If that's the case, I imagine each crew only has a handful of made guys. Which wouldn't necessarily surprise me at this point since several recent busts have included a couple made members and a bunch of associates. The thing is, on different charts we have the names of guys who have been captains. And some of them may still be. But the exact hierarchical structure is becoming harder to pin down in the smaller families that remain outside NY, including the Patriarcas.