Lol ...@ FLAMINGOS COMMENT Staino looks like he spends nights putting together model ships in a glass bottle what a dork..uses his bloodlines to have any influence if any. The video on Fox with staino giving bent finger lou a kiss on the cheek in front of ligambis house is sooo GAY...THOSE 2 R MADE FOR EACH OTHER

I WALKED BY GAVONES THE OTHER DAY WITH MY BUDDY AND WE WERE LAUGHING HOW MUCH MONEY WAS WASTED N HOW STUIPID THE WHOLE CONCEPT WAS ...LMAO

New story by George Anastasia in today's paper. Uncle Joe wants out!

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110628_Ligambi_to_seek_release_on_bail_at_hearing.html

Joe Ligambi wants out.
Jailed since his arrest on May 23, the reputed mob boss will be in court Wednesday to argue that a federal magistrate judge erred when he denied him bail on racketeering-gambling charges last month.

Ligambi, 71, is the lead defendant in a 50-count indictment built around charges of gambling, extortion, and loan-sharking.

The alleged Mafia don, who traditionally spends long weekends at the Jersey Shore in the summer, instead faces the prospect of life in a 6-by-10-foot cell in the Federal Detention Center at Seventh and Arch Streets, pending a trial that is at least a year away.

In arguing for bail, lawyer Edwin Jacobs Jr. said in a motion filed in U.S. District Court that federal prosecutors and Judge Timothy R. Rice had given more weight to Ligambi's criminal record than was warranted.

Jacobs also argued that Ligambi's "alleged membership in the Mafia is . . . not sufficient to justify his pretrial detention."

Unlike previous mob racketeering cases, the charges against Ligambi and 12 codefendants do not involve murder, attempted murder, or other acts of violence.

Jacobs, one of the top criminal defense attorneys in New Jersey, has described the indictment against his client as "racketeering lite."

Prosecutors contend that Ligambi has headed the Philadelphia crime family for at least the last decade, and has used threats of violence and intimidation to run his organization. In arguing that Ligambi should be denied bail, they have cited both his criminal history and his role as a crime-family boss to justify incarceration.

In his motion, Jacobs has asked Judge Eduardo C. Robreno, the trial judge, to review the no-bail order.

Ligambi, Jacobs pointed out, has a 1988 gambling conviction built around a mob sports-betting operation and a 1971 conviction for selling untaxed cigarettes.

Described by federal investigators as a hitman for mob boss Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo, Ligambi was convicted with Scarfo and several others of the murder of Frank "Frankie Flowers" D'Alfonso in 1987 and sentenced to life.

But that conviction, Jacobs pointed out, was overturned on appeal and Ligambi was found not guilty at a retrial. He was released from prison in 1997.

Scarfo and the other defendants in that case were also acquitted, but they were serving lengthy prison terms on racketeering charges and remained in jail.

While prosecutors want to paint a picture of Ligambi as a major mob figure, Jacobs argued that his clilent "is virtually a first offender: His only serious conviction was on charges of gambling and resulted in a 31/2-year sentence over two decades ago."

Jacobs noted that Rice, in granting bail and house arrest for codefendant Anthony Staino, cited Staino's lack of a criminal record as a primary reason for allowing him to be free pending trial.

Federal prosecutors, who are expected to oppose Ligambi's attempt to get bail at Wednesday's hearing, may be forced to offer more details about the pending case to bolster their argument that Ligambi is a threat to the community.

Seven of the 13 defendants in the case - Ligambi, reputed mob underboss Joseph "Mousie" Massimino, alleged mobsters Gaeton Lucibello, Damion Canalicio, Martin Angelina, and George Borgesi, and reputed mob associate Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello - have been ordered held without bail.

You gotta be kidding me.. So you expect them to let the MOB BOSS, the lead defendant, out on bail?? I cant see how they could..

Me either...and...They won't!

I doubt very much they will. He's got a tough judge also. And even if they did let him out, he's probably gonna have to stay inside at all times. I don't even see him getting permission to mow the lawn. These house arrest conditions are becoming worse than being in the hole. If I was this guy, I'd write a letter to the judge and politely ask to be sent to Supermax in Colorado. Say you're writing a book about the penal system. Use reverse psychology.

He better not get out. I got his house, I have his Shore house now until Labor Day.

wow u guys know alot about this where you guys from ? do you hang at the same places ? do you know them ?

I have to say Margate feels alot safer with Uncle Joe behind bars. lol

I think he should be released its just ganmbling and loansharking and the RICO stature no real violence no violent priors no previous breaches of bail he should be released.

Mousie was the only one that got his hands dirty, despite going in and out of jail. I mean yeah he likes to beat on his girlfriend in public at Quattro. I beat him at pool once the guys an asshole, he can beat his dick all summer with bent dick lou licking his asshole.

Vinny G get rid of that ralph ciparetto picture that guys a cocksucker just like bentdick Lou. Joe is a nice guy, he looks like a jew ( DUSTIN HOFFMAN) thats what we use to tell him, he laughed it off

When George Anastasia pointed out the mob was making money hand over fist on the poker machines and whatever else,i agree but the problem is just the guys at the top are living large.Ligambi,Staino,and a few others but if you remember at Staino's wedding a lot of the younger guys were bitching they were broke.Ligambi blew it off like they got to pay their dues,you no that old routine but the truth of the matter is a lot of these guys are always broke.I think Ligambi is a little too old school for some of these guys.

It's funny you bring that up. I was seriously thinking about retiring that picture, but your reply made me realize that it's probably a bad idea. You almost hurt my feelings though. I see myself in Ralph.

. When u say youngr guys which guys were your refering to ??

Hey the barber just saw your post.Basically instead of saying younger lets just say the guys lower in rank.Or even to put it better, guys other than Ligambi,Staino,Massimino,probably Lucibello.These guys I mentioned all seem like greedy guys and don't want to share much.You know how everthing gets kicked towards the top.

Awwwww...Uncle Joe denied bail

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20110629_Elderly_mob_boss_held_without_bail.html

Fucking pricks. This man has a wife and kids. Give him a break!

He's gotta wife, kids and a lawn that needs to be mowed. Nobody mows it better than Uncle Joe..NOBODY!!!!

Not to mention all of 'Uncle Joe`s" "Nephews" I guess he`ll have to send in Uncle Buck to babysit his family and crimefamily.

The apparently still do when it comes to the standard mob rackets of gambling and loansharking.

No they dont. Most people go to Credit Unions in south jersey to get loans, not mobsters. And People in South Jersey no longer wager on sports cause that is an illegal activity.

I'm not saying everyone who needs a loan goes to the mob. That wasn't even the case years ago. But there is still mob-related loansharking going on in South Jersey. And it's precisely because sports betting is an illegal activity that the people who bet on sports use mob bookmakers. Remember the cases we were talking about before with Massamino, Lancellotti, etc.?

I know you have an Ivy League education, but South Jersey is so big and spread out, they dont control nothing. They dont even control the corner of 10th and Wolf anymore.By the way that movie was horrible.

For the record, I don't have an Ivy League education. The handle I use here is from the nickname the feds gave to the Genovese family.

Also, considering the fact that basically all the sports betting and loansharking cases in South Jersey over the past decade have involved the mob, I'd say they still generally control those two businesses. Those are the 2 basic rackets that any LCN family better hang onto or they're probably already on the way out.

How do you know what was said at Staino's wedding? Can you post a link?

I had a dream about Uncle Joe last night. He's not happy with Mazzone. Not happy at all.

I guess I'm not the only one who had a dream about a well known mobster.

Mussolini... There was no names given or what comments were said. It was reported on a mob talk. Staino got married in September. But Anastasia reported it was members of Merlino's crew.

Flamingo...mob has just as much activity in sj now as it did when bruno was around if not more ...there's credit unions in south philly to. Philly is also big n they don't control every racket here to. But there's certain places were sports gambling s heavily controlled by the mob

SP... Lets agree to disagree.

I hope everybody has a safe holiday weekend.