even Dick Cheney gave Obama some credit.

My neighbor was an Italian who spoke broken English. He would have referred to this negativity as a "cracker of shit". Rightly so, I might add.

Madonne! The election is 18 months away. Any number of variables can intervene to skew the election one way or the other. There are lessons regarding such. President Bush had a 90s+ rating after Gulf I which pretty quickly dissipated.

I agree. Anything can happen. I still think that some "mystery" person will show up as a candidate for the GOP. I mean, this can't be it.

Seriously, nobody on either side should get overly confident this early in the game......although no law against keeping hopeful.


TIS

I'm fairly sure that one thing and one thing only will impact the outcome of the election - the economy. It's what undid Bush I, and it could potentially undo this President as well. Keeping a roof over your head, making sure you have enough food for your family, and feeling secure in your job. Add a few little luxuries like buying a new car or taking a nice vacation, if people can have and/or feel those things, partisan politics, shmartisan politics. Whoever will make them feel secure (and not necessarily in a Homeland Security kind of way) will get the votes.

Bush Sr.'s fatal flaw asides from the economy was that the worst thing that happened to him was also the best thing for the world: End of the Cold War.

The fall of the Soviet Union made 1992 the first Presidential election since 1936 when foreign affairs wasn't a critical issue between the candidates and for the voters.

Nor wouldn't be again until 2004.

As SB stated, it will come down to the state of the economy (as it usually does).

Trump's 2012 campaign poster:

Ha ha ha ha! That's great. Notice The Donald has been quiet for what 2 days now????? Maybe he's getting his hair done.



TIS

Would any of you consider voting for Palin? Don't forget, she knows her stuff.

If by "her stuff" you mean any of the following: wearing a tiara in a beauty pageant, whoring herself and her children to make a buck, resigning from a job before achieving any goals, unable to name a newspaper she's ever read, and spreading rumor, innuendo and rhetoric, and pandering to the lowest denominator, then YES, she knows her stuff.

That's precisely what I meant. To put it more delicately: She knows her bullshit.

Too bad Sarah aint running. She would've been a total hoot.

And I mean total hoot as in being possibly the biggest polluter of bullshit and supplier of the most impulsive NeoCon/Evangelical redmeat in possibly the worst shittiest GOP presidential field in the Primary era of American politics.

~Her biggest contribution woulda been to tarnish Romney. Bachmann can fill that role.

Jesus Vinny.

~I'm suddenly reminded of that "parody" porno that Hustler made back in the day. Why is that?

Palin thanked everyone involved with bin Ladens's death EXCEPT President Obama. That's a move that has even the Righties shaking their heads. It will cost her plenty of votes should she decide to ever enter the political arena again. You can now add classless to go along with crazy and stupid when describing her.

The real cure for having to put up with Palin and Trump would be for the media and all of us to ignore them. They are attention seeking psychotics who have absolutely nothing to add to serious discourse.
As a democrat, and someone who lans to vote for Obama in 2012, however, I hope this GOP clown show continues.

As pizzaboy said, that GOP field is garbage. The only "legit" candidate is Romney, and his campaign is a house of cards.

Hell I'll laugh my ass off next year if he gets the nomination and the local GOPers will all stump rhetorically for Mitt. and RomneyCare. Awesome.

I agree that so far Mitt is the only one to take as a serious contender. And, he's not even going to be at the first debate.

Oh, and I know he won't win BUT Ron Paul has always had a strong following. He wasn't allowed in the last election debates was he? Yet, he might as well pack it in. I mean he can't win anyway.

I still say there is so much time until the next election, that someone else will become a front runner. Christie (NJ) is my guess. Not to say he'd win,but you never know.


I like DT's description...."Republican Clown show." Speaking of clown shows, I thought Trump was ruling in the ratings. And Gingrich "acted" like he was gonna run. Did he decide not to?



TIS

And so far, neither of you are doing a very good job of it.

If they are seeking your attention...they are apparently getting it.

It's just pity.

First GOP Primary debate tonight, 9PM.

Most of the bigguns won't show up. It'll be just captain charisma himself Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, former Pennsylvania Senator Rick "17 points" Santorum, Texas Congressman Ron Pau, businessman Herman Cain, and former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson.

The only good thing from this is both Paul and Johnson are pro-pot law reform.

They have my attention. So did Rodney Dangerfield and Don Rickles.