i saw somewhere it was listed as the philadelphia crime family a cuban guy named eloy posada pasada something like that was made a soldier is this true? I knew that John veasey was made but only italian on his mothers side and was made and henry hill wasnn't

thats because for a while philly had idiots as bosses who made non Italians.

Which bosses? would you say

stanfa made veasey who had an italian mother but his last name wasnt italian veasey tho it may have sounded italian with the vowel placements n all. was his non-italian fathers last name unmakeable by LCN standards. Then there was Fernandez i dont know if he was made of lot

Gambino Captain Andre Campos mother is Italian and father is Purto Rican. He now goes by Andre Campo.

good find I wonder if the bosses made him change it or he did it for his personnal advancement

ONtario, Sorry it's Andrew Campos, now Andrew Campo. His mother boyfriend is/was Gambino captain, Richie Martino and he took Andrew under his wing. Andrew also played football with Puff Douchbag/Bucktooth Daddy in High School and are very close friends. Campos got out of jail last year on that massive Internet scam with Martino, Locasio and others.

that`s ok but good job for double checking now people will see you as a credible source of info

andrew campos is puerto rican on his father's side I didn't know that I thought his father was an italian but of albanian or greek origin in italy. Thanks for your information.

Tell us more does he get along with his father.

How could he have been made its kind of strange but interesting

Tell us more about it.

There's never been a "non-Italian," strictly speaking, that has been made. Even guys like John Veasey in Philadelphia or Chucky Porter in Pittsburgh were Italian on their mother's side. But examples like that are pretty rare. Usually guys are at least Italian on their father's side, thereby having an Italian last name, if not Italian on both sides.

hey what the cuban guy eloy posada

I don't think there's ever been anyone by that name made in Philadelphia.

it was named on the list before i remember seeing that it said he was a soldier but retired to florida, also there is a made guy in the decavalcante family not italian probably artie vornov

Botz are you maybe thinking about Louie Eggs Consalvo?

No but saw a name listed a made guy as artie vornov a soldier

Once again, there have been a handful of guys over the years who have been made despite not being Italian on their father's side, so they don't have an Italian last name. But even those have had some Italian blood. And they are still very much the exception to the rule.

true but what about anthony st. laurent was that his step fathers last name and took that

theres always exceptions to the rule....look at gotti jr hes not full italian. alot of the time if your a TRUEMENDOUS earner or have a blood relative this rule can be bent

Jake guzik of the oufit and ever crew has there "hesh"

It really comes down to whether any one in this day in age cares if u`ve received a 5 minute ritual in the 70`s you were the talk of the neighborhood everyone and his family knew if u`d been made now not so much very private ordeal

How about those guys who Paid to get straightened out?

In Goodfellas, when Pesci's character goes off on Billy Batts, you hear him telling Deniro that Batts is not even a tough guy and that he paid for his button. I also recall that long time Gambino Associate and Bookmaker, Lenny Minuto, wanted to pay Greg DePalma and Arnold Squitteri 1 million dollars to get straightened out. I wonder if he they ever took it.

I am to understand the ones Anastasia initiated were stripped of membership after his death.

yeah this is one of the reasons why the books were closed for almost 20 yrs. people were selling buttons.

If so, I wonder if they received a refund? In one account I read they were paying $50k, which would translate to about $400k today. It amazes me that someone would empty their life savings for the privilege of being murdered or a long prison sentence. I think there was a lot of ignorance about the true nature of the mob back then.

I doubt it would be considered emptying their life savings. The person would have to be a big earner to begin with, just to be in that position. Also, in those days, being made would open the door to many more opportunities to earn. An investment of sorts.

your exactly correct. being a crooked business man or a shop owner that could have the protection of a family, any other rackets they could pick up, and plus the social status would def be an investment back then. remember if you were with a crew it was like a license to steal. you could fuck around with anyone else that wasn't a member so that would help them rocket their original business. this is really a win win situation back then. today not so much!

stanfa in his infinite wisdom must have thought that Veasey was spelled Visi or Vese or Vesi
and Amy Whinehouse dead at 27 (I know not OC)

ha good one ontario lets not forget frank martines. hahaha

The Underboss in Boston was a guy name Frank Salemi, he was half Irish.....