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Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: NickyScarfo] #612041
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You guys are forgetting somebody...

Al Capone

The man was ruthless

No matter what the FBI or anybody else says about how many people a guy killed nobody knows for sure.

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Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: NickyScarfo] #612052
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Back in the 1930's, the Brooklyn DA believed Murder Inc. to be responsible for about 1000 deaths, coast to coast. Others put the estimate between 400 to 700.

Abe Reles was able to recount about 80 plus murders. You had members like Pittsburgh Phil, "Happy" Maione and "Blue Jaw" Magoon etc. who were responsible for quite a few murders. They were not members of Cosa Nostra, but were every bit as ruthless. Personally I believe the Roy Demeo crew was meant to emulate the Murder Inc. gang.

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Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body co [Re: ht2] #612173
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Originally Posted By: ht2
Back in the 1930's, the Brooklyn DA believed Murder Inc. to be responsible for about 1000 deaths, coast to coast. Others put the estimate between 400 to 700.

Abe Reles was able to recount about 80 plus murders. You had members like Pittsburgh Phil, "Happy" Maione and "Blue Jaw" Magoon etc. who were responsible for quite a few murders. They were not members of Cosa Nostra, but were every bit as ruthless. Personally I believe the Roy Demeo crew was meant to emulate the Murder Inc. gang.


Yeah I'm with you man, I really think there's a good chance it could be a Murder Inc guy, possibly one of the Jewish hit guys. It doesn't have to be an Italian...

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body co [Re: NickyScarfo] #612224
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Certainly the mobster who killed more people is Giovanni Brusca, here is his testimony:
''I killed Giovanni Falcone. But it was not the first time I had already used the car bomb to kill the judge Rocco Chinnici, and the men of his escort. They are responsible for the kidnapping and death of the young Giuseppe Di Matteo, who was thirteen years old when he was kidnapped and fifteen when he was murdered. I personally ordered and committed murders over 150 . Even today I can not remember them all, one by one, the names of those I killed. Many more than a hundred, certainly less than two hundred. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Brusca

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body co [Re: NickyScarfo] #612233
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Lo Scannacristiani (spl?) they called the guy, "the killer of christians". He definitely had a lot of hits notched up, and some real messed up ones, too.
Creepy, pudgy and arrested with spaghetti stains on his face and shirt before he flipped, that was the pig that murdered Giovanni Falcone (r.i.p)

He's gotta be up there in terms of number, eh Furio? I think Nicky was talking about mobsters that operated in the US though. Still, I said Escobar, and I reckon Brusca had more hits to his name then him.


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Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body co [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #612271
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Frank Calabrese from the Chicago Outfit seems to have been a guy who killed a good deal of people, often in a very brutal manner. I watched "I Married a Mobster" last weekend, the one about Greg Scarpa, he supposedly killed a cab driver who tried to rape his daughter. Scarpa's daughter is still pretty hot, I was shocked to find out she is 42, and has four kids!

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body co [Re: NickyScarfo] #612285
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You're right Gerry. Im re-reading "Family Secrets" and between Frank and his brother Nick there's a fair few bodies. Some of those Outfit guys could fill a cemetery by themselves, to steal a quote from Sicilian boss Matteo Messina Dennaro.


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Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body co [Re: furio_from_naples] #612359
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Certainly the mobster who killed more people is Giovanni Brusca, here is his testimony:
''I killed Giovanni Falcone. But it was not the first time I had already used the car bomb to kill the judge Rocco Chinnici, and the men of his escort. They are responsible for the kidnapping and death of the young Giuseppe Di Matteo, who was thirteen years old when he was kidnapped and fifteen when he was murdered. I personally ordered and committed murders over 150 . Even today I can not remember them all, one by one, the names of those I killed. Many more than a hundred, certainly less than two hundred. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Brusca


This guy makes Roy DeMeo seem like choirboy. Tortured a 13 year old and killed him, than put him in acid? Hard to believe the Italian police agreed to use him as a cooperator. I think the us would even allow this.

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body co [Re: Palomita20] #612369
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Originally Posted By: Palomita20
Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Certainly the mobster who killed more people is Giovanni Brusca, here is his testimony:
''I killed Giovanni Falcone. But it was not the first time I had already used the car bomb to kill the judge Rocco Chinnici, and the men of his escort. They are responsible for the kidnapping and death of the young Giuseppe Di Matteo, who was thirteen years old when he was kidnapped and fifteen when he was murdered. I personally ordered and committed murders over 150 . Even today I can not remember them all, one by one, the names of those I killed. Many more than a hundred, certainly less than two hundred. "

Agreed. It's incredibly amoral in itself. But when you think of the lives that could be saved with the testimony of someone high ranking within the Sicilian Mafia, which has its hooks in the government itself - you have to make a deal with the devil. The honest authorities in Italy are heroes. And nobody would blame them if they somehow screwed Brusca over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Brusca


This guy makes Roy DeMeo seem like choirboy. Tortured a 13 year old and killed him, than put him in acid? Hard to believe the Italian police agreed to use him as a cooperator. I think the us would even allow this.

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EDIT: I don't know what happened. I had a very detailed response written and it double-posted and the response wasn't there, just the quote.

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Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body co [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #612371
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Originally Posted By: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica
You're right Gerry. Im re-reading "Family Secrets" and between Frank and his brother Nick there's a fair few bodies. Some of those Outfit guys could fill a cemetery by themselves, to steal a quote from Sicilian boss Matteo Messina Dennaro.


Yep, the Calabrese brothers are some vicious dudes. Not only were they stone cold killers, they were also brutal in the way they killed. Frank Calabrese liked to strangle his victims, then slit their throat from ear to ear, while most mafia guys like to just use the gun.

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: yankeeefan] #653177
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Originally Posted By: yankeeefan
Mobsters in sicily have body counts like 50-100


yeah i think it would be one of riinas hitmen like brusca or greco in the us i would say either anastasia or pitera.

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: jvanley] #653178
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Originally Posted By: jvanley
Oh wait, I forgot Richard " I flew the plane that dropped the first Abomb, Jimmy Hoffa, President Kennedy, took out Nancy Kerrigans knee, bombed the federal building in OKC and flew two planes at once on 9-11 from behind federal prison walls" kuklinski.


how could we forget about that liar?


lol

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: Camarel] #653179
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Originally Posted By: Camarel
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Mobsters in sicily have body counts like 50-100


yeah i think it would be one of riinas hitmen like brusca or greco in the us i would say either anastasia or pitera.


Roy DeMeo did far more than Pitera ever did.

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: NickyScarfo] #653182
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Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
Originally Posted By: Camarel
Originally Posted By: yankeeefan
Mobsters in sicily have body counts like 50-100


yeah i think it would be one of riinas hitmen like brusca or greco in the us i would say either anastasia or pitera.


Roy DeMeo did far more than Pitera ever did.


personally?

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: NickyScarfo] #653183
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Yeah I think an FBI made an estimate of 40-50 personally for DeMeo on a docu I saw, that crew itself were probably the most murderous of any family.

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: NickyScarfo] #653186
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Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
Yeah I think an FBI made an estimate of 40-50 personally for DeMeo on a docu I saw, that crew itself were probably the most murderous of any family.


thanks for the innfo. u think the gemini twins killed more than demeo

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: NickyScarfo] #653187
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who is that in your pic?

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: NickyScarfo] #653190
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That is boxer Miguel Cotto. Maybe combined they did kill more, I know Henry Borelli was often the shooter in their murders.

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: NickyScarfo] #653211
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Fantastic job on the DeMeo list... great research!

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: IvyLeague] #653223
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Demeo probably has the highest count. Between the drug trafficking, auto theft ring, contract killing, personal beefs and work for the family there was plenty of possible targets and victims.

Re: Which Mobster has the Highest Personal body count? [Re: NickyScarfo] #653239
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Frank Sheeran is probably the guy with the highest body count, if you're counting the guys he killed in the war in addition to his hits. In a particular instance he claims he did 3 sepparate hits in the span of a day. He said in his book he flew to Puerto Rico and 'did what he had to do' on two separate matters, then flew back to Chicago and did another one. A busy man.lol

A few guys who haven't been mentioned:
-Lefty Ruggiero(27)
-Gerard Pappa(37)
-Mickey Featherstone
-Stevie Flemmi
-Johnny Martorano

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How many did Mickey have? Forgot about him...

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Originally Posted By: Tyler_Durden
Frank Sheeran is probably the guy with the highest body count, if you're counting the guys he killed in the war in addition to his hits. In a particular instance he claims he did 3 sepparate hits in the span of a day. He said in his book he flew to Puerto Rico and 'did what he had to do' on two separate matters, then flew back to Chicago and did another one. A busy man.lol

A few guys who haven't been mentioned:
-Lefty Ruggiero(27)
-Gerard Pappa(37)
-Mickey Featherstone
-Stevie Flemmi
-Johnny Martorano


Just my opinion, but I question the veracity of Sheeran's claims.


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i read in a old artticle christie tic was given photo's of the gallos frpm joe profaci to kill them 1 by 1. he went on to have gas pip and lil vic in his crew thats alot of killing. its strange he did 10yrs in prison for rape and still got made and was in high estem with joe profaci weird.

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DeMeo's crew was demented, but Brusca made them look like the salvation army.

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Harry Aleman had 13, I believe, that are known.

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Originally Posted By: WTFMaNg
You guys are forgetting somebody...

Al Capone

The man was ruthless

No matter what the FBI or anybody else says about how many people a guy killed nobody knows for sure.



Capone and Moran together may have biggest body count of any mob was in United States history.

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