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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: CHRISTOPHER] #412602
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 Originally Posted By: CHRISTOPHER


tony montana wouldn't end up like that, and im pretty sure he wouldn't like rap...


What about Gandolfini?



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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: CHRISTOPHER] #412610
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 Originally Posted By: CHRISTOPHER
yes, it most certainly did, would tony montana want him to look like a pimp? or a rapper? no! hes a tough guy, three words MONEY, POWER, RESPECT? well im pretty sure rappers dont have power, or respect, i mean look at biggie smallz or tupac, they are dead...tony montana wouldn't end up like that, and im pretty sure he wouldn't like rap...


What about P diddy, hes got money, power and respect in the music and other industries and hes a rapper.

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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: whisper] #412768
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yes but not over drug dealing...over battling in there songs. tony montana wasnt a rapper!

Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: CHRISTOPHER] #412791
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 Originally Posted By: CHRISTOPHER
yes but not over drug dealing...


Many, not all of these rappers originally made their money dealing drugs. That is how many of them made the quick money and were able to become overnight producers of their own songs and music.



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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: Don Cardi] #412893
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Wasnt the rap industry also one of the best paid music industry, Definitly Death row records.

Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: Zaf-the-don] #413007
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Deathrow record was hugely successful.Not to mention they employed gangbangers as body guards.


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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: Zaf-the-don] #417884
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I doesn't matter what the rappers think about it. Scarface is what it is. I think people can complain about just anything nowadays, and make it seem so important. Rap is a form of music, and music is art. So is film. And art is a matter of personal preferance, so if you like Scarface and don't like rap, then fine. But jeez, enough griping about it already, it just sucks the fun out of it. Anyhoo, that's how I feel about it.

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But you can't deny that rappers have really suined the status of SCARFACE!


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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: whisper] #419165
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No offence to the rap fans I don't like it but they think because theyve been shot at a few times they ARE the Scar Face. I want them to take what he took then try to say they rock. Not to mention they kind of ruined all my rides. I ride to the sop to any where and I here that shit. Old rock rock even contrey is good but rap. They even messed it up by making a song in rap by a rapper called "This is why I rock" Well thats why he sucks.

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I ment they not he

Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: Tony_Montana626] #438697
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I don't think rappers ruined the status of Scarface. I don't like rap at all, either. It just makes me sick that all the rappers think that Scarface is part of this trend called "gangsta." To me, it's not. Scarface is about a Cuban gangster! Not a crip or a blood, or whatever! Why do they think that, anyway? And people won't say that rappers were just "influenced" by Scarface, they'll say it is "gansgta!" And that's what sickened me! I really like the director, Brian De Palma, because of this: "When the film was re-released in theaters in 2003, the studio wanted Brian De Palma to change the soundtrack so that rap songs inspired by the movie could be used. De Palma refused." Check it out at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086250/trivia




Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: manicmontana] #445669
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In a Jay-z song from 96, he has a line
"Had to turn away when tony killed manolo"
i felt that line, cause i knew exactly what feeling he was expressing.
papoose also has a line where he says
"your tony montana? Then im the dude with the black shades and the hammer"
So im for it, i love hearing it as long as they use it right

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Fuck rap

Real hiphop all the way....


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 Originally Posted By: whisper the don from down under
Fuck rap

Real hiphop all the way....


Your opinion, your likes, your taste. Doesn't mean that because someone else dislikes Hip Hop and likes rap that they are wrong. ;\)



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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: getthesenets] #577577
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Have any of you ever listened to any songs by Brad Jordan aka Mr. Scarface?

Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: Don Cardi] #587283
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Really!?!?!........them are some very strong and bias words, so in your opinion I made my fortune selling drugs and committing crimes, tsk, tsk.......I love the Scarface movie as well, i've never compared myself to or tried to be like Tony Montana, I can say I also speak for many Hip Hop Artists who didn't commit crimes or sell drugs to be successful when I say......."i believe this drug business will deystroy us..........."


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just leave your opinions about music on the "top 40" website..... They are very unfair and close minded.....thank you


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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: manicmontana] #592412
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It's because our "street legends" are guys that are like Tony Montana, such as Nicky Barnes, Carter Brothers, Freeway Ross, Frank Lucas...they made their money from drug money coming form nothing and being ruthless to get to the stop...that why "Scarface" resonates with them. No question, some rappers haven't lived that life, but they take artistic license creating a false aura ....some rappers have actually lived the life...and no Scarface isn't ruined...let me put this analogy :

Made guys were quoting from "The Godfather" verbatim after it came out and love it, same with "Scarface" with street gangsters...if anything, Scarface is a really iconic film within the hip hop community....


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How the hell are rappers gonna ruin the status of Scarface. I don't care if it was the favorite movie of most pedophiles. I will always love that movie.


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I have to agree with VinnyGorgeous on this heated debate. This movie is, and will always be, in my heart. Nobody is going to tarnish the memory of this wonderful movie.

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yeah no matter who likes it or who is influenced by it its still a great movie


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Scarface is the best movie of all times. period


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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: manicmontana] #607715
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Why youse being so nosy?
The funny thing is hispanic guys, especially Colombians, don't like blacks even though the country has a sizeable black population. Makes me laugh everytime I see a "g" take up the name Escobar.

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I know lots of black people who felt the same way about English people or other whites singing the blues or Bo Derek wearing braids. lol

Ultimately once art is out there it belongs to anyone who has interest in it. One's enjoyment of a movie should not be diminished by the fact that other people enjoy it.

People have always mixed ,matched and adapted art and culture to their own needs and interests. It's not taking money out of anyone's pocket here if Scarface is popular with a variety of people.


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Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
Originally Posted By: CHRISTOPHER
yes but not over drug dealing...


Many, not all of these rappers originally made their money dealing drugs. That is how many of them made the quick money and were able to become overnight producers of their own songs and music.


Not sure if petty drug dealing in thier earlier lives really helped them become successful multi-millionaire rap artists.

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"Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface"

That`s like saying has Tony Montana ruined the status of Al Capone It`s a case of art imitates life imitates art imitates art again

art( original scarface movie)imitates life (Capone was subject of original scarface) imitates art ( DEPALMAS CUBAN VERSION LOOSELY BASED ON ITS PREDECessor imitates art again( rappers using tony montana name and image)

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Rappers are not very well-read or cultured individuals. Colombians, despite having a large afro population, do not like African-Americans generally. So when an aa male uses the name Escobar, scarface, and embraces the latin-america cocaine culture, it makes him look very dumb.

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Originally Posted By: Palomita20
Rappers are not very well-read or cultured individuals. Colombians, despite having a large afro population, do not like African-Americans generally. So when an aa male uses the name Escobar, scarface, and embraces the latin-america cocaine culture, it makes him look very dumb.


erm...are you serious?!

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