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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa
[Re: Mussolini14]
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05/17/11 06:29 PM
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As mentioned upthread, in the book "The Boardwalk Jungle" by Ovid DeMaris, the author speculates that the flattering 1984 WSJ article about Salvie Testa, which called him the "heir to the top job in the Philadelphia Mafia", said that "Testa was on the brink of controlling the city's Mafia" and "has consolidated his power, bringing many friends into the Mob" would not have pleased the preening and paranoid Scarfo.
In the book "The Plumber" by Joseph Salerno and Stephen Rivele, the WSJ article is also mentioned as a source of friction, along with the claim that shortly after the broken engagement, the Family bigshots met at a restaurant and got into a heated argument which ended with Scarfo throwing Testa out.
And then finally in the book "Blood and Honor" by George Anastasia, Caramandi confirms the essentially personal nature of the Testa murder, claiming that he knew as soon as he heard of Testa's spurning of Merlino's daughter that Testa was a dead man. According to Caramandi an immediate campaign of lies and shunning began to be directed at Testa. The author also believed that Scarfo didn't take much convincing by Merlino to agree to Testa's elimination as he may feared to have Testa and Merlino too close.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungleāas old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa
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no way i saw recent pics of her on the real deal forum she is still hot!!!!! Can you post a pic of her? And will someone please ANSWER MY ORIGINAL QUESTION ABOUT THE HOG TIE? Thank you for your time.
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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa
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Why do you suppose they made it invite only? I know why. I know the real reason. PM me if you wanna hear it. I'll give you a hint
"What is given, can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies." - Casey Anthony, in a poem, July 7, 2008
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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa
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05/18/11 04:57 PM
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Joey wife and sisters did both look good at one time. They have that exotic look. Havent seen them or a recent picture though. But I believe Deborah isn't Italian. I always heard she was Philipino or something like that. Her maiden name is Wells I believe. But 10 years ago she was nice! I think she is half Korean or Japanese, Philipino women are usually like 4ft tall, so I doubt she is that.
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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa
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Joey with a girl like that? Meet the real life Chris and Adriana. I've seen pictures of her, but have no access to the real deal. Why do you suppose they made it invite only?
Mussolini, all I can tell you is a story about Jimmy Burke. Jimmy Burke hogtied a man who stole money from him in an attempt to torture the thief. Jimmy got bored and confused, and just ended up shooting him. However, I seriously doubt that was the case here. It must have been disrespect. That's what I thought becaue him and his father Phil were known to wear the cowboy hats so I always thought the reason they hog tied his body was in order to mock him and his cowboy style.
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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa
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05/22/11 01:39 AM
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Joey with a girl like that? Meet the real life Chris and Adriana. I've seen pictures of her, but have no access to the real deal. Why do you suppose they made it invite only? It's not invite only. You can request membership by sending an email to David, the administrator. Sorry for going off topic. How can I find David? It's a well known fact that Testa was widely respected, and a couple informants in their own subtle ways mourned his death. What was the deciding factor that won everyone's respect?
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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa
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Scarfo liked to hogtie victims, he called it cowboy style.
maybe that is why they did it to salvator Testa.
Last edited by don illuminati; 07/07/14 08:51 AM.
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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa
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07/08/14 05:41 AM
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Mussolini, the informant Nick Caramandi was my source. Not sure if he belonged to Salvie's crew officially, but Caramandi was taking orders from him. He implied that Salvie took loyalty to LCN to the extreme - when the Riccobene faction in a technical sense, disobeyed the family, he planned to tear them to shreds. When Enrico Riccobene (an innocent) killed himself once he heard Salvie had been looking for, he loved it. The way I see it, Salvie was absolutely about following the rules and destroying anyone who didn't. This Caramandi quote can tell you the rest. Salvie had nerve and he didn't care who he killed. Sometimes we used to go [on a contract] and we'd come back and tell him, "Well, the kids were in the car, the family's in the car.' "I don't care whose in the car', he'd say. 'Everybody goes.' That's the kind of guy he was. One Thanksgiving Day he wanted use to go into Sonny [Mario] Riccobene's house where Robert Riccobene was havin' dinner with his family. 'Shoot everybody in the house'. But he and Charlie [Iannece]] and Faffy [Francis Ianarella] made up some story that he didn't show up. Just to appease Salvie. 'Cause we didn't go for killing kids. It was something we drew a line with, but he (Testa) was just so full of venom that he didn't care. He was a guy made for 'this thing.' He loved it. He lived it. i honestly can say that imo i think that caramandi maybe the most reliable snitch that the mob ever turned out. he just seems so real in interviews and dosen't seem fame seeking like sooo many others. I agree with this. He is brutally honest and doesn't sugar coat anything or make the mob seem appealing or intriguing. He was a low life con artist but he doesn't try to rewrite history like most rats. Blood and Honor is one of the best mob books and definitely the best Philly book. I got it on nook for like $6 and downloaded it instantly BTW
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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa
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Once Salvie knew that Scarfo and Merlino wanted him dead, WHY didn't he at least go and try to see if Big Paul could save his life? Paul still was the recognized boss of bosses in 83-84.
I know that a boss should have the right to eliminate whoever they want in their family BUT, when Mr. Miggs was boss and wanted to eliminate Angelo Bruno, Bruno went to Carlo and VOILA, life saved! Even though Bruno was only a capo at the time, his case was heard and Salvie definitely had a good reason to not get whacked.
In a perfect world, Big Paul could have said, "Nicky, go to florida, you are retired! and Salvie, you are now the boss!....lol. I know that would have been a long shot but, wasn't it the Gambino's that appointed his dad?
It couldn't have hurt to try.
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